UConn to the NBE?

[upstater]

To CT sports writers:

UConn is good at football

It's all good now

If a recruit reads this board and decides not to come here because of negative posts then we don’t want him.

It's not a negative post about UConn football. It's a post that says UConn football will soon cease to exist.

 

[gampelcrazies]

It's not a negative post about UConn football. It's a post that says UConn football will soon cease to exist.

Ok. Even better. If you trust a message board over the coach recruiting you about the future of the program then there’s a problem.

 

[Guapo]

Lol imagine if this actually turns out to be true and this is how the world first heard of it?

 

[Dooley]

If a recruit reads this board and decides not to come here because of negative posts then we don’t want him.

Recruits aren't making decisions based on message board threads. But other schools' coaches use whatever they can - legal or illegal - to recruit a kid. And you better believe that the divide in UConn's fanbase over this topic hurts us in recruiting...which is why we have nBE fans coming to our boards to stir this nonsense up every now and again.

These threads all belong in the BY spam/junk box. Seriously. No good comes from it.

 

[upstater]

Ok. Even better. If you trust a message board over the coach recruiting you about the future of the program then there’s a problem.

Yes and no. The coach will never tell you about the future of the program when it comes to this. & in the past, the coach was sometimes the last to know!! That being said, this whole rumor isn't even credible. It's preposterous. The AD would have been gone already if this was even remotely possible.

 

[huskymedic]

 

[gampelcrazies]

Recruits aren't making decisions based on message board threads. But other schools' coaches use whatever they can - legal or illegal - to recruit a kid. And you better believe that the divide in UConn's fanbase over this topic hurts us in recruiting...which is why we have nBE fans coming to our boards to stir this nonsense up every now and again.

These threads all belong in the BY spam/junk box. Seriously. No good comes from it.

Well I have some advice for the football team. WIN. If you start winning you won't have to worry about other schools using message board posts against us in recruiting.

We aren't having these discussions because New Big East fans stir the pot. We are having these discussions because football has been a joke for almost 10 years now. UCONN IS A BASKETBALL SCHOOL! And the New Big East is a better fit for UConn basketball.

 

[whaler11]

If message board posts really impacted recruiting 58% of the internet would be people pretending to be fans of other schools and posting negative things about them.

If message board posts had any impact UConn wouldn’t be employing ticket agents who pick fights with fans.

The vast majority of people who don’t post on message boards believe us to be complete idiots who don’t have any clue what we are talking about. Trust me - this circle jerk is not changing the world.

 

[Guapo]

#keytweet

 

[ToolzieFan]

Temple was way worse off than UConn is not so long ago.

Teams drop off. It is not a permanent thing.

Fair point. I hope they rebound.

 

[UConn Dan]

The ultra reliable "good news soon" poster Kmart seconds this information so we all know this must true

So based on Kmart posting "good news" in the UConn to the NBE? thread this morning looks like he's hitching his wagon to that happening.

It's not going to happen stop trying to make the new big east happen.

Oh UConnDan no hitching

In your original "Good News" post you said "all basketball fans will be happy." I'm a basketball fan and if this happens, I will not be happy. It would be the death knell of our AD. I'm calling the cops

 

[Hoophound]

The posts on this board have time and time again served as the basis for articles in the Courant or elsewhere that completely rile the fan base and the non-fans alike, shining an unnecessary light on the football program. Inevitably, the discussion is misinformed and makes UConn athletics look like a drain on the state when really, the programs are funded by the AD and student fees.

 

[Stainmaster]

Well I have some advice for the football team. WIN. If you start winning you won't have to worry about other schools using message board posts against us in recruiting.

We aren't having these discussions because New Big East fans stir the pot. We are having these discussions because football has been a joke for almost 10 years now. UCONN IS A BASKETBALL SCHOOL! And the New Big East is a better fit for UConn basketball.

There is no future for “basketball schools.”

 

[gampelcrazies]

There is no future for “basketball schools.”

