Undefeated teams

[Bone Dog]

Iowa State survives 74-69, I agree with @oldude neither team impressed me and UConn should have no problems with the Hawkeyes.

Agree. These are very unbalanced squads. It’s good to see Jada Williams finding a place for herself somewhere. But all the missed layups on both sides was pretty weak, whatever the stat line suggests.

 

[HuskyNan]

 

[DennieEddy]

We should have a cartologist on call to update the map.

 

[Rocket009]

 

[DefenseBB]

She torn the labrum of her left hip as a HS freshman and the labrum of her right as a HS senior. Trivia: Mir McLean and Saylor both transferred into Maryland this year, making it 3 Us for both of them. They have been besties for years and this article reveals Mir "supported" Saylor through the act of leaving UConn.

Mir McLean and Saylor Poffenbarger: Reunited - University of Maryland Athletics

Mir McLean and Saylor Poffenbarger: Reunited

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Rocky, why do you do this to me??? They both transferred in LAST YEAR along with Amari DeBerry.

 

[RockyMTblue2]

Rocky, why do you do this to me??? They both transferred in LAST YEAR along with Amari DeBerry.

You are late to the straighten out Rocky party, but if I have in some small way kept you moving I'm glad @DefenseBB.

 

[DefenseBB]

So, at the moment, we have 12 undefeated teams and here is my list of the first to the last of that group will get saddled with a loss FOR THE REGULAR SEASON:

1. Texas Tech play at Baylor on 12/21. This unbeaten streak is built upon the 111 SoS. Gurlich needed a soft schedule to retain her job. If they beat Baylor, they are at WVU on 1/7
2. Nebraska, again built on a poor OOC. Best win is against #57 Creighton. They play USC on 12/29 and then at Iowa on 1/1.
3. Georgia, I got to hand to coach Abe, when on the hot seat, play lots of cream puffs to cool off the hunt. SoS of 157 but at Ole Miss awaits on 1/1 and if by chance she survives that LSU is 1/8.
4. Alabama, same old, same old-SoS of 170 but South Carolina awaits on 1/1.
5. Arizona State they start Big 12 play with 4 weak conference team members before playing TCU on 1/11
6. Maryland they have it fairly easy until 1/11 when they start a 4 game gauntlet of OSU at home, at USC, at UCLA and back home against Iowa.
7. Vanderbilt, SoS is 74 which is better than this sister conference members above but the bubble bursts on 1/4 vs. LSU
8. LSU is interesting in that they have 3 games against Texas/SC. Home vs. Texas 1/11 and at Texas 2/14 and at home vs. SC 2/18. They too could gather steam.
9. TCU another interesting team, they play at WVU on 1/14 and then at home vs. Ohio State on 1/19 in a non-conference game. If they pass this set, then they could also be on a roll
10. Iowa State has intrigue, The Big 12 is weak this year and ISU has Baylor and WVU at home, their first hard road game is not until 2/22 vs. TCU so they could garner steam.
11. Texas at LSU on 1/11 and at South Carolina on 1/15 will be their toughest tests.
12. UConn-toughest test left, Tennessee and revenge. This game is most definitely on all the returning players minds and is in Hartford on Feb 1. No contest, and will stay undefeated until the NCAAT.

 

[oldude]

So, at the moment, we have 12 undefeated teams and here is my list of the first to the last of that group will get saddled with a loss FOR THE REGULAR SEASON:

