Uconn vs. BC... next year???

[pj]

Let's chill with the P5 talk, the only reason that happened was Illinois/Indiana begging the B1G HQ to keep us on the sked so they didn't have to buyout the game deals. If we don't have those two future games there is no way we make that list. Sorry just true.

It's 4 games and you are ignoring the fact that they chose to schedule UConn in preference to other schools. They knew this P5 thing was coming when the schedule was made. There's little doubt the B1G office assured them they wouldn't be penalized for scheduling us.

 

[brasssbonanzaa]

The best way possible to "stick" it to BC is to NOT play them next year and make them suffer the embarrassment of being so inept (or afraid) at scheduling that two years in a row they are forced to play TWO 1AA schools!!

It's all a bunch of nonsense talk because UMass has worked hard to put together their independent schedule for next year, the UConn home game will be a great gate for them, and they aren't going to accept any changes. If we are going to "partner" up with anybody I'd rather it be UMass than those pompous dbags in Boston.

This is so maniacally stupid, I can't even figure out how to respond to it. You want us to get out of the AAC, and the way to do that is to piss off a P5 school and "partner" with another who's on the verge of demoting their program back to FCS?

 

[brasssbonanzaa]

Wait, what's the sudden motivation to do this on the part of BC?
And who gets the TV rights of the neutral game?

Their OOC schedule for next season is putrid, right now appears to be Buffalo, UMass, and Northern Illinois. Add in an FCS, and that's disgusting.

 

[Exit 4]

Their OOC schedule for next season is putrid, right now appears to be Buffalo, UMass, and Northern Illinois. Add in an FCS, and that's disgusting.

Interesting, so they have asked for us to bump our UMass series to make room for a UConn game to save their bacon. I'm willing to play ball if we get a fair deal which means 50/50 gate at a neutral site or a 1 and 1 series with no buyouts. No chestnut hill one off visits.

 

[businesslawyer]

Interesting, so they have asked for us to bump our UMass series to make room for a UConn game to save their bacon. I'm willing to play ball if we get a fair deal which means 50/50 gate at a neutral site or a 1 and 1 series with no buyouts. No chestnut hill one off visits.

I disagree. Would I sign a deal with BC just to play at Chestnut Hill. No, but that's not really what is going on here. Would I give up a road game I've already committed to with UMASS and substitute it for a road game at BC (remembering I've already then gotten UMass to the Rent) -- why wouldn't I?

That's the choice. WE have an existing deal that gives us a road game in MA. Why wouldn't we rather be at BC than UMASS at Foxboro? Just out of spite?

 

[gioff23]

I don't disagree w/BL, I just think that when you are in position to extract value you do. If I am Warde, I am asking what else - and it need not be FB. I'll drop Umass and replace w/BC, but I am asking for far more before I hang up.

 

[brasssbonanzaa]

I disagree. Would I sign a deal with BC just to play at Chestnut Hill. No, but that's not really what is going on here. Would I give up a road game I've already committed to with UMASS and substitute it for a road game at BC (remembering I've already then gotten UMass to the Rent) -- why wouldn't I?

That's the choice. WE have an existing deal that gives us a road game in MA. Why wouldn't we rather be at BC than UMASS at Foxboro? Just out of spite?

Well, this is where using our position (helping BC out of a hole) in the negotiation comes into play. From what I understand we wouldn't be giving up the UMass road game, we'd be moving it to another season. BC needs help filling out their schedule so they're (theoretically) coming to us for help. It's not an outrageous request to say the game has to be one-off split gate at Gillette or a home and home. Taking one game at Chestnut Hill would be essentially using no bargaining power whatsoever.

 

[Jimmy Serrano]

I disagree. Would I sign a deal with BC just to play at Chestnut Hill. No, but that's not really what is going on here. Would I give up a road game I've already committed to with UMASS and substitute it for a road game at BC (remembering I've already then gotten UMass to the Rent) -- why wouldn't I?

That's the choice. WE have an existing deal that gives us a road game in MA. Why wouldn't we rather be at BC than UMASS at Foxboro? Just out of spite?

I took flack over the summer for stating that I'd take some 2-for-1 deals with some TOP echelon P5 teams. BC is nowhere near that level where I'd give up all of our self respect for a one off game in Chestnut Hill. It's not worth it. And, them.

 

[Exit 4]

I disagree. Would I sign a deal with BC just to play at Chestnut Hill. No, but that's not really what is going on here. Would I give up a road game I've already committed to with UMASS and substitute it for a road game at BC (remembering I've already then gotten UMass to the Rent) -- why wouldn't I?

That's the choice. WE have an existing deal that gives us a road game in MA. Why wouldn't we rather be at BC than UMASS at Foxboro? Just out of spite?

There are no perfect arguments here. Personally, I want two bites at the BC apple and I think we have the leverage in this situation to make it happen. I feel like a one and done game just works too well for BC. They should be subject to the indignity of playing UConn at the Rent! Or meeting us for one game at a neutral site.