People have been saying this for 10 years now. Far from the truth

 

[Stainmaster]

People have been saying this for 10 years now. Far from the truth

So that prevents it from ever being true in the future? You’re really making UConn’s young alumni look good with those reasoning skills.

 

[Guapo]

There is no future for “basketball schools.”

I’m not agreeing or disagreeing with this statement; but, I think put into larger context; there are just as many, if not more people, who think the future of college football is on just as shaky ground.

Honestly the future of college sports - and higher ed as a whole, as we know it - is uncertain.

 

[gampelcrazies]

So that prevents it from ever being true in the future? You’re really making UConn’s young alumni look good with those reasoning skills.

I've been hearing for years that the p5 teams are going to breakaway. When is it going to happen?

 

[UConn Dan]

I've been hearing for years that the p5 teams are going to breakaway. When is it going to happen?

They essentially already have... look at the monetary disparity. Non P5 won't be able to keep up with salaries, facilities, etc.

 

[upstater]

I’m not agreeing or disagreeing with this statement; but, I think put into larger context; there are just as many, if not more people, who think the future of college football is on just as shaky ground.

Honestly the future of college sports - and higher ed as a whole, as we know it - is uncertain.

Just wondering: if there's no Higher Ed., then... what replaces it?

 

[upstater]

I've been hearing for years that the p5 teams are going to breakaway. When is it going to happen?

You don't see the irony in asking this question in a thread about dismantling the football team?

We are fast moving to pay-for-play. Schools are going to start surrendering.

 

[Guapo]

Just wondering: if there's no Higher Ed., then... what replaces it?

I’m not saying higher ed will go away, far from it. I think there’s a chance that it transitions away from the classic campus-based experience and towards more online classes.

Furthermore, I think we’re going to see more and more smaller, expensive private schools fade away. Which helps @Stainmaster ’s point, although it really has nothing to do with the football/basketball school split.

 

[uconnell]

this will end well....

NOT

 

[Husky25]

I've been hearing for years that the p5 teams are going to breakaway. When is it going to happen?

In what way? From whom?

"Power 5" is a football term. In a perfect world, should the schools making up those conferences break away from the auspices of the NCAA, they will should also forfeit access to the NCAA basketball tournament (the event from which the NCAA makes more than a fair portion of their money), and will probably need to pay the players a far sight more than a stipend for books an/or housing. This is the very moment where the business model fails. This is the very moment where "college" is crossed out in favor of the term "minor league." Don't think the powers that be aren't the least bit cognizant of that.

 

[Stainmaster]

In what way? From whom?

"Power 5" is a football term. In a perfect world, should the schools making up those conferences break away from the auspices of the NCAA, they will should also forfeit access to the NCAA basketball Tournament(the event from which the NCAA makes more than a fair portion of their money), and will probably need to pay the players a far sight more than a stipend for books an/or housing. This is the very moment where the business model fails. This is the very moment where "college" is crossed out in favor of the term "minor league." Don't think the powers that be aren't the least bit cognizant of that.

They’ll have their own postseason tournament and full control over the media rights. They also shouldn’t have problems with ponying up for players and providing them with significant benefits. That’s why they’ve been taking steps to separate themselves already.

 

[FriarJ]

They essentially already have... look at the monetary disparity. Non P5 won't be able to keep up with salaries, facilities, etc.

I'm wondering when this will happen, (It very well could) but all I know is that since the split and all the impending doom; PC with an enrollment lower than some high schools, have 10K season ticket holders including half the entire student body. Pay their coach $3m a year and have a facility to rival any P5 in the entire country. I simply have a tough time grasping any of these items I mentioned being real but they are.

It's all about leadership and always has been (this applies to UConn as well), under Brian Shanley they took what was a okay campus that had a commuter feel to it when I was there and turned it into a magnificently beautiful campus with a park like feel that does not even remotely resemble what it was even 15 years ago. And during this time athletics came to perform at a level at the very top of any school that does not have football. None of this happens without the BE, not one single thing.

