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ElGuapo said:
Could this typo about supporting "out" athletes be a nod to BYU's troubles?

"I know people roll their eyes at this, but this is supposed to be fun. You know the athletes are in it because they enjoy it. The fans go because they want to support out athletes and they enjoy it. So everyone, including presidents and deans and faculty, need to step back and remember why we are in it."

I kid, I kid... Or do I?
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Eunuchs don't get to have fun, they watch others having it.
 
ConnHuskBask said:
Replace ACC with Big 12, wash, rinse and repeat.

This is maddening. I don't watch UConn sports to see coeds engage in an extracurricular activity. I watch UConn because they are my team, my university and I want to see them compete on the national stage in games that actually matter.

Perception does matter; no matter what anyone says. Instead of the bs we win, we have fun, we like to win, how about actually shaping the public perception as opposed to taking a beating.

From the National media you would be led to believe Houston is a perennial top 10 team, that sells out a brand new stadium and is ready to expand the joint, or that Cincinnati brings a storied football and basketball history and is slughtly behind Ohio State in Ohio.

It's not groveling or begging to just state the facts. We own the 30th biggest media market (23rd if you add fairfield county) as the state U. We are neck and neck with Duke, UK, UNC as the preeminent hoop program of the last 30 years. We have begun to rebuild our football program which won a league with five supposed "P5" programs and the storied Cincinnati program twice in our infancy.

Not to mention we spend the most, we make the most and we our by far the best academic school.

Why can't someone from the university sternly acknowledge that.

Not to drive the Warde donuts narrative (as I'm overall pro WM) but during the ACC expansion when they interviewed him and all he could come up with is " I think we're the best candidate but I'm biased" it drove me insane.

Perception is everything and ours in a few short years is shot with this G5 distinction. Someone needs to step up and get this done.
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Yep. Even managing not to essentially repeat the inane words from trying placate us after the ACC took a glorified community college over us would have been a better move.

It's like Hilary mentioning a word that rhymes with snowknobs - it's going to pop into people's heads awfully quick.
 
By far and away the best thing about the CR board is: That a lack of
evidence is used as evidence.

I guess it would be pathetic to have the President of the University say more in public than we are a winning bunch of winners that win and have winning fun while doing it.

God forbid the administration act as if they have any ownership. If they stick with winning winners who win and hey the ball is in their court - never have to be accountable for the end result.
 
I'll be happy when the whole conferences realignment is over so we can all just enjoy watching UConn football. If are lot in life is to carry the AAC banner then so be it. It's college athletics, not life or death. Yeah it might not be fair but so what. Nobody ever said life was fair. The sun will come up tomorrow and UConn will continue to field athletic teams.
 
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I'm curious if this topic came up in the scope of another story/discussion or was the the Education reporter for the Courant sent to discuss Conference Realignment w/ SH? Just one of those things that make me go hmmm.

Kathleen Megan
 
This quote from Boren is from March 2016, but I think he still believes it and UConn is doing what they want...

ct06111 said:
http://newsok.com/how-david-boren-f...rss&utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

On potential expansion targets: “We’re all talking with each other. We’ve agreed not to speculate about any one school or another school that might get in. But we have some good choices. We’ve all agreed to be very confidential about schools. We don’t want to let some school{Cincinnati, BYU, Houston} get a lot of publicity and they’re ‘oh, they’re about to get in the Big 12,’ and maybe they don’t get in. We don’t want to have any of that. So we’re trying to keep that all in-house.”
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In a few months we'll have the answer.

If we get in, then our stoic demeanor now means that playing it cool was the right thing to do. Herbst will have proven herself a measured, disciplined leader, and UConn athletics is set for at least the next 10 years.
If we're not in, then failing to play the game like Cincy, Houston, Memphis, etc. will have backfired, Herbst will have proven herself tone-deaf and weak, and UConn athletics is finished.

For now it's all just speculation.
 
UConn athletics will not be finished. They will still be playing D1 athletics. It might not be a power league but it will still be D1. People just need to relax and continue supporting UConn athletics. Let's be real, we probably have a better chance of qualifying for a bowl game in the AAC than we would in any P5 league. And you're kidding yourself if you think UConn would ever make the 4 team playoff in football.
 