1. Texas Tech play at Baylor on 12/21. This unbeaten streak is built upon the 111 SoS. Gurlich needed a soft schedule to retain her job. If they beat Baylor, they are at WVU on 1/7
2. Nebraska, again built on a poor OOC. Best win is against #57 Creighton. They play USC on 12/29 and then at Iowa on 1/1.
3. Georgia, I got to hand to coach Abe, when on the hot seat, play lots of cream puffs to cool off the hunt. SoS of 157 but at Ole Miss awaits on 1/1 and if by chance she survives that LSU is 1/8.
4. Alabama, same old, same old-SoS of 170 but South Carolina awaits on 1/1.
5. Arizona State they start Big 12 play with 4 weak conference team members before playing TCU on 1/11
6. Maryland they have it fairly easy until 1/11 when they start a 4 game gauntlet of OSU at home, at USC, at UCLA and back home against Iowa.
7. Vanderbilt, SoS is 74 which is better than this sister conference members above but the bubble bursts on 1/4 vs. LSU
8. LSU is interesting in that they have 3 games against Texas/SC. Home vs. Texas 1/11 and at Texas 2/14 and at home vs. SC 2/18. They too could gather steam.
9. TCU another interesting team, they play at WVU on 1/14 and then at home vs. Ohio State on 1/19 in a non-conference game. If they pass this set, then they could also be on a roll
10. Iowa State has intrigue, The Big 12 is weak this year and ISU has Baylor and WVU at home, their first hard road game is not until 2/22 vs. TCU so they could garner steam.
11. Texas at LSU on 1/11 and at South Carolina on 1/15 will be their toughest tests.
12. UConn-toughest test left, Tennessee and revenge. This game is most definitely on all the returning players minds and is in Hartford on Feb 1. No contest, and will stay undefeated until the NCAAT.

IMO the only team aside from UConn that has any chance to run the table is TX, and that will be a big lift for the Longhorns once they start SEC play. Should UConn & TX be the only 2 teams left standing prior to the Big Dance, in all honesty, I think TX will have an extremely strong argument to be the #1 overall seed. But if the Huskies are the only remaining unbeaten, I just don’t see anyone else stealing the overall #1.

 

[Skeets]

IMO the only team aside from UConn that has any chance to run the table is TX, and that will be a big lift for the Longhorns once they start SEC play. Should UConn & TX be the only 2 teams left standing prior to the Big Dance, in all honesty, I think TX will have an extremely strong argument to be the #1 overall seed. But if the Huskies are the only remaining unbeaten, I just don’t see anyone else stealing the overall #1.

OD, I'm still of the opinion that the king of the hill is still the king until someone proves they're not. It doesn't matter if it's UConn or someone else. How can you punish the #1 team by what the #2 does? Unless, of course, the #2 team beats the #1 team, or the #1 team otherwise loses.

Someone posted, this isn't a heavyweight title belt, so the king of the hill doesn't have to be the current champ. I say, chicken proof (does anyone say chicken proof anymore?). There's opportunity during the regular season, not to mention the NACC tournament to chicken proof.

 

[FanSince17]

OD, I'm still of the opinion that the king of the hill is still the king until someone proves they're not. It doesn't matter if it's UConn or someone else. How can you punish the #1 team by what the #2 does? Unless, of course, the #2 team beats the #1 team, or the #1 team otherwise loses.

Someone posted, this isn't a heavyweight title belt, so the king of the hill doesn't have to be the current champ. I say, chicken proof (does anyone say chicken proof anymore?). There's opportunity during the regular season, not to mention the NACC tournament to chicken proof.

Darn, I was gunna give you a big thumbs up but you misquoted me. I said it's like a boxing belt, it's yours until somebody takes it from you. Crap!

 

[oldude]

OD, I'm still of the opinion that the king of the hill is still the king until someone proves they're not. It doesn't matter if it's UConn or someone else. How can you punish the #1 team by what the #2 does? Unless, of course, the #2 team beats the #1 team, or the #1 team otherwise loses.

Someone posted, this isn't a heavyweight title belt, so the king of the hill doesn't have to be the current champ. I say, chicken proof (does anyone say chicken proof anymore?). There's opportunity during the regular season, not to mention the NACC tournament to chicken proof.

I don’t disagree with your argument. But there are objective metrics that do go into the seeding process, and should TX win out, their SOS would undoubtedly be higher than UConn’s by virtue of running the table in the toughest conference in the nation, along with Big OOC wins over UCLA, NC and and extra win over SC.

I don’t think that will happen. But my point remains. Should UConn & TX both run the table, TX can make a legitimate argument for the overall #1 seed.

 

[Bills Fan]

Just think about the possibilities if we still had Ohio! We could then proudly call ourselves THE University of Connecticut.

Plus we would be the reigning National Champs in football and Women's BB

 

[Suebird10fan]

IMO the only team aside from UConn that has any chance to run the table is TX, and that will be a big lift for the Longhorns once they start SEC play. Should UConn & TX be the only 2 teams left standing prior to the Big Dance, in all honesty, I think TX will have an extremely strong argument to be the #1 overall seed. But if the Huskies are the only remaining unbeaten, I just don’t see anyone else stealing the overall #1.

