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Oh on the other part I guess yeah? At least slight upset because it was on the road.
 
nwhoopfan said:
I'm trying to picture that. Got a meme for it?
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A close approximation

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@nwhoopfan A few hours ago I was out getting my weekend takeout meal, I had on my Duke Winter Jacket and a Duke toboggan. Both of my hands were full, so this guy held the door open as I left. The guy happened to be wearing a Purdue Sweatshirt with a Purdue toboggan :eek::confused: I thanked him but I didn't bring up 1980.





TheFarmFan said:
Not according to Vegas. I think the spread was UCLA -2.5.
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I wonder what the Massey prediction was.
 
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triaddukefan said:
@nwhoopfan A few hours ago I was out getting my weekend takeout meal, I had on my Duke Winter Jacket and a Duke toboggan. Both of my hands were full, so this guy held the door open as I left. The guy happened to be wearing a Purdue Sweatshirt with a Purdue toboggan :eek::confused: I thanked him but I didn't bring up 1980
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You’re not more upset by 1999?
 
Does 8-9 overall and 4-5 in conference Oakland handing Green Bay their first loss in the Horizon count as an upset? GB is 15-4/8-1.
 
Plebe said:
Wait, isn't Purdue a land-grant school? I'm very confused :rolleyes:
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Yeah... I think I stated a few years ago that there are a few Land Grants I refuse to root for... Purdue and Michigan State top the list. :mad:
 
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triaddukefan said:
@nwhoopfan A few hours ago I was out getting my weekend takeout meal, I had on my Duke Winter Jacket and a Duke toboggan. Both of my hands were full, so this guy held the door open as I left. The guy happened to be wearing a Purdue Sweatshirt with a Purdue toboggan :eek::confused: I thanked him but I didn't bring up 1980.
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Awesome that there's someone else that uses the term toboggan. Many years ago, in Jamaica, we met a couple from AL, and in addition to explaining the importance of Auburn/Alabama, they taught me what a toboggan was and sent me an AU one for xmas.
 
BRS24 said:
Awesome that there's someone else that uses the term toboggan. Many years ago, in Jamaica, we met a couple from AL, and in addition to explaining the importance of Auburn/Alabama, they taught me what a toboggan was and sent me an AU one for xmas.
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:confused: What do other people call them? Hats?
 
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LETTERL said:
Opens a Top 25 spot for Oregon State, Miami, Duke, Syracuse and a host of others just bubbling under the Top 25 in the last polls.
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Oregon State, probably yes.
Syracuse, maybe.

Duke and Miami, no way with all the bad teams they've lost to. Nice attempt of shameless promotion of ACC teams but not gonna happen. Might as well advocate for Clemson and Boston College to be top 25 for beating Duke and Miami.

North Carolina can stay in the top 25 but I'd consider dropping Virginia Tech.
 
Plebe said:
Oregon State, probably yes.
Syracuse, maybe.

Duke and Miami, no way with all the bad teams they've lost to. Nice attempt of shameless promotion of ACC teams but not gonna happen. Might as well advocate for Clemson and Boston College to be top 25 for beating Duke and Miami.
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FWIW, Duke is a top 25 team by every statistical measure: 22nd in NET, 17th in RPI, and 24th by Massey. They are 2-3 in Quad 1 and 6-2 in Quad 2. If you poke around the other teams in the 25-30 range, there aren't a lot that have many marquee wins, and a number with some head scratching losses.

(and no, this message wasn't paid for by @triaddukefan ;))
 
TheFarmFan said:
FWIW, Duke is a top 25 team by every statistical measure: 22nd in NET, 17th in RPI, and 24th by Massey. They are 2-3 in Quad 1 and 6-2 in Quad 2. If you poke around the other teams in the 25-30 range, there aren't a lot that have many marquee wins, and a number with some head scratching losses.

(and no, this message wasn't paid for by @triaddukefan ;))
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They also are more healthy now and have a fuller roster than in the earlier games. I don't understand all of the back-handed comments about the ACC, but not all of our teams can be in a true juggernaut like the Big East and have to face Xavier and Butler night after night.
 
TheFarmFan said:
FWIW, Duke is a top 25 team by every statistical measure: 22nd in NET, 17th in RPI, and 24th by Massey. They are 2-3 in Quad 1 and 6-2 in Quad 2. If you poke around the other teams in the 25-30 range, there aren't a lot that have many marquee wins, and a number with some head scratching losses.

(and no, this message wasn't paid for by @triaddukefan ;))
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Got blown out by Clemson, lost to Davidson, needed overtime to beat Georgia. Gonna take more than a win over overrated Virginia Tech to override those three marks in the PSI (Plebe statistical index) :D
 
LETTERL said:
They also are more healthy now and have a fuller roster than in the earlier games. I don't understand all of the back-handed comments about the ACC, but not all of our teams can be in a true juggernaut like the Big East and have to face Xavier and Butler night after night.
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I must have missed the post where someone said Xavier and Butler should enter the top 25.
 
LETTERL said:
They also are more healthy now and have a fuller roster than in the earlier games. I don't understand all of the back-handed comments about the ACC, but not all of our teams can be in a true juggernaut like the Big East and have to face Xavier and Butler night after night.
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+1. I tend to put more faith in a combination of statistics and "eye test" than mere Win/Loss, because over the years I've seen so many teams with terrible losses in November march to huge upsets in March. Was at the Stanford game where Duke took us to the brink, and I was very impressed. They are not a team that is going to beat themselves, so you're going to have to beat them. In that sense, they remind me a lot of OreSU: a little deficient in the ability to generate offense, but tidy, efficient, relentless defensive pressure, as well as a nifty ability to draw fouls. I would be extremely unhappy to be a #2 seed and face either of them in the second round as a #7 seed, so a ranking around 21-24 seems not unreasonable to me.
 
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Plebe said:
Got blown out by Clemson, lost to Davidson, needed overtime to beat Georgia. Gonna take more than a win over overrated Virginia Tech to override those three marks in the PSI (Plebe statistical index) :D
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Maybe the PSI needs a tweak to its algorithm!
 
LETTERL said:
Maybe the PSI needs a tweak to its algorithm!
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But some statistical measure needs to support the claim the Big East is anything other than UConn and the seven (nine?) ten dwarves. ;)
 
LETTERL said:
Opens a Top 25 spot for Oregon State, Miami, Duke, Syracuse and a host of others just bubbling under the Top 25 in the last polls.
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Duke didn't receive a vote in either the Coaches or AP Poll. Now if we win on Sunday, we should get a few votes... but
 
TheFarmFan said:
But some statistical measure needs to support the claim the Big East is anything other than UConn and the seven (nine?) ten dwarves. ;)
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Not sure where I've been quoted saying anything along these lines. You must have mistaken me for someone else.

But Oregon State, whom you and I both esteem, struggled greatly to beat one of those "dwarves" at home. So ...
 
triaddukefan said:
Duke didn't receive a vote in either the Coaches or AP Poll. Now if we win on Sunday, we should get a few votes... but
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Those voters unfortunately tend to orient around (1) prior poll positions and then (2) adjust for current W-L. I'd actually love it if one week they made the AP voters vote without any reference to the prior polls - I'm guessing half of them would omit 1/5th of the top 25 altogether.
 
Plebe said:
Not sure where I've been quoted saying anything along these lines. You must have mistaken me for someone else.

But Oregon State, whom you seem to esteem, struggled greatly to beat one of those "dwarves" at home. So ...
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One man's "struggled mightily" is another man's "covered the spread":

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