 

[nelsonmuntz]

People have been predicting the death of the Big East since it split. The only thing that is dying is UConn's athletic program. In a stunning development, joining a southern mid-major conference focused on football and led by compass schools with massive enrollments was a bad fit for UConn sports. Who could have predicted that?

 

[Stainmaster]

People have been predicting the death of the Big East since it split. The only thing that is dying is UConn's athletic program. In a stunning development, joining a southern mid-major conference focused on football and led by compass schools with massive enrollments was a bad fit for UConn sports. Who could have predicted that?

People predict many things that didn’t come true immediately. What does that have to do with anything?

 

[Guapo]

In what way? From whom?

"Power 5" is a football term. In a perfect world, should the schools making up those conferences break away from the auspices of the NCAA, they will should also forfeit access to the NCAA basketball tournament (the event from which the NCAA makes more than a fair portion of their money), and will probably need to pay the players a far sight more than a stipend for books an/or housing. This is the very moment where the business model fails. This is the very moment where "college" is crossed out in favor of the term "minor league." Don't think the powers that be aren't the least bit cognizant of that.

I'm wondering when this will happen, (It very well could) but all I know is that since the split and all the impending doom; PC with an enrollment lower than some high schools, have 10K season ticket holders including half the entire student body. Pay their coach $3m a year and have a facility to rival any P5 in the entire country. I simply have a tough time grasping any of these items I mentioned being real but they are.

It's all about leadership and always has been (this applies to UConn as well), under Brian Shanley they took what was a okay campus that had a commuter feel to it when I was there and turned it into a magnificently beautiful campus with a park like feel that does not even remotely resemble what it was even 15 years ago. And during this time athletics came to perform at a level at the very top of any school that does not have football. None of this happens without the BE, not one single thing.

The “Power 5” are not going to break away. This exists only as a matter of fact out come on the Boneyard - and not a single place else.

 

[Husky25]

They’ll have their own postseason tournament and full control over the media rights. They also shouldn’t have problems with ponying up for players and providing them with significant benefits. That’s why they’ve been taking steps to separate themselves already.

They can take whatever steps they want up to, but excluding, separation because the moment they do, the players will no longer be considered "amateur" on paper and media money will dry up, because interest will dry up. In North America, spectator sports are popular because those playing them are the best. The NBA are the best basketball players in the world. NHL? The same. MLB? The best. NFL? No contest. People watch college football because the players are the best under a ceiling that prevents them from try their talents in the NFL until 3 years after high school graduation.

NCAA revenue generating sports are a pro feeder system. Why would the NFL pay for free development? Even the NBA said absolutely not to 18 year old kids making 8 figures. Prove a year in the G League (A pittance of coins, but no exposure) or as a Duke freshman (exposure with potential for windfall.).

A league tried to become the NFL's farm system a few months ago, and one is about to within the next few. Both were and are looking for some sort of adoption by the NFL, who told (are telling) them to pi$$ up a rope. Heck, the NFL disbanded their own farm system (NFL Europe) because better and younger talent was coming out of college.

In a perfect world, that would not change. Otherwise, you get what you have between MiLB and the AHL vs. the college system, where neither the minor leagues nor the college conferences get the fat media rights, because he best players are scattered throughout multiple leagues.

Right now, the P5 are pigs. They complete the severe? They instantaneously become hogs.

I guess all that being said, if UConn does not get a spot along the trough AND the P5 remain pigs, then yeah. I hope the P5 does separate. Blow the whole thing up.

 

[Adios]

To CT sports writers:

UConn is good at football

It's all good now

If a recruit reads this board and decides not to come here because of negative posts then we don’t want him.

Um, people come here and set the vibe for the programs. Waaaaaaa! Georgetown! Waaaaaaa! While the best kids want to play for P5 schools as proven over and over again.

Remember there was an article about dropping football in the Courant not long ago because of douchenozzles like you?