Update on OSU's Coaching Hire

[Vowelguy]

suggestions that Ohio St passed on both candidates ...

1. Mike Flynn ‏@MikeFlynn826
   
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   #OhioState names rumored Aglar, Semrau. McGuff, JoannP, Jabir. Some old, new, some repeating. Who knows but not being handled well. #opps
   
2. Mike Flynn ‏@MikeFlynn826
   
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   Really surprised that #OhioState went in another direction from names I heard. Must be going for Presser hire. As I said tough job to take

 

[Raoul]

Toledo Blade writer reporting it's Kevin McGuff. Don't like this hire, as a Michigan fan.

Ryan Autullo ‏@AutulloBlade

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I am told Washington's Kevin McGuff got the Ohio State job.

 

[EricLA]

Toledo Blade writer reporting it's Kevin McGuff. Don't like this hire, as a Michigan fan.

If true, doesn't really say much about OSU's ability to land an elite coach, or be an elite destination. Meaning that all the "high profile" people they wanted either passed on the job, or didn't work out. Still, he did a nice job at Xavier, but hasn't really had enough time to show what he can do at Washington. BTW it was just reported on 3-16-13 (not even a month ago) that he signed an extension thru the 2020 season at Washington.

Having said that, he did land Washington's first blue chip recruits in Collier and Plum, so maybe he's a really good up and coming coach. Maybe like Mitchell, Walz, etc. Still, not exactly a flashy hire for OSU.

 

[KnightBridgeAZ]

If true, doesn't really say much about OSU's ability to land an elite coach, or be an elite destination. Meaning that all the "high profile" people they wanted either passed on the job, or didn't work out. Still, e did a nice job at Xavier, but hasn't really had enough time to show what he can do at Washington. BTW it was just reported on 3-16-13 (not even a month ago) that he signed an extension thru the 2020 season at Washington.

Having said that, he did land Washington's first blue chip recruits in Collier and Plum, so maybe he's a really good up and coming coach. Maybe like Mitchell, Walz, etc. Still, not exactly a flashy hire for OSU.

McGuff is considered an elite up and coming coach. As said, he hasn't had time to show what he can do at Washington, but their record - while they didn't play anybody - was certainly decent. And that is a stepping stone, according to various coaches I have heard speak at times, even for a major - build a team that wins what it should, scheduling so they do, and then bring in the tougher competition and continue building. I think Geno did some of that at the beginning of his career, although I won't swear.

 

[Raoul]

A lot of the "high-profile" people mentioned weren't exactly realistic—did anyone really believe Walz would leave Louisville? I think McGuff will be able to recruit Ohio, which could quickly pay dividends given all the talent in that state.

 

[Vowelguy]

McGuff had Washington on the verge of the NCAAs this year, which hasn't happened in a while.
In my opinion, a rising star and a better pick than Cullop or Meier.

 

[JoePgh]

I think that will be an excellent hire if it happens, particularly because of McGuff's Ohio background while at Xavier, and also his nearby recruiting while at Notre Dame as an assistant. But I thought he was on the list of those who told OSU to pound salt?

 

[Vowelguy]

I think that will be an excellent hire if it happens, particularly because of McGuff's Ohio background while at Xavier, and also his nearby recruiting while at Notre Dame as an assistant. But I thought he was on the list of those who told OSU to pound salt?

At this point, it might be easier to have a list of coaches who *havent* turned them down.

 

[kyleslamb]

At this point, it might be easier to have a list of coaches who *havent* turned them down.

Only a couple were actually offered the job (Geno and Walz). The others were spoken with, but never given an offer. Their "turning down the job" was more about reading the tea leaves and removing themselves from consideration after seeing they weren't the first choice(s).

 

[Vowelguy]

Tis official: Kevin McGuff hired at Ohio St.

So much for more competition in the PAC.

 

[CBus13]

I hope this will be a good hire. But of course the next season is going to be tough for any coach. He may want to look into some JUCO players for these two years seeing as Foster left nothing. I feel like Washington was going to be really good soon with Collier healthy and their record while injured so maybe OSU will be relevant again in a few years.

 

[Phil]

Holy cow, I was thinking McGuff would be a great choice but that the timing was wrong I guess I muffed that one.

