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UConn clearly has the greatest athletic achievements among the northeast flagships mentioned but academically the disparity is not as great. US News has UConn ranked #56 among national universities while UMass is #75 and Delaware is #81, both of which are much higher than most AAC members.
This is a good take. Much less homer bias.

UMass and Delaware are credible potential rivals, within the region, with similar standing. Athletically UConn has a better hoops pedigree, of course.

I do understand looking down on potential regional rivalries. It is part of why regional foes become better rivals. If UMass starts outperforming UConn regularly in football, it has the making of a rivalry. It has better rivalry potential than Tulsa.
 
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Nova fans typically look down on Temple as a rival. It does not have a great athletic history. Basketball has been relevant in the past, but it isn't in recent history.

Personally, I'd take UConn and Temple into the Big East. Both strengthen the East Coast footprint. Temple is a natural rival to develop for Nova. UConn is a natural rival to develop for Prov and St Johns (and Nova).

On the down side, 12 in a hoops conference is more challenging for the schedule. Temple's academic rating is not an ideal fit. Both UConn and Temple break the current private school mold of the conference. UConn's history of violations brings some baggage. UConn hoops has hit bottom (but I believe in the rebuild).

Even with the noted baggage, I'd add UConn and Temple given the chance. One school of thought is that Nova owns the Philly market (recruiting and TV interest). I think more schools and rivalries in a market grows interest. It doesn't only compete with your interest, it grows interest. UConn adds to our NYC centric conference.

I'd leave Cincy out of the discussion. They are more likely to move to the Big 12 at some point anyway. They fit into the conference footprint and I wouldn't have strong objections, but I'd prefer UConn and Temple.

The Big East is fine. No additions are needed. I would not have supported Dayton, VCU, Wichita State, or other mid majors that have been proposed. I would take UConn and Temple.
 
UConn fans dismissing UMass as unworthy is exactly like BC fans dismissing UConn as unworthy, and just as stupid/self-destructive. Sports are built on regional rivalries. UMass's growth would not hurt UConn; it would help UConn. It would generate interest and fans. UMass is a pretty huge school, and if they want to make the investment and play, then fine, I have no problem with it.

Of course, ideally we end up in the ACC, but in the meantime, I don't think UMass weakens the AAC, and certainly doesn't hurt UConn.
 
UConn fans dismissing UMass as unworthy is exactly like BC fans dismissing UConn as unworthy, and just as stupid/self-destructive. Sports are built on regional rivalries. UMass's growth would not hurt UConn; it would help UConn. It would generate interest and fans. UMass is a pretty huge school, and if they want to make the investment and play, then fine, I have no problem with it.

Of course, ideally we end up in the ACC, but in the meantime, I don't think UMass weakens the AAC, and certainly doesn't hurt UConn.
Disagree. If UMass caught some traction and starts putting together winning teams consistently, then by all means let's invite them. But adding another mouth that brings nothing other than proximity to UConn makes zero sense. FWIW, I fully agree that a competitive UMass or URI programs are good for New England sports, which is good for UConn, but it needs to be more than wishful thinking.
 
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UMass' strengths are lacrosse and men's hockey. Are having difficulty attracting anyone, even fans, to other programs. Their hockey crowds are puny, even.
 
Disagree. If UMass caught some traction and starts putting together winning teams consistently, then by all means let's invite them. But adding another mouth that brings nothing other than proximity to UConn makes zero sense. FWIW, I fully agree that a competitive UMass or URI programs are good for New England sports, which is good for UConn, but it needs to be more than wishful thinking.
I think scheduling an ooc game with UMass early is a win win for us. The proximity and rivalry would be good, and as an early season tune up for UConn it gives the Huskies a chance to kick a local team in the teeth before conference play starts in earnest and gives the coaching staff a chance to experiment with different offensive and defensive schemes. After that if UMass improves then so be it. The coaches are probably also going to know what UMass is capable of on the field better than other teams because a lot of their players are local kids that the coaches are already familiar with.
 
