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Guys getting “real” nil money probably have a decent shot at sticking or making decent money overseas. There is more to it than just nil. A big thing to for marginals players is pension qualification. It serves every player good enough to start the clock asap.

Agree completely. The math was obvious before. Now it is a question. Which I think is great.
 
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I don’t see the path for Karaban in nba. Hope he stays. This incoming class could learn a lot from him.
 

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I highly doubt a shooting slump (even as bad as the one karaban has had) will have any impact on Karaban’s draft stock. I don’t think any scouts are questioning if he is a great shooter. He also shot the cover off of the ball at the combine last year.
The real thing that probably has some effect is probably his limitations around putting it on the floor/lack of athleticism and lack of development on those things.

But everyone saying he’s killed his draft stock by having a shooting slump is assuming nba scouts are idiots which they’re not.
 
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I highly doubt a shooting slump (even as bad as the one karaban has had) will have any impact on Karaban’s draft stock. I don’t think any scouts are questioning if he is a great shooter. He also shot the cover off of the ball at the combine last year.
The real thing that probably has some effect is probably his limitations around putting it on the floor/lack of athleticism and lack of development on those things.

But everyone saying he’s killed his draft stock by having a shooting slump is assuming nba scouts are idiots which they’re not.
You don't think a shooting percentage drop as a bigger focus in an offense impacts stock? It's a lot easier to shoot open threes when you're a 4-5 option in an offense. Great shooters in the NBA shoot the 3 over 40% at the NBA line. If you're coming in and your primary skills is a shooter, how you shoot when the defense is focusing on you likely matters at least a little.

The combine drill didn't have defenders, Alex is really good at shooting wide open as it gives him plenty of time to square and load.
 
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You don't think a shooting percentage drop as a bigger focus in an offense impacts stock? It's a lot easier to shoot open threes when you're a 4-5 option in an offense. Great shooters in the NBA shoot the 3 over 40% at the NBA line. If you're coming in and your primary skills is a shooter, how you shoot when the defense is focusing on you likely matters at least a little.

The combine drill didn't have defenders, Alex is really good at shooting wide open as it gives him plenty of time to square and load.
Do I think Alex will be a superstar at the next level? I don’t.
Do I think Alex has the skill set to be in a rotation? I do.
Do I think his prolonged slump really hurt his stock? I don’t.
Do I think coming back helped his stock? Absolutely not.
 
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Do I think Alex will be a superstar at the next level? I don’t.
Do I think Alex has the skill set to be in a rotation? I do.
Do I think his prolonged slump really hurt his stock? I don’t.
Do I think coming back helped his stock? Absolutely not.
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I doubt some 2nd-rounder 15th-man (probably g-league) player is going to get any kind of serious promotions.
You don’t think he’d still be popular in Connecticut?
 

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Does anyone see liam’s poor efficiency so far dropping him out of the lottery? 40 fg% and 35 3pt%
I think he has a track record as an elite shooter going back to high school, and when you add in his free throw % and eye test on his shot form the 35% can be overlooked. This is turning out to be kind of a weak draft class outside of the top two- my hunch is if Liam was shooting 40%+ from three, he would be in the mix starting at #3.
 
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You don’t see a path for a 6’8 guy who has shot 40% from 3 in college in the NBA
My concern is his defense. He can’t cover a guard or a power forward in the NBA. Wouldn’t he be torched by most small forwards at that level? And he’s not like Cam who can come in and hit 4 threes in 10 minutes.
 
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I think he has a track record as an elite shooter going back to high school, and when you add in his free throw % and eye test on his shot form the 35% can be overlooked. This is turning out to be kind of a weak draft class outside of the top two- my hunch is if Liam was shooting 40%+ from three, he would be in the mix starting at #3.
This is considered one of the strongest draft classes in a long time, not sure where you are getting that view beyond personal opinion.
 

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This is considered one of the strongest draft classes in a long time, not sure where you are getting that view beyond personal opinion.
Not sure who he’s down on between Ace Bailey and Dylan Harper
 

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You don't think a shooting percentage drop as a bigger focus in an offense impacts stock? It's a lot easier to shoot open threes when you're a 4-5 option in an offense. Great shooters in the NBA shoot the 3 over 40% at the NBA line. If you're coming in and your primary skills is a shooter, how you shoot when the defense is focusing on you likely matters at least a little.

The combine drill didn't have defenders, Alex is really good at shooting wide open as it gives him plenty of time to square and load.
The way defenses are playing him didn’t affect him for the first part of the season but then all of a sudden he couldn’t handle it? Its not like his slump was him getting more difficult shots he was just missing good looks.

You really think nba scouts opinion of the type of shooter karaban is has changed over the last couple of months?

RE the combine, I mean maybe they’re just doing shooting drills to kill time but he had arguably the best shooting performance of anyone last year…so maybe scouts will consider that in trying to understand how good of a shooter he is
 
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My guess is Alex is to.
At this point Alex is fully mature and developed at the collegiate level. Another year, as a senior, even with better overall stats won’t help his draft stock much.. He is who he is at this point and better for him to start his next chapter now.
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The way defenses are playing him didn’t affect him for the first part of the season but then all of a sudden he couldn’t handle it? Its not like his slump was him getting more difficult shots he was just missing good looks.

You really think nba scouts opinion of the type of shooter karaban is has changed over the last couple of months?

RE the combine, I mean maybe they’re just doing shooting drills to kill time but he had arguably the best shooting performance of anyone last year…so maybe scouts will consider that in trying to understand how good of a shooter he is
So basically what you're saying is that he walked into this season with an established floor with no downside risk, only value upside. Now that's a deal I'd take. I'm not sure I agree. I also think NBA teams would have serious question marks regarding his shooting form under stress, which has shown to be a bit of an issue. He's not going to be taking a bunch of wide open jumpers in the NBA.
 
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This is a good debate. McNeeley is a top 10 pick. He is a wing player and oerfext for modern nba.

Kid isn't Flagg, but he is going to score a lot of points in the nba.

As far as Karaban. He is showing that he can contribute when he isn't shooting well. He's show an versatile game and his 3-point struggles couldnb chalked up to variance and maybe a mechanical issue.

No one seriously thinks he isn't a good shooter.

To me, he’s Baylor Scheirman, good player, good skills, not good enough athletically to play right away. That Karaban end of round one to
Middle of Round 2.

I don't know if he should come out. He also
Might not want to do the college thing anymore .
 

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Not to get the same NIL deals he'd have at UConn, no
Not saying it would be the same. But he could supplement G League money. He’d still have some endorsement value locally.
 
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Not saying it would be the same. But he could supplement G League money. He’d still have some endorsement value locally.
Maybe, but not significantly. And we should want those endorsement deals to be going to UConn players anyway
 
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This is considered one of the strongest draft classes in a long time, not sure where you are getting that view beyond personal opinion.
Draft people have started saying that they expected it to be, but that it has fallen off and that nobody likes any of the players from like 4-15.
 
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