UH, OH... SI's prediction of where the unsigned top recruits will sign has no UCONN... including Cardosa

[Lawrence]

I hope they all go to Syracuse...

 

[Husky fanatic]

Aaliyah Edwards (Canada) would be a HUGE get for us. She is good enough to be selected to play with the USA FIBA team. For anyone that does not know who she is.

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That would be the Canadian FIBA team

 

[Carnac]

That would be the Canadian FIBA team

Oops, that’s right. I watched the USA - Canada game and remember she played meaningful minutes in that game. ONO was the youngest member of our team.

 

[DaBball]

The way that SAT & ACT scores work for scholarship athletes is that they are calculated on a sliding scale based on how well the student does on their core courses (math, science, English, history, foreign

I hope they all go to Syracuse...

Reese, Cardoso, and Priscilla Williams...now that’s a class!

 

[Vowelguy]

I don't understand why so many continue to repeat the meme that "UConn isn't for everyone."

Uhhhh .... Because it's true.

Geno & CD have a very clear way of doing things, and there will be no bending.
It works for some kids. It doesn't for others.

 

[meyers7]

The one significant piece of information in this article is that Cardosa has yet to qualify for an NCAA scholarship due to a test score? SAT? ACT?

If that is correct, I can easily understand why Geno might have backed off.

Yea, that's what jumped out at me. We don't know why she has yet to qualify, but that could be some kind of flag????

 

[DaBball]

I don't understand why so many continue to repeat the meme that "UConn isn't for everyone." Well, it is for many who want to win national championships. Just don't understand why so many great players give UConn a pass. It's not as if they don't want to be challenged.

And let's not delude ourselves that the players who have committed elsewhere weren't desired by Coach Geno. He has made very clear that he's had a couple of poor recruiting years. Yes, he's bulked up at guard and small forward. But we're still dependent on one true center, which is a vulnerability.

Let's admit where we are, and not sugarcoat it.

We could really use a Cardosa, and if she goes elsewhere, it is their gain and our loss.

There isn’t a single school out there that’s for everyone. There have been 569 transfers from fall of 2018 to summer of 2019. UConn is far from the only school that’s not for everybody.

 

[Vowelguy]

Yea, that's what jumped out at me. We don't know why she has yet to qualify, but that could be some kind of flag????

Speaks Portuguese, now having to learn Tennessean at her school. English might not be so good.

 

[meyers7]

Speaks Portuguese, now having to learn Tennessean at her school. English might not be so good.

That's possible. But we don't really know. And if it is true that her English isn't up to snuff, that could be a flag too???

 

[LoTrader]

SI just let go 40% of its reporting staff
I don't think it's required to take them seriously.

I'm going along with your position of not taking ESPN (or Sports Illustrated) seriously. Some poster over on the Oregon State University blog (Benny's House) has everyone freaking out because he stated ESPN is reporting that Hailey Van Lith has eliminated OSU. There is nothing in the article that states Hailey Van Lith has eliminated OSU. He doesn't include OSU in Hailey Van Lith's final list, but how does he know anything about Hailey Van Lith's final list of schools? I haven't found anywhere that it has been reported that Hailey Van Lith has eliminated any of the 8 universities she previously identified as her top 8.

 

[DaBball]

I'm going along with your position of not taking ESPN (or Sports Illustrated) seriously. Some poster over on the Oregon State University blog (Benny's House) has everyone freaking out because he stated ESPN is reporting that Hailey Van Lith has eliminated OSU. There is nothing in the article that states Hailey Van Lith has eliminated OSU. He doesn't include OSU in Hailey Van Lith's final list, but how does he know anything about Hailey Van Lith's final list of schools? I haven't found anywhere that it has been reported that Hailey Van Lith has eliminated any of the 8 universities she previously identified as her top 8.

He clearly was in touch with Van Lith - he even has a quote from her. OSU is most certainly out of the mix, or else they would have been mentioned.

This is Dan Olson we’re talking about -- the guy who runs the espnW/CGBR rankings...why wouldn’t he be taken seriously?

 

[UConnCat]

It wasn't that long ago that the Louisville staff believed they were on the outside looking in (Baylor) for Hailey Van Lith. Maybe things have changed.

 

[LoTrader]

He clearly was in touch with Van Lith - he even has a quote from her. OSU is most certainly out of the mix, or else they would have been mentioned.

This is Dan Olson we’re talking about -- the guy who runs the espnW/CGBR rankings...why wouldn’t he be taken seriously?

This is the quote: "I'm wide open in my decision," she said. "No one leads. But my plan is to play professionally."