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Nova fans typically look down on Temple as a rival. It does not have a great athletic history. Basketball has been relevant in the past, but it isn't in recent history.

Personally, I'd take UConn and Temple into the Big East. Both strengthen the East Coast footprint. Temple is a natural rival to develop for Nova. UConn is a natural rival to develop for Prov and St Johns (and Nova).

On the down side, 12 in a hoops conference is more challenging for the schedule. Temple's academic rating is not an ideal fit. Both UConn and Temple break the current private school mold of the conference. UConn's history of violations brings some baggage. UConn hoops has hit bottom (but I believe in the rebuild).

Even with the noted baggage, I'd add UConn and Temple given the chance. One school of thought is that Nova owns the Philly market (recruiting and TV interest). I think more schools and rivalries in a market grows interest. It doesn't only compete with your interest, it grows interest. UConn adds to our NYC centric conference.

I'd leave Cincy out of the discussion. They are more likely to move to the Big 12 at some point anyway. They fit into the conference footprint and I wouldn't have strong objections, but I'd prefer UConn and Temple.

The Big East is fine. No additions are needed. I would not have supported Dayton, VCU, Wichita State, or other mid majors that have been proposed. I would take UConn and Temple.
The only sports I see UConn possibly joining the Big East in are badminton and ping pong.
 
The only sports I see UConn possibly joining the Big East in are badminton and ping pong.
Maybe not right now, but I think UConn can rebuild and also be competitive in other sports.
 
We are already in the Big East for field hockey and women's lacrosse.

2018 was the last season that UConn women's lacrosse was in the Big East. The AAC will be sponsering women's lacrosse starting in the spring of 2019, and UConn will be part of it. Cincinnati, Temple, East Carolina, Florida, and Vanderbilt will also have teams that participate in women's lacrosse in the AAC.
 
2018 was the last season that UConn women's lacrosse was in the Big East. The AAC will be sponsering women's lacrosse starting in the spring of 2019, and UConn will be part of it. Cincinnati, Temple, East Carolina, Florida, and Vanderbilt will also have teams that participate in women's lacrosse in the AAC.
Thanks for the update. Didn't know the AAC created a women's lacrosse league. Nice to know that Florida and Vanderbilt are coming too.
 
Too bad Villanova didn't upgrade football. Could have been in the AAC right now instead of Temple.
 
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Too bad Villanova didn't upgrade football. Could have been in the AAC right now instead of Temple.
Nice to imagine. The American would have 3 MBB national championships. The legacy of the the Big East would be living on without losing a step.

Oh well, I guess that we will just have to do it ourselves.
 
The Big East really is thriving even though we miss some of the rivalries.
 
We are already in the Big East for field hockey and women's lacrosse.
Not for long. The Big East is a dieing league. Costs too much for kids to go to school to those private Catholic schools. The education is good but not for the exorbitant tuition costs, much much much cheaper for parents to send their kids to a Public Ivy like UConn, SUNY Binghamton, Rutgers, Penn State, Vermont or Virginia.
 
UMass and Delaware are credible potential rivals, within the region, with similar standing. Athletically UConn has a better hoops pedigree, of course.

I think, for Nova, Wesleyan, Trinity, University of Scranton and St. Michael's are great regional rivals with similar standing. Nova has a better hoops pedigree, of course.
 
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I think, for Nova, Wesleyan, Trinity, University of Scranton and St. Michael's are great regional rivals with similar standing. Nova has a better hoops pedigree, of course.

It’s wonderful to see the University of Scranton affiliated with such fine schools.

And Villanova.
 
It’s wonderful to see the University of Scranton affiliated with such fine schools.

Scranton is a good school. Here is how it compares to Nova and the 2 Flagships being discussed.

………….…..KenPom Hoops...….Sagarin FB...…….US News Academics
UConn...…….....179...…...…..…....….135.........…….…...….56 (National)
UMass...…....….....207...…..………..119.........……………........….75 (National)
Nova...…..……...…......1......……….…............….142.........…………........…….46 (National)
Scranton...…..DNF........………….............DNF.........…...…………......…..6 (Regional – North)
 
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Letting you know that we continue to make progress and hope to be at Rentschler Field on Oct 27th.

