Upsets!

[Vowelguy]

Ok, yes, the committee can move teams for valid reasons (nefariously stated) up one or down 1 line. Last year, UConn NET was #2 overall but with their record of 31-6, they were moved to one of the 4 number 2 seeds into Seattle. So, in theory, NET had them at #1 seed but the committee moved them to a number 2 seed. Whether that was from #2 to 6 or 7, I do not know but they were moved at least 4 slots on the S curve.

Oy ve.
How many times does it need to be said:

THE NET DOES NOT DETERMINE SEEDINGS.

It is one piece of information that is used by the committee. It is not the only piece.

Look at the preliminary top 16 seeds the committee release in February. Have they ever been 100% match with the NET?
(Spoiler alert: No)

 

[Vowelguy]

But I will say that I'm still salty at that Green/Yellow school

You have a problem with Norfolk St? =)

 

[nwhoopfan]

Hey hey... let's stay on topic...


But I will say that I'm still salty at that Green/Yellow school AND Temple.

I appreciate that your saltiness has no time limits.

I hardly pay any attention to men's hoops anymore, but there are a couple Tourney games from the mid 2000s that I'm not over yet, and probably never will be. Both were epic collapses by the team I was rooting for. Both had lopsided officiating that aided in said collapses. Maybe I don't hate the other team any more at this point, but I kinda feel like those 2 games broke me to some degree, at least in terms of viewing sporting events (I know, not really that important in the grand scheme of things).

 

[triaddukefan]

So is UCLA beating Colorado in Boulder an upset??

I appreciate that your saltiness has no time limits.

I hardly pay any attention to men's hoops anymore, but there are a couple Tourney games from the mid 2000s that I'm not over yet, and probably never will be. Both were epic collapses by the team I was rooting for. Both had lopsided officiating that aided in said collapses. Maybe I don't hate the other team any more at this point, but I kinda feel like those 2 games broke me to some degree, at least in terms of viewing sporting events (I know, not really that important in the grand scheme of things).

I've never forgiven Purdue for knocking out Duke in the 1980 regional final. I was in second grade, mad at the world.

 

[nwhoopfan]

So is UCLA beating Colorado in Boulder an upset??




I've never forgiven Purdue for knocking out Duke in the 1980 regional final. I was in second grade, mad at the world.

I'm trying to picture that. Got a meme for it?

 

[nwhoopfan]

Oh on the other part I guess yeah? At least slight upset because it was on the road.

 

[triaddukefan]

I'm trying to picture that. Got a meme for it?

A close approximation

 

[maple]

So is UCLA beating Colorado in Boulder an upset??

I personally consider it one.

 

[TheFarmFan]

So is UCLA beating Colorado in Boulder an upset??

Not according to Vegas. I think the spread was UCLA -2.5.

 

[Vowelguy]

Not according to Vegas. I think the spread was UCLA -2.5.

Ucla got dropped way too far last weekend. A road loss to their top-10 rival, with their best player not at 100%.

 

[triaddukefan]

@nwhoopfan A few hours ago I was out getting my weekend takeout meal, I had on my Duke Winter Jacket and a Duke toboggan. Both of my hands were full, so this guy held the door open as I left. The guy happened to be wearing a Purdue Sweatshirt with a Purdue toboggan I thanked him but I didn't bring up 1980.

Not according to Vegas. I think the spread was UCLA -2.5.

I wonder what the Massey prediction was.

 

[Plebe]

I wonder what the Massey prediction was.

Massey predicted a 1-point win for UCLA.

Both Massey and NET have Colorado outside the top 10 (at #11 and #17 respectively).

 

[Vowelguy]

@nwhoopfan A few hours ago I was out getting my weekend takeout meal, I had on my Duke Winter Jacket and a Duke toboggan. Both of my hands were full, so this guy held the door open as I left. The guy happened to be wearing a Purdue Sweatshirt with a Purdue toboggan I thanked him but I didn't bring up 1980

You’re not more upset by 1999?

 

[triaddukefan]

You’re not more upset by 1999?

That just added fuel to the fire of hate.

 

[Plebe]

I've never forgiven Purdue for knocking out Duke in the 1980 regional final. I was in second grade, mad at the world.

That just added fuel to the fire of hate.

Wait, isn't Purdue a land-grant school? I'm very confused

 

[nwhoopfan]

Does 8-9 overall and 4-5 in conference Oakland handing Green Bay their first loss in the Horizon count as an upset? GB is 15-4/8-1.

 

[triaddukefan]

Wait, isn't Purdue a land-grant school? I'm very confused

Yeah... I think I stated a few years ago that there are a few Land Grants I refuse to root for... Purdue and Michigan State top the list.

 

[BRS24]

@nwhoopfan A few hours ago I was out getting my weekend takeout meal, I had on my Duke Winter Jacket and a Duke toboggan. Both of my hands were full, so this guy held the door open as I left. The guy happened to be wearing a Purdue Sweatshirt with a Purdue toboggan I thanked him but I didn't bring up 1980.

Awesome that there's someone else that uses the term toboggan. Many years ago, in Jamaica, we met a couple from AL, and in addition to explaining the importance of Auburn/Alabama, they taught me what a toboggan was and sent me an AU one for xmas.

 

[triaddukefan]

Awesome that there's someone else that uses the term toboggan. Many years ago, in Jamaica, we met a couple from AL, and in addition to explaining the importance of Auburn/Alabama, they taught me what a toboggan was and sent me an AU one for xmas.

What do other people call them? Hats?

 

[visitingcock]

What do other people call them? Hats?

Skull caps?

Yeah both Carolinas call them to afghans.

 

[LoTrader]

New Mexico 69-66 over UNLV @ UNLV

 

[nwhoopfan]

New Mexico 69-66 over UNLV @ UNLV

First conference loss for the Rebs.

 

[LETTERL]

First conference loss for the Rebs.

Opens a Top 25 spot for Oregon State, Miami, Duke, Syracuse and a host of others just bubbling under the Top 25 in the last polls.

 

[Plebe]

Opens a Top 25 spot for Oregon State, Miami, Duke, Syracuse and a host of others just bubbling under the Top 25 in the last polls.

Oregon State, probably yes.
Syracuse, maybe.

Duke and Miami, no way with all the bad teams they've lost to. Nice attempt of shameless promotion of ACC teams but not gonna happen. Might as well advocate for Clemson and Boston College to be top 25 for beating Duke and Miami.

North Carolina can stay in the top 25 but I'd consider dropping Virginia Tech.

 

[TheFarmFan]

Oregon State, probably yes.
Syracuse, maybe.

Duke and Miami, no way with all the bad teams they've lost to. Nice attempt of shameless promotion of ACC teams but not gonna happen. Might as well advocate for Clemson and Boston College to be top 25 for beating Duke and Miami.

FWIW, Duke is a top 25 team by every statistical measure: 22nd in NET, 17th in RPI, and 24th by Massey. They are 2-3 in Quad 1 and 6-2 in Quad 2. If you poke around the other teams in the 25-30 range, there aren't a lot that have many marquee wins, and a number with some head scratching losses.

(and no, this message wasn't paid for by @triaddukefan )