Otherwise, yes - I would rather keep the schedule we have and play UMass. BC is not Notre Dame, not Penn State or Michigan either.

So yes, bottomline, I'll take the UMass game vs a single chestnut hill visit.

 

[PRHusky]

I don't understand why some people are concerned about UConn possibly signing a deal to play a single game @BC. That is not happening. If we sign a deal to play them it will be a home and home, a 2 for 2 or a home, away, neutral site series.

Since going DI-A UConn has only signed one "money game" and that was @ Notre Dame. I do not see that changing for as long as we are able to sign series with Power 5 conference teams.

 

[Exit 4]

I took flack over the summer for stating that I'd take some 2-for-1 deals with some TOP echelon P5 teams. BC is nowhere near that level where I'd give up all of our self respect for a one off game in Chestnut Hill. It's not worth it. And, them.

I rarely agree with you - but I am with you on this one. BC is not big time and so, we shouldn't give them the one and done visit like you would accept from a top program.

 

[Husky25]

Gillette Stadium's capacity is 68K. I seriously think a UConn-BC game could sell that out considering how large the fan bases are in the region.

If that happens, watch how fast these schools get a home-and-home on the books.

If neither UConn (<40,000), nor BC (~44,500), can sell out their own stadiums, I don't foresee Gillette making all 68,756 seats available for a neutral site game. I posted about it yesterday.

 

[BugsyCT]

http://www.theuconnblog.com/2015/10/1/9432661/boston-college-and-uconn-in-talks-to-play-football

 

[brasssbonanzaa]

I rarely agree with you - but I am with you on this one. BC is not big time and so, we shouldn't give them the one and done visit like you would accept from a top program.

I agree we shouldn't give in and do that. But I don't think, if BC's scheduling situation is as it's been portrayed, they'd reject all proposals, including a single neutral game. But I agree, if BC is so stingy as they won't even agree to scheduling one neutral game with us, walk away. Our schedule is beefed up enough that we don't NEED the game to add a strong opponent. They do.

 

[Exit 4]

I agree we shouldn't give in and do that. But I don't think, if BC's scheduling situation is as it's been portrayed, they'd reject all proposals, including a single neutral game. But I agree, if BC is so stingy as they won't even agree to scheduling one neutral game with us, walk away. Our schedule is beefed up enough that we don't NEED the game to add a strong opponent. They do.

Right and in some way if that is how it plays out (they only will accept a BC home game) - then it goes to show BC's view of UConn hasn't really changed. They want everything on their terms and that's it.

 

[brasssbonanzaa]

Right and in some way if that is how it plays out (they only will accept a BC home game) - then it goes to show BC's view of UConn hasn't really changed. They want everything on their terms and that's it.

The thing is, I don't suspect that would be the case. My gut is if they're intent on playing us in Chestnut Hill next year, Warde would be able to get a game in East Hartford down the line. If not, he can walk away with UVA, Illinois, Indiana, Missouri, and Syracuse all scheduled to play on our field before the end of the decade. Currently, BC has one game with Notre Dame and that's it. But they do have a combined five home games against Holy Cross, Buffalo, and Richmond.

 

[tduconn]

There are no perfect arguments here. Personally, I want two bites at the BC apple and I think we have the leverage in this situation to make it happen. I feel like a one and done game just works too well for BC. They should be subject to the indignity of playing UConn at the Rent! Or meeting us for one game at a neutral site.

Otherwise, yes - I would rather keep the schedule we have and play UMass. BC is not Notre Dame, not Penn State or Michigan either.

So yes, bottomline, I'll take the UMass game vs a single chestnut hill visit.

UMass is not Notre Dame, Penn State, or Michigan either. We don't have any leverage to dictate terms. UConnFB is still poorly ranked in FBS standings. So we'd rather beat a team a few years removed from FCS, as opposed to a P-5 team?

Really? Does anyone think UMass/UConn has a remote chance of exciting casual FB fans......even in New England?

A win over UMass does not improve UConn's resume. There is still a chance UConn can loose to UMass.

I say beat BC and let them come crawling to us for future contests. Then we have some leverage.

 

[UConn9604]

Gillette Stadium's capacity is 68K. I seriously think a UConn-BC game could sell that out considering how large the fan bases are in the region.

If that happens, watch how fast these schools get a home-and-home on the books.

You really think our traveling fan base is 67,000 strong?

 

[Dooley]

I wouldn't sign up for a 1 and done at their place either. There is no question that I would go to the game at Chestnut Hill (I'm guessing we would bring 5-8K), but if I'm Warde, I do not accept a 1 off game at BC. For an upper tier FBS program (Notre Dame, LSU, Ohio St, Michigan, Bama, etc) I would sign up for 1 road game. Not BC. They're struggling to sell tickets and they are a winning program in a P5 conference. More than likely, we bring a sellout - something FSU or USC couldn't even do. I'm not signing up for anything that means giving our $$ to BC without something in return. I don't need a game at the Rent, but I do need at least a 50/50 gate split game at Fenway or Gillette. If they can't compromise to those (more than) reasonable terms, then let them go re-schedule Howard or Vermont.