I would put the odds at 1 in 10 at best, probably more like 1 in 20 or so, of Tx running the table. I’d say something similar for UConn if they had TX’s schedule

 

[Dugway]

I would put the odds at 1 in 10 at best, probably more like 1 in 20 or so, of Tx running the table. I’d say something similar for UConn if they had TX’s schedule

I agree, it’s going to be VERY difficult for any team to run the table in that conference. As such, if that were to happen, I also agree with oldude in that the committee would rank that team at the top.

Seeding doesn’t matter however. It is just a feel good thing. UConn will likely be #1. But ultimately, you are going to have to beat every team you play come March and April regardless if you are 1 or not.

 

[DEFCONN1]

I agree, it’s going to be VERY difficult for any team to run the table in that conference. As such, if that were to happen, I also agree with oldude in that the committee would rank that team at the top.

Seeding doesn’t matter however. It is just a feel good thing. UConn will likely be #1. But ultimately, you are going to have to beat every team you play come March and April regardless if you are 1 or not.

Kinda like last year !

 

[fomalhaut]

Massey has Texas with 3.17 expected losses in their remaining games (I think that's before the conference tournaments). The only power teams less than 2 are South Carolina at 1.81 and Connecticut at 0.71. Fairfield is second-best at 1.80, and only a handful of other teams are below 3 (Princeton, South Dakota State, High Point, Fairleigh Dickinson, and Norfolk State).

 

[Vowelguy]

How can you punish the #1 team by what the #2 team does?

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How do you punish the #2 team for something that happened last year?

 

[RedStickHusky]

How is making an objective assessment of this seasons performance, punishing anybody? You get what you deserve, not what some fans think you deserve, and not what you earned last year.

 

[FridaFriend]

I am hoping that Troy can beat Alabama tomorrow before Arizona State meets Colorado (and loses?)

 

[Skeets]

How is making an objective assessment of this seasons performance, punishing anybody? You get what you deserve, not what some fans think you deserve, and not what you earned last year.

Well, that's your opinion. I suppose if UConn keeps winning they deserve to be punished.

 

[RedStickHusky]

Well, that's your opinion. I suppose if UConn keeps winning they deserve to be punished.

I guarantee that UConn will be properly rewarded for rolling through the big East with 40 point wins. SC and Texas will have a lot more opportunities to stack impressive wins. Doesn't matter though, they still have to play the games and a top eight seed is plenty good. I really can't see UConn falling past two if they fall at all, but I'm not worried either way.

 

[RedStickHusky]

Well, that's your opinion. I suppose if UConn keeps winning they deserve to be punished.

Lol. Btw, both the in season polls and the tourney seedings are also "opinions".

 

[darkstar1]

As I see see it, if you’re top 4, you’ll be a 1 when it counts.

 

[OFID]

While we're passing time during the winter break waiting for the season to resume, here are some calculations done using data from Warren Nolan (www.WarrenNolan.com) and repeated for data from Bart Torvik (www.barttorvik.com). Torvik is somewhat more optimistic about UConn going undefeated than Nolan.

 

[Bone Dog]

While we're passing time during the winter break waiting for the season to resume, here are some calculations done using data from Warren Nolan (www.WarrenNolan.com) and repeated for data from Bart Torvik (www.barttorvik.com). Torvik is somewhat more optimistic about UConn going undefeated than Nolan.

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Excellent analysis. Intriguing how close the results are other than the difference in UConn’s probability. And even that is not outrageously different — 51% vs 84% seems like a lot, but the order of magnitude difference from the next closest teams seems about right in each case.

If I compare it to my ‘eyeball’ analysis of UConn’s schedule, I think an upset in conference play is very unlikely. So the only real possibility of a defeat in the regular season lies with ND or Tennessee. These are more substantial possibilities and are in keeping with the 84% number. Of course, the possibility of an upset in the tournament is much more real, especially against the likes of SC UCLA Texas or LSU. But if UConn is a #1 seed, they’ll only face two of these teams in all likelihood. The 51% number may be a more accurate assessment of this possibility, that is against two top tier competitors.