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Upcoming Gampel Enchantments

gampelcrazies said:
Be careful what you wish for. After going to the new hockey arena I don’t trust them to build something nice/better. That place is lifeless.

Also knocking down Gampel would be a mistake because of the history we have had there.

$100 million should be enough to fix almost everything wrong with it
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CL82 said:
Sort of, I feel like the original capacity was more like 8500. That wasn't a lie, that was the original capacity. a year later "demand" forced and increase by about 1800 seats. Those things happen. (In fact, I'm still waiting for them to happen at Toscano.)
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The demand for the #IceBus has fallen since the opening of Toscano FIF. Part of the difference is that there are alternatives for hockey nearby. It’s no coincidence that the Hartford Wolf Pack’s attendance increased right at that time, and sure it doesn’t hurt that the AHL team has been playing better too.

There are no other options to see basketball at a high level unless you go see the Knicks or Celtics, so demand for the basketball teams, considering what they represent as our defacto professional sports teams (yes significantly beyond the CT Sun) and their success means that demand will be high for some time. There will be a parade and a rally for the Huskies- again. If the CT Sun wins the WNBA championship, what form of celebration would take place? A stroll around the River Blue Chihuly sculpture?
 
DblCrossbar said:
The demand for the #IceBus has fallen since the opening of Toscano FIF. Part of the difference is that there are alternatives for hockey nearby. It’s no coincidence that the Hartford Wolf Pack’s attendance increased right at that time, and sure it doesn’t hurt that the AHL team has been playing better too.

There are no other options to see basketball at a high level unless you go see the Knicks or Celtics, so demand for the basketball teams, considering what they represent as our defacto professional sports teams (yes significantly beyond the CT Sun) and their success means that demand will be high for some time. There will be a parade and a rally for the Huskies- again. If the CT Sun wins the WNBA championship, what form of celebration would take place? A stroll around the River Blue Chihuly sculpture?
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It's tough to get seats there, and the questionable choices they made, such as the "student block house" and the ice level lounge effectively killed the energy in the place. Eliminate those two and add more Seats and it would be a much better environment. In my opinion.
 
CL82 said:
It's tough to get seats there, and the questionable choices they made, such as the "student block house" and the ice level lounge effectively killed the energy in the place. Eliminate those two and add more Seats and it would be a much better environment. In my opinion.
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Been saying exactly that since the TFIF opened. 100% blew it when the design by committee and JCJ architects blundered the design,

As for basketball, if a new facility were built rather than a renovation, where would it be on campus? If at the existing site, it would likely mean all games at the XL for awhile…
 
CL82 said:
Sort of, I feel like the original capacity was more like 8500. That wasn't a lie, that was the original capacity. a year later "demand" forced and increase by about 1800 seats. Those things happen. (In fact, I'm still waiting for them to happen at Toscano.)
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The initial capacity, when it opened was eoght thousand and change. When the proposal went for approval a couple years earlier, the capacity that was listed in the proposal was ~6,400 and was done intentionally to limit the opposition to the project as both locals and Hartford businesses were against the idea of building anything all that much larger than they (then) existing field house.

The number submitted was within range of DuPont (now Finneran) and Carnesecca, The plan all along was to build it bigger but they couldn't break ground without approval and wouldn't get approval at eight thousand plus.
 
FfldCntyFan said:
The initial capacity, when it opened was eoght thousand and change. When the proposal went for approval a couple years earlier, the capacity that was listed in the proposal was ~6,400 and was done intentionally to limit the opposition to the project as both locals and Hartford businesses were against the idea of building anything all that much larger than they (then) existing field house.

The number submitted was within range of DuPont (now Finneran) and Carnesecca, The plan all along was to build it bigger but they couldn't break ground without approval and wouldn't get approval at eight thousand plus.
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My recollection was the size got capped, and again I think it was 8500, because of a desire to prevent the university from scheduling major concert events there, which was perceived as being potentially injurious to the Civic Center and the New Haven Coliseum. But, that's from memory, so I could be wrong.
 
DblCrossbar said:
Been saying exactly that since the TFIF opened. 100% blew it when the design by committee and JCJ architects blundered the design,

As for basketball, if a new facility were built rather than a renovation, where would it be on campus? If at the existing site, it would likely mean all games at the XL for awhile…
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I wouldn't be in favor of a new building. However, if one were built I would build it somewhere within the athletic campus and leave Gampel intact until after it was built.
 
CL82 said:
I wouldn't be in favor of a new building. However, if one were built I would build it somewhere within the athletic campus and leave Gampel intact until after it was built.
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If so, then they will also have to build a new parking garage up there to support fan attendance in that area. The good news is that it would support all of the athletic facilities there too. And add shuttle busses from North and South garage.

There may also be room on Discovery Drive as well, and is a little easier to access than the athletic facility village.
 
DblCrossbar said:
If so, then they will also have to build a new parking garage up there to support fan attendance in that area. The good news is that it would support all of the athletic facilities there too. And add shuttle busses from North and South garage.

There may also be room on Discovery Drive as well, and is a little easier to access than the athletic facility village.
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They're definitely is room on discovery Drive. My preference is to do all the development in the athletic campus so that the same parking lot is available for different sports. I don't know that they'd have to build a second garage, because there is adequate space to do ground level parking. The big issue is figuring out how to get traffic out of there relatively quickly. If you make Hillside one way, all the way up and through discovery Drive, that would probably help a lot.
 