The long rumor donation is now a reality. You can click the link at the bottom of this post to see what Marty Jacobson has to say about the 5.58 Million dollar gift and about making the IPF a reality now and about the future of UMass Football.

AMHERST, Mass. – University of Massachusetts Director of Athletics Ryan Bamford announced the finalization of a $5.58 million gift commitment by Marty Jacobson '68 to the University of Massachusetts Athletics Department on Wednesday, June 20, 2018. In honor of the tremendous gift, UMass will name its football team facility the 'Martin Jacobson Football Performance Center.'

Jacobson's gift represents a continuation of his staunch support for the University of Massachusetts. The 1968 graduate of the university, along with his brother Richard, previously provided $2.5 million for improvements to McGuirk Alumni Stadium, which funded the construction of the Martin and Richard Jacobson Press and Skybox Complex.
"I felt compelled to make this gift that allows Ryan Bamford and the athletics department to make several infrastructure improvements that will benefit our student-athletes and fans," said Jacobson. "We are in the midst of a renaissance and I hope this is a catalyst which continues that momentum. I'm excited about moving McGuirk Stadium into a modern era with some of the planned amenities and believe that the seasonal bubble will allow our student-athletes to train at a higher level than ever before."

"We are deeply appreciative of this extraordinary gift by Marty Jacobson, which will benefit both our student-athletes and greatly improve the fan experience at McGuirk Alumni Stadium," said Chancellor Kumble Subbaswamy. "His continued and deeply generous support is truly a game changer for UMass Amherst."

The latest financial gift from Jacobson will fund experiential improvements to McGuirk Alumni Stadium for the University of Massachusetts community, current and future student-athletes and fans alike. The $5.58 million pledge provides the support necessary to design and construct a seasonal air-supported indoor structure at McGuirk Alumni Stadium, while his gift will also contribute to a high-definition scoreboard at McGuirk Alumni Stadium, among other planned fan experience facility improvements.

"The support Marty has provided the University of Massachusetts is truly transformational," said Bamford. "We are so thankful for his generosity and appreciative of his leadership in moving our athletics department forward through facility improvements that will benefit our sport programs and the University at large. We are extremely proud to name our outstanding football building the Martin Jacobson Football Performance Center."

The seasonal air-supported structure will directly benefit all University of Massachusetts student-athletes and will provide an indoor training space during the winter months when outdoor facilities are unavailable. The facility will also be available to the larger university community for selected special events.

"Marty Jacobson is a strong supporter of our athletics department and the football team in particular," said football head coach Mark Whipple. "His contributions to UMass football, including the donations he and his brother Richard previously made for the press and skybox complex, are paramount to our continued growth as a FBS program."
Construction will begin at the conclusion of the 2018 football season, and a formal timeline for completion will be established as the final scope for all the improvements within the project are determined.

Those who wish to support and celebrate the success of student-athletes at the University of Massachusetts are invited to join the Minutemen Club. For more information on this project or how to become a member of the Minutemen Club, please call 413-545-4290.

2 min video in Marty Jacobson words and where his money came from in several businesses.

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Scranton is a good school. Here is how it compares to Nova and the 2 Flagships being discussed.

………….…..KenPom Hoops...….Sagarin FB...…….US News Academics
UConn...…….....179...…...…..…....….135....…….…...….56 (National)
UMass...…....….....207...…..………..119....……………...….75 (National)
Nova...…..……...….1.……….…..….142....…………...…….46 (National)
Scranton...…..DNF...…………...DNF....…...………….…..6 (Regional – North)
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Not for long. The Big East is a dieing league. Costs too much for kids to go to school to those private Catholic schools. The education is good but not for the exorbitant tuition costs, much much much cheaper for parents to send their kids to a Public Ivy like UConn, SUNY Binghamton, Rutgers, Penn State, Vermont or Virginia.
What do you, and others, think about the future of FB at BC? They are, other than Notre Dame, the only holdovers as far as Catholic schools still playing " big time" college football. Can they sustain it?
 