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Santini35 said:
I just wish the headline was a different tone, that is was more like "UConn letting accomplishments speak for themselves" instead of a "were not even gonna try" tone that the Courant seems to put on it
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mentioned elsewhere but a fail by reporter for not asking about the video presentations thing she mentions in the story. 99.9 percent SH says "not going to comment on any efforts" blah blah blah. Can only image the reaction here if she said "no we haven't nor will we be doing any presentations."
 
TRest said:
Yeah, let's go have fun in the CAA. It's the unwillingness to address our tenuous position in the national landscape that drove me nuts when we got passed over the last time. Most of our competitors have taken on facility upgrades with the express purpose to make themselves more attractive in the next round of realignment. We seem to be resting on our laurels. And I know the difference between perception and reality, just do something different to change the perception.
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Are you kidding me? Get your head out of the sand. UConn and the state have spent millions facilities ($90M rent; $50M football complex ; $30M bb complex. And they've hired numerous dept staff.). Put YOUR money where your mouth is a donate to athletics and get your butt at the games. And stop winning!
 
CTBballfan243 said:
UConn athletics will not be finished. They will still be playing D1 athletics. It might not be a power league but it will still be D1. People just need to relax and continue supporting UConn athletics. Let's be real, we probably have a better chance of qualifying for a bowl game in the AAC than we would in any P5 league. And you're kidding yourself if you think UConn would ever make the 4 team playoff in football.
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Post + Handle = Head bang
 
CTBballfan243 said:
UConn athletics will not be finished. They will still be playing D1 athletics. It might not be a power league but it will still be D1. People just need to relax and continue supporting UConn athletics. Let's be real, we probably have a better chance of qualifying for a bowl game in the AAC than we would in any P5 league. And you're kidding yourself if you think UConn would ever make the 4 team playoff in football.
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Bring on the banhammer.
 
CTBballfan243 said:
UConn athletics will not be finished. They will still be playing D1 athletics. It might not be a power league but it will still be D1. People just need to relax and continue supporting UConn athletics. Let's be real, we probably have a better chance of qualifying for a bowl game in the AAC than we would in any P5 league. And you're kidding yourself if you think UConn would ever make the 4 team playoff in football.
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I'm not sure many people in the country aside from a few fan bases actually measure success by making the 4 team playoff.

Could UConn ever challenge for a conference title though? Who knows, Wake, Kansas, among others have made BCS games in the past. Hell, WE'VE made a BCS game in the past.

Figthing top programs for bowls is what its all about. To put a ceiling on our program after 15 years when we've already accomplished a lot is way premature.
 
Santini35 said:
I just wish the headline was a different tone, that is was more like "UConn letting accomplishments speak for themselves" instead of a "were not even gonna try" tone that the Courant seems to put on it
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Interesting take:

Greg Welch@ArtDirectorBYU 1 hour ago
This is why it's tough to say anything. UConn says we're going to let B12 decide and gets "we won't lobby" headline.

Greg Welch@ArtDirectorBYU1 hour ago
You say something like "we don't need the governor writing tweets for us" and it turns into "UConn isn't trying/doesn't care."
 
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Irish Loop said:
You hear that, Herbst? Whaler's loyalty is conditional upon your performance rating. Oh, sure, you might think it's unfair to judge you based on things out of your control, like the past failures of former Athletic Directors or the thousands of miles of distance from the B12, but none of that matters -- what matters is that our continued fandom is contingent upon your success. We will hold this program hostage! That's how good of fans we are.

All kidding aside, I have no problem with this statement. We're a long shot here, and she knows it. I don't think #begharder is a real strategy. You present your excellence to the best of your ability and accept that you can't control all of the variables, and remind yourself that what matters most isn't pleasing the Whalers of the world, but making sure you provide a world class athletic and educational experience for these kids.

If you do that, you create excellence, and all the rest follows. We didn't start off as champions of the Big East. We became that because we strive for excellence. And that's what matters. If you do that, the success follows.
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Hear, hear!!!!
 
sportsart said:
To those who wish UConn did more public pleading. I'm sure the presidents of the Big 12 are meeting and asking "OK, so who has pleaded and begged the most? Great....if the others can't bother to grovel and kiss our a.s.s then they're out." :rolleyes:

Enough already. UConn has a storied athletic history, with great academics that everyone in the Big 12 already knows about. The schools that are begging are trying to paint a picture that is not really what they are.