Wonder what this means for the rest of the staff - whether Mike Neighbors follows McGuff, or gets the head job. I think Adia Barnes is happy in Seattle and has connections to the Storm and Seattle Academy , so I'm guessing she is staying.

 

[Coler]

Am I the only one who dislikes McGuff doing this? He left a job where he was finally getting blue chip recruits in, and turning the program around...and he leaves it for hot mess Ohio State?

 

[HuskyFan1125]

I'm shocked! Completely shocked! He had a great recruiting class coming in at Washington.

 

[kyleslamb]

Am I the only one who dislikes McGuff doing this? He left a job where he was finally getting blue chip recruits in, and turning the program around...and he leaves it for hot mess Ohio State?

They were winning 30 games a year just 3 years ago. With the number of bluechip recruits in the state of Ohio on an annual basis, he should have no problems getting them in the top-10 regularly. With Ohio State's facilities, resources, recruiting base and (until recently) decent support, there's certainly nothing stopping him from turning that place into a perennial power. He's also an Ohio guy. So it's a meaningful job to him.

 

[Icebear]

They were winning 30 games a year just 3 years ago. With the number of bluechip recruits in the state of Ohio on an annual basis, he should have no problems getting them in the top-10 regularly. With Ohio State's facilities, resources, recruiting base and (until recently) decent support, there's certainly nothing stopping him from turning that place into a perennial power. He's also an Ohio guy. So it's a meaningful job to him.

On the other hand recruiting had fallen apart the last two seasons.

 

[Wbbfan1]

UW Owed 1.75 Million - Link

Should be a good hire as he knows the Mid West and should be able to compete for recruits with Notre Dame & Purdue.

 

[Coler]

They were winning 30 games a year just 3 years ago. With the number of bluechip recruits in the state of Ohio on an annual basis, he should have no problems getting them in the top-10 regularly. With Ohio State's facilities, resources, recruiting base and (until recently) decent support, there's certainly nothing stopping him from turning that place into a perennial power. He's also an Ohio guy. So it's a meaningful job to him.

Yes, but what about the recruits that came to play for him at Washington? He left high and dry. They should be able to get out of their NLI imo.

 

[Icebear]

Yes, but what about the recruits that came to play for him at Washington? He left high and dry. They should be able to get out of their NLI imo.

Might be your opinion but that isn't how it is in the NCAA and that's the opinion that counts in regards to NLIs.

 

[RockyMTblue2]

Remember OSU thought throwing a blank check at Geno would be sufficient.

That is pretty disconnected isn't it.

 

[kyleslamb]

On the other hand recruiting had fallen apart the last two seasons.

Yeah for the previous coach, who was fired. There's no disputing Foster lost favor with coaches in-state. However, he did have the personality of a rock and was able to get enough talent to win six straight Big Ten titles (and to be honest, he whiffed on most of the great in-state talent... of which they have an abundance). On merit alone, he probably deserved another year but his relationships in-state had soured.

That won't mean anything six months from now when McGuff is out on the recruiting trail. These things are all about momentum. You put nice facilities, a big fanbase and a lot of televised games in front of recruits with a relatable coach, they'll all listen.

Recruits don't care about the past. They only care about the now. You know why Nike does so well? They know kids are impressionable. They sell things they know kids are looking for and don't rest on what was popular just last year. The music industry is the same way. One style of music may not have worked last year, but execs are smart enough to know what people are listening to and adapt. New coaches are the same way. It doesn't matter how much you like your own pair of boring white tennis shoes or how they were popular 2 years ago. The important thing is whether you can show a pair of shoes that kids want to buy now. The best coaches, more or less, are simply the guys that know how to sell to kids. McGuff, on the surface, appears to be one of those guys.

 

[Coler]

Might be your opinion but that isn't how it is in the NCAA and that's the opinion that counts in regards to NLIs.

I know that. But it's still crappy if those recruits want to go elsewhere and have to sit out a year.

 

[KnightBridgeAZ]

I know that. But it's still crappy if those recruits want to go elsewhere and have to sit out a year.

It is. But it is the way of the college sports world. Sadly.

I wish him all luck, I think it was a good hire for tOSU and a good job move for him.