What do you, and others, think about the future of FB at BC? They are, other than Notre Dame, the only holdovers as far as Catholic schools still playing " big time" college football. Can they sustain it?

Georgia Tech has the lowest reported (privates don't have to report) revenue for a P5 program at $81.7 million. I assume that Boston College is somewhere between GT and and NC State ($83 million).

If BC can't make it...programs like NC State, Kansas State, Purdue, and Virginia Tech shouldn't be able to either...they are neck and neck with Boston College in terms of athletic revenue.

Tuition at BC is indeed expensive ($50 k)...

Overall, more than 66 percent of Boston College undergraduates receive financial aid with the average need-based package projected to exceed $43,000 in 2017-2018.

Boston College is ranked 35th in the “Best Value Schools” category among national universities by U.S. News & World Report.
 
UMass starting to trend in the right direction and operated a 1/2 Million in the black. Particularly like seeing donation make back to make new records, despite some down years with Football and Basketball.

Article by Mike Traini.
UMass' total athletics revenue for 2017 came in at $48,054,005, and increase of $5,703,094 over their 2016 revenue total. Athletic department expenses also increased in 2017, checking in at $47,535,791. That expense number is an increase of $4,743,511 over their 2016 expenses.

For the 2017 athletic year, UMass operated in the black to the tune of $518,214. That is their first profit since the 2014 athletic year when they made $400,676. Last year the department ran a deficit of -$441,369, and in 2015 their deficit was -$384,938. Last year’s article and figures can be found here.

2017 was the second year in a row where both revenue and expenses came in at over $40 million.
Revisiting some of the individual categories we touched on last year:

UMass’ ticket sales revenue dropped from 2015 to 2016, but it rebounded in 2017 back up to $1,369,717. That is an increase of $175,352 over 2016’s numbers, and while it is not at the level of 2014’s or 2015’s ticket revenue, it is again trending in the right direction.

UMass’ facilities/overhead expenses jumped once again, this time to $7,054,316. That is an increase of $1,207,257 over 2016’s numbers. UMass has been putting a lot of work in over the past several years to both athletic space and academic space intended specifically for athletes, like the new weight room for the hockey team in the recently renovated Mullins Center. This number is sure to continue to rise over the next few years with the department and its programs progressing with improvements.

UMass' allocated funds percentage, or subsidy percentage, was 77.52% in 2017, which is down from 80.88% last year. That is a good sign as there was less money percentage-wise coming from student fees and institutional support than in 2016 (the subsidy and subsidy percentage are calculated based on the amount of athletic department revenue that comes from student fees, institutional support, and state money). UMass was also does not have the highest subsidy percentage inside the Top 63, that belongs to #62 James Madison at 81.14%. In a related piece from Arkansas State’s 247 network site AStateNation.com, they have listed the Group of Five schools from this report in order of self-generated revenue, which is money coming from sources other than students or the school itself. The article, which can be found here, includes that chart at the bottom and shows that UMass ranks #36 among G5 schools listed with $10,804,075 in self-generated revenue last year.

For the second year in a row UMass has reported their highest-ever revenue coming in from contributions at $2,281,046, and it is the first time that number has been over $2 million. That is an increase of $552,455 over 2016’s figure and is up almost $1 million from two years ago. That is a good sign and hopefully the athletic department will continue to see donation numbers rise in both total quantity and dollars.
UMass ranks 63rd in public university athletics revenue in 2017
 
What do you, and others, think about the future of FB at BC? They are, other than Notre Dame, the only holdovers as far as Catholic schools still playing " big time" college football. Can they sustain it?
Of course they can. They can sustain their athletic budget precisely because they have an FBS football program. That's why everyone and his brother wants a successful football program at UConn, Cincinnati, SFU, UCF, and UMass. Not to mention FCS schools like James Madison chomping at the bit to upgrade. Villanova is kicking themselves for not upgrading years ago when they had the chance to, now it's more difficult. If they had upgraded back then, they'd be in the ACC now.
 
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