By the way...thanks for ANOTHER thread. :rolleyes:
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Well said. If the Big 12 puts the majority of the emphasis on football pedigree and current football perception then UConn doesn't get in. But if the Big 12 looks at the pictur: overall athletic program success, size of athletic program in terms of revenue, brand exposure and recognition, facilities, market size and growth for conference, academics, and athletic growth potential then UConn has a great shot at being selected. DONATE TO UCONN ATHLETICS! I DO!
 
This is crazy. I thought that was a bad ass interview.

Them. We win championships. We have great academics. We own a state. We are relevant in Boston. We are relevant in NYC. We bring swagger, clutch performances, professional athletes, credibility.

They want us, come get us. We'll be here killing it in the meantime.

Good for suzie

you are a bunch of pansies sometimes...nut up
 
huskymedic said:
Interesting take:

Greg Welch@ArtDirectorBYU 1 hour ago
This is why it's tough to say anything. UConn says we're going to let B12 decide and gets "we won't lobby" headline.

Greg Welch@ArtDirectorBYU1 hour ago
You say something like "we don't need the governor writing tweets for us" and it turns into "UConn isn't trying/doesn't care."
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Great. At least the art director is on our side.
 
Tenspro2002 said:
In a few months we'll have the answer.

If we get in, then our stoic demeanor now means that playing it cool was the right thing to do. Herbst will have proven herself a measured, disciplined leader, and UConn athletics is set for at least the next 10 years.
If we're not in, then failing to play the game like Cincy, Houston, Memphis, etc. will have backfired, Herbst will have proven herself tone-deaf and weak, and UConn athletics is finished.

For now it's all just speculation.
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Yes it's that simple... Please. Yelling and screaming in public and publically lobbying is going to get UConn into the Big 12. I don't think you understand the complexity of expansion. Susan is anything but weak. Trust me I've spent time with her. She gets it. DONATE TO ATHLETICS and show you do too.
 
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This is insane. You guys who subscribe to the Courant might want to add your comments. Saying we are respectful of B12's process is one thing, but saying we are not even trying is very bad for our own fanbase.

I can't stand the AAC. I am sure many other UCONN fans feel the same way. It would be a joke to subject UCONN to the AAC for the next 8 years, and expect our fanbase to support that. Back in the BE, I used to get up early on SATs looking forward to the UCONN game. Now, the interest is dwindling as we play against teams we got zero in common with. AAC schools are not on the same level as we are, but we have to play them because we are in the AAC.

Susie better be trying her hardest to get into the B12 or any P5 conference. Saying we are not even trying is very bad for the morale of the fanbase.
 
whaler11 said:
By far and away the best thing about the CR board is: That a lack of
evidence is used as evidence.

I guess it would be pathetic to have the President of the University say more in public than we are a winning bunch of winners that win and have winning fun while doing it.

God forbid the administration act as if they have any ownership. If they stick with winning winners who win and hey the ball is in their court - never have to be accountable for the end result.
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You're a buffoon. You know as well as anyone that getting into a stronger conference is as much of a priority for UConn leadership as anything. That they aren't approaching it in a way you would prefer should tell you that perhaps, just perhaps, you're not an expert in how to appeal to university presidents. If they think these are the best moves they can make, then these are the moves they should make. But make no mistake: whatever the administration is doing is the thing they expect gives them they best chance to get into a stronger conference.
 
Penfield said:
Yeah we haven't upgraded our facilities (Burton, Worth) or shown our commitment to top level athletics (Hockey East) at all.
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Thank you! Finally someone doesn't have their head in the sand.
 
The good news : UConn leaders are demonstrating a quiet confidence heading into the B12 decision.

The bad news : UConn leaders were demonstrating a quiet confidence heading into the last ACC expansion (when Louisville ate our lunch, shat in our lunch bag, and gave it back to us with a bow on it).
 
CallMeBruce said:
You're a buffoon. You know as well as anyone that getting into a stronger conference is as much of a priority for UConn leadership as anything. That they aren't approaching it in a way you would prefer should tell you that perhaps, just perhaps, you're not an expert in how to appeal to university presidents. If they think these are the best moves they can make, then these are the moves they should make. But make no mistake: whatever the administration is doing is the thing they expect gives them they best chance to get into a stronger conference.
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Another wise, well thought reply to a stupid post. Thank god there are people who get it.
 
Chin Diesel said:
I read the article to mean all groveling has been done and a decision has been made about UConn already. Nothing more to do to change the outcome.

So, we're either already 100% in or 100% out. I'm convinced I'm right in my prediction.
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Is that you dude?
 
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