If you go back and look through all Hailey Van Lith's recruiting since early February, 2019, Hailey Van Lith has been completely silent. I'm going to choose to remain optimistic until I see verification that Hailey Van Lith has eliminated any of the 8 schools she had on her list.

Remember when Sabrina just "showed up" at the University of Oregon campus, shortly before school started and told Coach Graves she was going to UO?

 

[oldude]

That's possible. But we don't really know. And if it is true that her English isn't up to snuff, that could be a flag too???

As info, Hamilton Heights Christian in Chattanooga is one of a handful of private schools around the country that find talented international b-ball players looking to earn college scholarships in the US. When I lived in FL, I became very familiar with one such school, Arlington Country Day in Jacksonville, FL. HHC’s girls basketball roster lists 2 players from Chattanooga, 2 from out of state and 7 international players.

These are not Elite college prep schools with high academic standards. Their mission is to bring in these kids, help them develop their game while insuring that they meet the minimum academic standards necessary to earn an athletic scholarship.

There was a lot of discussion some time back from the folks in TN that Cardosa really wanted to attend UConn. With a month to go before NLI’s are signed, if Cardosa has yet to qualify for an athletic scholarship, that has to be a red flag for UConn, and I would not be surprised if Geno backed off her recruitment.

I have great respect for anyone who moves to a foreign country and struggles to learn the language and culture. Ania, Nika and Piath all qualify in that regard, as does Cardosa. I can’t imagine how difficult it would be if I had to move to Brazil and learn Portuguese. Cardosa will very likely eventually qualify for a scholarship and I’m sure she will be a very good player for some team. But it doesn’t look like that team will be UConn.

 

[Sifaka]

Speaks Portuguese, now having to learn Tennessean at her school. English might not be so good.

That's possible. But we don't really know. And if it is true that her English isn't up to snuff, that could be a flag too???

Three years back she spoke no English, so either she is an exceptional langage learner, or .... Here's something I posted back in May, quoting Ms. Cardoso on her lack of English.

Kamilla Cardoso ??

Now that Gusters is gone, is there any indication that Geno and CD will look at Kamilla ??? I'm being curious here...

the-boneyard.com

Here's the pertinent part:

"When she arrived in the U.S. in 2016, she apparently couldn't understand a word of English. "Kamilla desembarcou nos EUA em agosto de 2016. Ela lembra que o começo foi difícil, pois não sabia falar inglês. “No começo foi muito difícil pelo fato de todo mundo falar inglês e eu não entender nada do que estavam falando, mas depois eu comecei a aprender a língua aos poucos até que me adaptei. A minha maior dificuldade era realmente a comunicação com as pessoas."

Kamilla arrived in the U.S. in August of 2016. She remembers a difficult beginning, as she couldn't speak English. 'At first it was very difficult because everyone spoke English and I didn't understand a word, but later I began to learn it...and I adapted. My biggest problem was realy communicating with people.'"

 

[DEpup]

Yea, that's what jumped out at me. We don't know why she has yet to qualify, but that could be some kind of flag????

I would say big red flag. Geno and CD still believe education is still the most important thing so if she is academically challenged, its over.

 

[RockyMTblue2]

Three years back she spoke no English, so either she is an exceptional langage learner, or .... Here's something I posted back in May, quoting Ms. Cardoso on her lack of English.

Kamilla Cardoso ??

Now that Gusters is gone, is there any indication that Geno and CD will look at Kamilla ??? I'm being curious here...

the-boneyard.com

Here's the pertinent part:

"When she arrived in the U.S. in 2016, she apparently couldn't understand a word of English. "Kamilla desembarcou nos EUA em agosto de 2016. Ela lembra que o começo foi difícil, pois não sabia falar inglês. “No começo foi muito difícil pelo fato de todo mundo falar inglês e eu não entender nada do que estavam falando, mas depois eu comecei a aprender a língua aos poucos até que me adaptei. A minha maior dificuldade era realmente a comunicação com as pessoas."

Kamilla arrived in the U.S. in August of 2016. She remembers a difficult beginning, as she couldn't speak English. 'At first it was very difficult because everyone spoke English and I didn't understand a word, but later I began to learn it...and I adapted. My biggest problem was realy communicating with people.'"

on the other hand we have a guard coming who speaks english very well and comes from, comeone someone knows the answer right?

 

[Sluconn Husky]

I'm going along with your position of not taking ESPN (or Sports Illustrated) seriously. Some poster over on the Oregon State University blog (Benny's House) has everyone freaking out because he stated ESPN is reporting that Hailey Van Lith has eliminated OSU. There is nothing in the article that states Hailey Van Lith has eliminated OSU. He doesn't include OSU in Hailey Van Lith's final list, but how does he know anything about Hailey Van Lith's final list of schools? I haven't found anywhere that it has been reported that Hailey Van Lith has eliminated any of the 8 universities she previously identified as her top 8.

