UConn Outbound Transfers for 8/1/23>7/31/24 Cycle

[ConnMan74]

As far as I know they can't just pull a scholarship but they can tell you that you won't be getting any playing time. If you stay on you have to keep performing at practice or else you get the boot. When faced with that players transfer.

Each year I'd say probably 5-6 players leave before the portal era. It's that portal makes those numbers appear even more outsized

Technically they cannot but coaches can make it very difficult for you to keep it. For example, team meetings are mandatory and if you are 1 minute late a coach can close the door and claim you missed the meeting. They then cite you for violating team rules. Multiple violations no matter how minor are then used as justification for removal from the team. Players know when they are being pushed out even without it being said. If they survive all of that, at their end of the year meeting they are told, “no matter what you ever do, you will never play here so maybe you should hop in the portal and we will help you find another spot”. The coaches rarely help but the kid is better off leaving rather than risking being kicked off the team with a “violation of team rules” stigma. If the team kicks the kid off of the team for poor performance they have to honor the academic portion of the scholarship and they do not want to spend money on a kid not playing football.

Or so I’ve heard.

 

[UCFBfan]

The pro game has an antitrust exception, the NCAA doesn't. The pro game has contract and revenue share, the NCAA doesn't.

Baker is pushing and feels like Congress will grant the NCAA an exemption as well. Don't have the link to the Yahoo article but I just read it last night. He thinks it will end all these lawsuits. Aka, allows them to block out whoever they want

'How will we pay for this?' — College leaders react to NCAA's new subdivision proposal

It's a new day in college sports, and some college administrators are dealing with it differently than others.

sports.yahoo.com

Baker is asking for a “little” antitrust exemption, as well as protection from college athletes being deemed employees. Why drop his proposal now without congressional legislation needed to codify such?

Maybe it’s a way to show Congress how serious the NCAA is about change. Or maybe Congress is well on its way to passing that legislation.

“Does he know something we don’t?” one athletic director asked. “If not, we are going to get sued again.”

 

[Dizzy21]

Technically they cannot but coaches can make it very difficult for you to keep it. For example, team meetings are mandatory and if you are 1 minute late a coach can close the door and claim you missed the meeting. They then cite you for violating team rules. Multiple violations no matter how minor are then used as justification for removal from the team. Players know when they are being pushed out even without it being said. If they survive all of that, at their end of the year meeting they are told, “no matter what you ever do, you will never play here so maybe you should hop in the portal and we will help you find another spot”. The coaches rarely help but the kid is better off leaving rather than risking being kicked off the team with a “violation of team rules” stigma. If the team kicks the kid off of the team for poor performance they have to honor the academic portion of the scholarship and they do not want to spend money on a kid not playing football.

Or so I’ve heard.

It is true you cannot "cancel" or "pull" a scholarship during the year, but most scholarships renew on a yearly basis (very rare for more than that). They are one year contracts. The Coach simply has to not renew the scholarship for poor performance. There is no song and dance involved in that. The students only appeal option is to convince the University to give them a scholarship because of the circumstances, but the athletic department is not involved in that and the scholarship would not be for playing on the team anymore.

 

[Stinger92860]

He's got an opportunity to collect some NIL money and a better shot to maybe play his way into the NFL. Good for him and thanks for the two seasons he gave us. I'm not going to act hurt because some interviewer wrung a mildly negative comment out of him...

We have players in the NFL. If thats his goal he can do it here. His goal is more money.

 

[businesslawyer]

We have players in the NFL. If thats his goal he can do it here. His goal is more money.

Serious question. Do you believe that the only reason someone would rather play at a good P-2 school is money? He can't want to test himself against better competition? It can't be that he wants to try to win a national championship, or a conference championship, or be ranked? it can't be because he wants to play in front of more people, more NFL scouts and a larger TV audience? It can only, 100%, be that he wants more money?

 

[noeynox]

Serious question. Do you believe that the only reason someone would rather play at a good P-2 school is money. He can't want to test himself against better competition? It can't be that he wants to try to win a national championship, or a conference championship, or be ranked? it can't be because he wants to play in front of more people, more NFL scouts and a larger TV audience? I can only, 100%, be that he wants more money?

Count me in the camp, that doesn't understand our fans feeling jilted over this kid going in the portal. We like the portal when kids come here, (especially in BB) but when someone looks for greener pastures away from Storrs it is somehow a bad thing or somehow shows a lack of character or whatever.

Florida had half their highly rated 2022 class go in the portal yesterday. This is the new normal. Kids will among other things, want to get paid. If you see what you believe are lesser players than you, getting paid, there is no shame in getting in on some of that.

 

[Duncan Idaho]

We have players in the NFL. If thats his goal he can do it here. His goal is more money.

It the whole P4 experience. Mora has said as much. Recruits love everything here, then a P4 offers...

 

[ZooCougar]

Serious question. Do you believe that the only reason someone would rather play at a good P-2 school is money? He can't want to test himself against better competition? It can't be that he wants to try to win a national championship, or a conference championship, or be ranked? it can't be because he wants to play in front of more people, more NFL scouts and a larger TV audience? It can only, 100%, be that he wants more money?

Seconded.

 

[RedStickHusky]

We have players in the NFL. If thats his goal he can do it here. His goal is more money.

a. You don't know that; and
b. What if it is? I'd still wish him success.