 

[brasssbonanzaa]

UMass is not Notre Dame, Penn State, or Michigan either. We don't have any leverage to dictate terms. UConnFB is still poorly ranked in FBS standings. So we'd rather beat a team a few years removed from FCS, as opposed to a P-5 team?

Really? Does anyone think UMass/UConn has a remote chance of exciting casual FB fans.even in New England?

A win over UMass does not improve UConn's resume. There is still a chance UConn can loose to UMass.

I say beat BC and let them come crawling to us for future contests. Then we have some leverage.

We do have leverage though, because BC needs to increase the difficulty of their schedule next season and in the near future, we don't. We agree to help them with that next season and in return they come play us. They say no, we say OK sounds good and stand pat where we are. I don't suspect it'll get that far. The quote from the article says they need us to play there next year and that Brad Bates likes the idea of the three regional teams playing each other regularly, meaning this isn't a one game and peace out kind of discussion.

 

[Dooley]

You really think our traveling fan base is 67,000 strong?

We wouldn't have to be. All we have to be is at least 33,500 strong. We get those crowds at the Rent for games against meh opponents. If we can't bring something close to 30K to Gillette for a game that every single UConn fan has salivated over for a decade, then we deserve our AAC sentence.

 

[Perfect Hair]

This is so maniacally stupid, I can't even figure out how to respond to it. You want us to get out of the AAC, and the way to do that is to piss off a P5 school and "partner" with another who's on the verge of demoting their program back to FCS?

It's so maniacally stupid you can't figure it out evidently.

1. You have never heard me utter one word about getting out of the AAC. Because that's a pipe dream for now and a waste of time to worry about.
2. You're obviously also too dumb to know that BC is already pissed at us, they've been pissed at us, and that is not going to change. If you don't know why they are then do some homework.
3. UMass is not demoting their program back to anything, you sound like a genius by spewing that. Face facts, they more than likely will be a fellow AAC member in the next couple of years. I'd say the liklihood of that is probably about 50 times greater than the B1G or Big 12 "rescuing" us from the AAC.

 

[DarthGrumpy]

Also, keep in mind that it maybe hard to swallow; but, helping BC a bit can only help UConn should the ACC look to expand, say ND is added as a full-time member and thus they need a #16. Prefer the B1G; but, the ACC is a heck of a lot better than where UConn is today.

 

[FartMan69]

I don't care about politics or "saving BC's schedule" I just know they're a P5 team we have a history with and would be an entertaining watch no matter where or how many times we play them. I'm down.

 

[NYUConn]

You really think our traveling fan base is 67,000 strong?

I see what you did there...and I like it!

 

[UConn9604]

We wouldn't have to be. All we have to be is at least 33,500 strong. We get those crowds at the Rent for games against meh opponents. If we can't bring something close to 30K to Gillette for a game that every single UConn fan has salivated over for a decade, then we deserve our AAC sentence.

I was joking - implying that BC has a traveling fan base of 1,000, so we'd need to bring 67,000 in order to fill Gillette at 68,000.

 

[Dooley]

Also, keep in mind that it maybe hard to swallow; but, helping BC a bit can only help UConn should the ACC look to expand, say ND is added as a full-time member and thus they need a #16.

^ This would be the absolute only reason UConn would accept a 1 off game at their place. If it helps us get out of the AAC, then do it.

My terms:
- we play 1 road game at BC in exchange for their vote (and end to their tireless kack blocking) in ACC expansion;
- we play at their place next year in exchange for a 50/50 neutral game at Gillette/Fenway;
- we play at their place next year in exchange for a game at the Rent

Any of those would be agreeable to me.

 

[specialisthusky]

I'd play them next year, even in a one off game, if it meant having a chance to run those pompous overrated dbags off their own field on national television.

Of course I'd prefer a home and home so we can do it again in East Hartford the next year but I'm not passing on an opportunity to beat BC in any sport if I am the AD.

 

[Dooley]

I was joking - implying that BC has a traveling fan base of 1,000, so we'd need to bring 67,000 in order to fill Gillette at 68,000.

Ah, my bad man. I get too fired up when I talk BC that the good jokes go right over my head.

 

[brasssbonanzaa]

3. UMass is not demoting their program back to anything, you sound like a genius by spewing that.

http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsport...-for-life-as-an-independent-but-for-how-long/
http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaaf/2014/03/26/mid-american-conference-football/6918677/
https://www.bostonglobe.com/sports/...ss-football/8Zh7LNm9RkrxgumwLLZOkO/story.html
https://www.bostonglobe.com/opinion...ap-football/mV8os8TFtXfAOTlZOkv5II/story.html

How many more would you like?