There was no report that Cardoso was out for UConn either but apparently that's the case and Olsen knew it. He also knew that Reese had eliminated two schools.

 

[JonathanXIV]

I shouldn’t be surprised at this point, but I’m continually amazed at how many BYers claim to know what our coaching staff thinks. As an example all this “knowing” of a supposed “red flag” about the recruiting of a player based on nothing more than speculation.

 

[oldude]

I shouldn’t be surprised at this point, but I’m continually amazed at how many BYers claim to know what our coaching staff thinks. As an example all this “knowing” of a supposed “red flag” about the recruiting of a player based on nothing more than speculation.

Per ESPN, “Cardosa still needs a test score to become eligible to play on the big stage.”

 

[CocoHusky]

I don't understand why so many continue to repeat the meme that "UConn isn't for everyone." Well, it is for many who want to win national championships. Just don't understand why so many great players give UConn a pass. It's not as if they don't want to be challenged.

And let's not delude ourselves that the players who have committed elsewhere weren't desired by Coach Geno. He has made very clear that he's had a couple of poor recruiting years. Yes, he's bulked up at guard and small forward. But we're still dependent on one true center, which is a vulnerability.
Let's admit where we are, and not sugarcoat it.
We could really use a Cardosa, and if she goes elsewhere, it is their gain and our loss.

UCONN isn't for everyone has been a long established. Don't see a "couple" of poor recruiting years and don't remember Geno admitting to this. How is this for not sugar coating it: If Cardosa wants to come to UCONN she still can. If she chooses not to come to UCONN that's even more proof that " UCONN isn't for everyone".

 

[JonathanXIV]

Per ESPN, “Cardosa still needs a test score to become eligible to play on the big stage.”

Yes, I saw that. But from that one fact numerous individuals have concluded, without any additional evidence, that this is a huge "red flag" for Geno and "explains" UConn's loss of interest in Cardosa. Without any evidence. Call me crazy, but that sounds a lot like speculation to me.

 

[CocoHusky]

Yes, I saw that. But from that one fact numerous individuals have concluded, without any additional evidence, that this is a huge "red flag" for Geno and "explains" UConn's loss of interest in Cardosa. Without any evidence. Call me crazy, but that sounds a lot like speculation to me.

As was previously stated by @oldude being "not eligible" in October of your Senior year, a month away from being able to sign a NLI is definitely a red flag. I agree with @oldude and don't think the speculation is any worst than some I've seen here on the BY.
I bet you $50 Piath Gabriel is eligible.

 

[DEpup]

I shouldn’t be surprised at this point, but I’m continually amazed at how many BYers claim to know what our coaching staff thinks. As an example all this “knowing” of a supposed “red flag” about the recruiting of a player based on nothing more than speculation.

Um. Geno is probably the most straightforward coach ever so if you listen to him speak, he tells you what is important. Through the years I have heard the coaches stress how important academics are, the intelligence of their players, graduation rates, and how successful adults they become so if a recruit has academic challenges then that is a red flag. It's amazing what a boneyarder can learn by just listening.

 

[Papa33]

I agree with . . .oldude .. .and don't think the speculation is any worst than some I've seen here on the BY.

How to damn with faint praise!

 

[airlac4]

Isn’t ND eliminated from the Clark sweepstakes?

Where did you hear ND was out of the running for Clark? Had to ask because I've been reading a lot of rumors on Clark. The Iowa boards are saying ND withdrew their offer but had no source. I've seen other rumors floating around that their chances have dimmed. She still has her OV at ND scheduled for Saturday as far as I know.

 

[airlac4]

Who knows? She took an unoffiicial trip to ND in June and then announced later in the summer that the Irish were one of her final three teams, along with Iowa and Iowa State.

Word then got out that she was scheduled to take an official visit (OV) to South Bend this upcoming weekend (Oct. 11-13), along with Maddy Westbeld and Irish verbal commit Alli Campbell. A report came out a week or so back that she might not take that trip, leading to serious heartburn on The Bench, but nothing further has surfaced.

The Clark household is pretty tight on "information out" and if you read that Olson snippet on her, it's pretty close to the vest, exploring why the Irish would be a good fit, but hedging bets that Caitlin is close to family and she might want to stay close.

I think Olson's take on her basketball fit with ND is right and tight, and Dowling Catholic HS sends a lot of grads to ND, as well. ND is in NW Indiana and Route 80 can get one to/from Iowa relatively quickly.