 

[uconnfan68]

Count me in the camp, that doesn't understand our fans feeling jilted over this kid going in the portal. We like the portal when kids come here, (especially in BB) but when someone looks for greener pastures away from Storrs it is somehow a bad thing or somehow shows a lack of character or whatever.

Florida had half their highly rated 2022 class go in the portal yesterday. This is the new normal. Kids will among other things, want to get paid. If you see what you believe are lesser players than you, getting paid, there is no shame in getting in on some of that.

It's more than "just business" with most fans, but I see that feeling going away sooner than later.

 

[Dizzy21]

We have players in the NFL. If thats his goal he can do it here. His goal is more money.

Are you also wondering why Liberty, the highest scoring team in the country that is 13-0 did not make the CFP? It's pretty simple that doing well against the best competition time after time is far more valuable than doing well consistently against mid to lower competition. I love UConn, but the money is not to lure him away from UConn. It is to lure him away from your P4 peers.

 

[Jimdish255]

Been off the grid for a few days but really disappointed with Joly's comments. Thanks Captain obvious! It's not like the entire staff and administration, legislators and thousands of Alumni haven't been pushing and working for a better outcome. If you feel guilty about leaving keep it to yourself. You don't have to justify a better opportunity by dumping on the program.

 

[Stinger92860]

Serious question. Do you believe that the only reason someone would rather play at a good P-2 school is money? He can't want to test himself against better competition? It can't be that he wants to try to win a national championship, or a conference championship, or be ranked? it can't be because he wants to play in front of more people, more NFL scouts and a larger TV audience? It can only, 100%, be that he wants more money?

The data is showing portal transfers growing with the onset of NIL. While not 100% of the kids transfer for the money I would expect the majority are leaving for the money. Why else is there an NIL database? Are you aware of anyone leaving for less NIL money?

 

[Jimdish255]

The comments were pretty constructive actually. Silly to not want a talented player like him to come back.

Constructive for who? The same people he could have spoken to personally?

 

[ZooCougar]

Constructive for who? The same people he could have spoken to personally?

To anyone who wants to pull their heads out of the sand.

 

[Dizzy21]

The data is showing portal transfers growing with the onset of NIL. While not 100% of the kids transfer for the money I would expect the majority are leaving for the money. Why else is there an NIL database? Are you aware of anyone leaving for less NIL money?

I am willing to bet that pretty much everyone who transfers from a huge program to somewhere like us is going to get less money, and pretty much everyone who goes G5 to P4 will get more money. Are those P4 kids making the move to G5 to get less money? No, that makes zero sense. They are moving because they were sitting on the bench and may get playing time in a G5 to prove themselves.

On the other end, the excellent G5 players move to get more exposure and better chances of drafting and the other very obvious benefits of playing against better competition, having scouts at every practice and every game, being on national TV, which also comes with more money because the P4 need to compete with other P4 schools trying to get the same player. The money is a big factor in a kids decision between peers, not when it is obvious that the move should be made.

If moving into and out of the P5 was about money, UConn would get zero P5 transfers, as a bench sitter in SEC or Michigan gets paid more than anyone at UConn. Joly would have transferred if the NIL existed or not.

 

[NEforceUConn]

Are all the Vandy xfers trying to get to Stanford? If you've got a free ride to Vandy, I think most sane advisors would tell you to stay there.

And have to show up for classes?????????

 

[MilliniumPrince]

then why commit here if you don’t like the schedule? our schedule is set at least 3-4 years in advance and play pretty good teams. Good luck in SEC or BiG10 getting bypassed by other 5* kids.

Kid was literally listening to Twitter Spaces being held by MrHotBalls after football games to get the excitement going…

Because he was an excited 17/18 year old kid. He now has new information/experience and thus a new opinion. Something we used to call wisdom.

If a person can't have a new perspective bosses on experience and info....damn!

 

[MilliniumPrince]

Correct! Not sure where Joly was coming from with the "it's hard not knowing who you are going to be playing from year to year... there is never a set schedule" comment. UConn's schedule is pretty much set for the next 4 years. Obviously a few games may change given the musical chairs of continuing conference realignment, but contracts for 2024, 2025, 2026 and 2027 are already signed. Granted, UConn may not be for him, but he doesn't have to utter false statements.

Future UConn Football Schedules | FBSchedules.com

Knowing your schedule and knowing the teams on your schedule isn't the same thing.

 

[ZooCougar]

It’s pretty obvious what Joly was referring to. He was talking about the lack of a regular, repeatable conference schedule.

Our independent schedule is just a random box of chocolates. Since they don’t count towards anything they are also like a series of exhibitions.

Unfortunately we won’t be joining a conference anytime soon so this will be something we have to deal with.

 

[Bongo Fury]

Now that he has left the team, he can be honest. Otherwise players and coaches are almost always going only to say positive things.

 

[FfldCntyFan]

Our independent schedule is just a random box of chocolates. Since they don’t count towards anything they are also like a series of exhibitions.

Now you're starting to sound like Diaco.

 

[ZooCougar]

Now you're starting to sound like Diaco.

Yeah but he saw exhibitions as a positive.

 

[Samoo]

I am heartened by the fact that the last couple of times I've opened this thread after seeing two new pages added, it's just because you all are still arguing and not because another player has entered the portal.

 

[huskymedic]