If they build fixed seats in the lower bowl they would be able to add some additional seating/boxes. Since the volleyball team is no longer playing in there it may be possible.

Hockey rink was a fiasco, original plans were for it to be bigger but construction costs skyrocketed post covid and forced a redesign that would still meet Hockey East criteria. Timeframe forced their hands.
 
CL82 said:
My recollection was the size got capped, and again I think it was 8500, because of a desire to prevent the university from scheduling major concert events there, which was perceived as being potentially injurious to the Civic Center and the New Haven Coliseum. But, that's from memory, so I could be wrong.
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I'm pretty certain the original proposal was for somewhere around12,500 seats at an estimated cost of about $25-30 M. That was deemed too costly so UConn was told to redesign it and reduce the cost. The next iteration was for 10,000 or so seats but again, due to the time lag and rising costs, the cost was about the same as for the earlier design with 12,500 seats so UConn was told to redesign it yet again. Once again the size was reduced to save on cost and the design included 8241 seats for (again) about $25-30 M.

The real goal was to reduce capacity so the arena wouldn't compete with downtown Hartford and once that goal was reached with a capacity of 8241 seats the project was approved. Construction started in 1987 and we were there on January 27, 1990, to see UConn defeat St. John's in Dan Cyrulik's career game. Wow, we thought, he's going to be the best center we've ever had. Not the way it worked out, but he and Toraino Walker outplayed Mutombo and Mourning in the Big East Tournament semi-final that same year on the way to our first BE Tournament Championship.

Demand was so great seats were added around the entrances at the end of the 1995-96 season, increasing capacity to 10,027 seats. Two other small expansions increased capacity in 2002 to 10,167 and in 2023 to 10,299.
 
When they were talking about building the new Basketball Center
next door I thought they should build the NEW Gampel Arena there and turn the present Gampel into the new BB Center, killing two birds with one stone, so to speak!
Get big time sponsors to name the building for Millions $!
The new arena should have theater seating for 15,000 fans!
Sky-boxes for high rent subscribers rather than floor level where they don't show up for every game and seats go unused!
Wide crosswalks with modern concessions where fans could get great food more than just a snacks menu as is presently available!
A sideline student section like they have at Duke and several other venues making it an awesomely loud UConn crowd advantage!
An over the court Scoreboard/Message board With a huge 4 side screen!
"If you build it they will come!" If Storrs is truly the BB Capital of the World, do it right!
Have the best on campus arena in the USA!
And continue to play games at XL Center to keep the Ct House and Senate happy!
Nothing less than above is a worthless waste of $!
 
RSHERMVIKES said:
When they were talking about building the new Basketball Center
next door I thought they should build the NEW Gampel Arena there and turn the present Gampel into the new BB Center, killing two birds with one stone, so to speak!
Get big time sponsors to name the building for Millions $!
The new arena should have theater seating for 15,000 fans!
Sky-boxes for high rent subscribers rather than floor level where they don't show up for every game and seats go unused!
Wide crosswalks with modern concessions where fans could get great food more than just a snacks menu as is presently available!
A sideline student section like they have at Duke and several other venues making it an awesomely loud UConn crowd advantage!
An over the court Scoreboard/Message board With a huge 4 side screen!
"If you build it they will come!" If Storrs is truly the BB Capital of the World, do it right!
Have the best on campus arena in the USA!
And continue to play games at XL Center to keep the Ct House and Senate happy!
Nothing less than above is a worthless waste of $!
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How deep is your wallet?
 
RSHERMVIKES said:
Mr. Wonderful- - - They're talking about giving UConn $100 million for renovation why not use that $ and get rich alumni $ and do it right instead of piecemeal like they've done to the XL Center over the years!
If you don't dream big why dream at all?
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"Dream" is the key word here. :)
 
RSHERMVIKES said:
Nothing less than above is a worthless waste of $!
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^ Is this anything like, "I could care less"?

For those who dipped back into this thread when it reappeared near the top of the queue, take a closer look at the thread's true title:

Everything makes much more sense when you consider that the subject matter is ENCHANTMENTS.
 
RSHERMVIKES said:
When they were talking about building the new Basketball Center
next door I thought they should build the NEW Gampel Arena there and turn the present Gampel into the new BB Center, killing two birds with one stone, so to speak!
Get big time sponsors to name the building for Millions $!
The new arena should have theater seating for 15,000 fans!
Sky-boxes for high rent subscribers rather than floor level where they don't show up for every game and seats go unused!
Wide crosswalks with modern concessions where fans could get great food more than just a snacks menu as is presently available!
A sideline student section like they have at Duke and several other venues making it an awesomely loud UConn crowd advantage!
An over the court Scoreboard/Message board With a huge 4 side screen!
"If you build it they will come!" If Storrs is truly the BB Capital of the World, do it right!
Have the best on campus arena in the USA!
And continue to play games at XL Center to keep the Ct House and Senate happy!
Nothing less than above is a worthless waste of $!
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Except the foundation and infrastructure for a basketball stadium is completely different from a practice facility. Current-location Gampel obviously had/has that, and they understandably would want to maintain. Bummer there isn’t much immediately available/accessible land to built a new stadium elsewhere because it probably should be replaced. It’s been open 35 years now.
 

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