For this Irish fan, I just hope to see her take the OV and then what happens, happens. Of couse, will cross fingers and think good thoughts. Stay tuned.

p.s. On top of that Maddy Westbeld is headed out to South Bend, finishing up a frenetic last month of OVs. Notre Dame is the last of her finalists (UCLA, Tenn., Louisville, Ohio State) to visit and we're hoping the fifth one is a charm. With Westbeld, we're hoping that she's very much cut from the same cloth as older sister Kat.

Some people over at the Iowa boards seem to think ND withdrew their offer to Clark. I think it's all BS they don't have a source. I agree ND isn't far from Iowa, I hope that distance isn't the deciding factor.

 

[jonson]

This is the quote: "I'm wide open in my decision," she said. "No one leads. But my plan is to play professionally."

If you go back and look through all Hailey Van Lith's recruiting since early February, 2019, Hailey Van Lith has been completely silent. I'm going to choose to remain optimistic until I see verification that Hailey Van Lith has eliminated any of the 8 schools she had on her list.

Remember when Sabrina just "showed up" at the University of Oregon campus, shortly before school started and told Coach Graves she was going to UO?

I really don't think Ionescu is a good analogy, since everyone knew that Oregon was one of her 2 (maybe 3) finalists, but had no clue what school she would finally choose.

On the other hand, despite Olson's reputation and (presumably) inside information, it's difficult for me to imagine that Oregon really belongs on her list of finalists. I'm hardly an insider, but there has very little talk in Eugene about Van Lith and Oregon throughout the past year: Clark and Oregon, for sure, until she eliminated the Ducks, but not Van Lith. And with the addition of Shelley this year, Scher and PaoPao next fall, and Bigsby the year after, I'm not sure why Graves would want another guard, who, as good as she is, doesn't seem to me a substantial upgrade, if any. (I believe that Scher, for one, has a higher ceiling.) That's why I wonder if Olson meant to say Oregon State, not Oregon, and didn't catch the error.

 

[oldude]

Yes, I saw that. But from that one fact numerous individuals have concluded, without any additional evidence, that this is a huge "red flag" for Geno and "explains" UConn's loss of interest in Cardosa. Without any evidence. Call me crazy, but that sounds a lot like speculation to me.

Thanks for allowing me to paraphrase my favorite movie line from Casablanca. “I’m shocked, shocked to find there’s speculation going on in the Boneyard.”

Yes, it is speculation. But I also believe it’s speculation based on information:

- Clearly, UConn’s coaching staff spent time recruiting Cardosa, visiting her and watching her play.
- Also as clear, UConn needs Bigs and would go hard after Cardosa based on her skill set
- UConn was a school that Cardosa was interested in up until recently.
- Per ESPN, Cardosa has not yet qualified for a scholarship.
- Per Cardosa’s HS Coach, she’s not planning to visit UConn.
- Just about the same time UConn and Cardosa lost interest in each other Piath Gabriel showed up on campus without ever once being mentioned as a UConn recruit, and one day after her visit she committed to the Huskies.

I think it’s fair to assume that something occurred that soured the recruiting relationship between UConn and Cardosa. Considering that Cardosa has yet to qualify for a scholarship, I would think that she would very much want to keep open every conceivable opportunity, assuming that she does eventually qualify. At the same time, UConn has 4 commitments from players who do qualify next year, including from two who’s native language is not English.

We are most definitely speculating on much of this. But this is the Boneyard. It’s what we do around here.

 

[oldude]

Thanks for allowing me to paraphrase my favorite movie line from Casablanca. “I’m shocked, shocked to find there’s speculation going on in the Boneyard.”

Yes, it is speculation. But I also believe it’s speculation based on information:

- Clearly, UConn’s coaching staff spent time recruiting Cardosa, visiting her and watching her play.
- Also as clear, UConn needs Bigs and would go hard after Cardosa based on her skill set
- UConn was a school that Cardosa was interested in up until recently.
- Per ESPN, Cardosa has not yet qualified for a scholarship.
- Per Cardosa’s HS Coach, she’s not planning to visit UConn.
- Just about the same time UConn and Cardosa lost interest in each other Piath Gabriel showed up on campus without ever once being mentioned as a UConn recruit, and one day after her visit she committed to the Huskies.

I think it’s fair to assume that something occurred that soured the recruiting relationship between UConn and Cardosa. Considering that Cardosa has yet to qualify for a scholarship, I would think that she would very much want to keep open every conceivable opportunity, assuming that she does eventually qualify. At the same time, UConn has 4 commitments from players who do qualify next year, including from two who’s native language is not English.

We are most definitely speculating on much of this. But this is the Boneyard. It’s what we do around here.

By the way, here’s one additional bit of speculation that feeds the timeline on Cardosa. If she took the SAT’s on the August 24 test date, her scores would have been available between September 9-11.