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I don’t know if anyone else noticed but late in the fourth quarter, Ash found herself guarding Gisela Sanchez in the paint. Sanchez gave Ash several sharp jabs with her elbow and due to the height difference, I think it caught Ash in a sensitive spot. FWIW, Ash jabbed back but she was outmatched.

Then Geno subs Ash out for Serah, who had a few words for Sanchez. Serah got a little spicy and I love it. The Huskies have each others’ backs
Great catch, Nan, I was reasonably sure that's why Sareh got into the tiff with the ND center, but the FOX announcers didn't mention it. I was sure that Serah's actions were because the ND center was roughhousing Ash...
 
Bone Dog, what do you mean by "She just seems to intent on succeeding to fail"? As an educator, I am stunned that you might think that there is something wrong with a team-focused player who continues to push her envelope and does not get discouraged whenever her efforts do not meet with intended success. She continues to play and grow inside the UConn system which is EXACTLY what she needs to be doing.

"Intent on succeeding to fail" sounds waaaaaay off-base. Please explain or clarify.
Typo on my part -- damn Otto-correct -- should have been "too intent." I was trying to say that she is really intense and aiming very high. Kids like her tend to achieve great things, given time..
 
Great catch, Nan, I was reasonably sure that's why Sareh got into the tiff with the ND center, but the FOX announcers didn't mention it. I was sure that Serah's actions were because the ND center was roughhousing Ash...
I rewatched the second half to try to understand what was going on. It looked like Sanchez had been grabbing Serah earlier in the game on a couple different possessions and got whistled for it once. Somewhat later she elbowed Ash, and there was a bit of grabbing going on there too, which seemed odd to me. Why would the offensive player want to grab the defensive player? Ash smacked her hand away a couple times, and then the elbow happened. Then Serah came back into the game and the final confrontation happened, also based on more grabby fouling. I don't know what was said between them, but Serah looked pretty pissed, and Sanchez seems to be a volatile personality, much more so than Serah. Maybe she was on edge because they were losing so badly at that point.

I couldn't follow what the refs decided. The announcers seemed to suggest a double technical but the camera work didn't clarify it as it happened so fast. I have a feeling Maj Forsberg wanted a quick resolution rather than an extended video review, which was probably wise. Then Serah shot free throws.
 
Great catch, Nan, I was reasonably sure that's why Sareh got into the tiff with the ND center, but the FOX announcers didn't mention it. I was sure that Serah's actions were because the ND center was roughhousing Ash...
The announcers didn't mention it because they were too busy conversing as though they were waiting for their order to arrive.
 
I rewatched the second half to try to understand what was going on. It looked like Sanchez had been grabbing Serah earlier in the game on a couple different possessions and got whistled for it once. Somewhat later she elbowed Ash, and there was a bit of grabbing going on there too, which seemed odd to me. Why would the offensive player want to grab the defensive player? Ash smacked her hand away a couple times, and then the elbow happened. Then Serah came back into the game and the final confrontation happened, also based on more grabby fouling. I don't know what was said between them, but Serah looked pretty pissed, and Sanchez seems to be a volatile personality, much more so than Serah. Maybe she was on edge because they were losing so badly at that point.

I couldn't follow what the refs decided. The announcers seemed to suggest a double technical but the camera work didn't clarify it as it happened so fast. I have a feeling Maj Forsberg wanted a quick resolution rather than an extended video review, which was probably wise. Then Serah shot free throws.
According to the Play By Play and what I observed when I watched the game, Sanchez was called for a foul before the scuffle. Serah was awarded two FTs. They both were given technicals, no FTs awarded, because of the scuffle.
 
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They are not a bad team, like a Butler or BC. They are a rival team, so it's great to beat them, badly. But they are not that good this year.
Some of the best teams in WBB are getting embarrassed by the Huskies. That doesn’t mean they are not good.

I didn't read @meyers7 as saying Notre Dame is not good because UConn beat them. He said they are not currently ranked and that they are not as good as usual this year. Both of those claims are facts . . . not opinions . . . in my opinion.

However, I agree that "good" in the abstract is semantically subjective. Any team with more wins than losses could be considered good, which means there are about 180 good teams in DI WCBB. Not worth quibbling about.

I think the fighting issue is whether UConn's large MOV over Notre Dame is evidence that UConn will be an unstoppable juggernaut against the current AP 2-6 or whether it is repetitive non-evidence of that outcome. How much evidentiary weight does or should the Notre Dame MOV carry regarding the issue?
 
I didn't read @meyers7 as saying Notre Dame is not good because UConn beat them. He said they are not currently ranked and that they are not as good as usual this year. Both of those claims are facts . . . not opinions . . . in my opinion.

However, I agree that "good" in the abstract is semantically subjective. Any team with more wins than losses could be considered good, which means there are about 180 good teams in DI WCBB. Not worth quibbling about.

I think the fighting issue is whether UConn's large MOV over Notre Dame is evidence that UConn will be an unstoppable juggernaut against the current AP 2-6 or whether it is repetitive non-evidence of that outcome. How much evidentiary weight does or should the Notre Dame MOV carry regarding the issue?
Gael, I am not going to repost the entire back and forth between myself and Meyers, which is several posts long. But the specific comment that I first responded to was, “ND is NOT a good team.” Post #153
 
Speaking of the bench, I very much appreciate Jana's enthusiasm and encouragement. She's a good teammate.
What many don’t see during the time outs is Jana is standing directly behind and intently bent looking over him as he charts out the scheme.she is so focused on what he is saying to the players you just know she is a coaches kid. The others mostly pay attention but look around with half-hearted interest. I am rooting for her to get back on the court and show that renewed effort she was demonstrating before this recent concussion.
 
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Gael, I am not going to repost the entire back and forth between myself and Meyers, which is several posts long. But the specific comment that I first responded to was, “ND is NOT a good team.” Post #153
And I was responding to Tony calling ND a good team.

We just have different definitions of what a good team is.

And just for reference, I don't think Georgetown is a good team either. No matter how much we beat them by.
 
Gael, I am not going to repost the entire back and forth between myself and Meyers, which is several posts long. But the specific comment that I first responded to was, “ND is NOT a good team.” Post #153
I posted ND is not a good team, they are a weak team. I came to that conclusion after watching them play at least five games. I was responding to a poster who said ND is a good team. It was my way of saying that all teams UConn beats are not good teams. I believe I am the one who started this thought. Just what I believe.
 
I posted ND is not a good team, they are a weak team. I came to that conclusion after watching them play at least five games. I was responding to a poster who said ND is a good team. It was my way of saying that all teams UConn beats are not good teams. I believe I am the one who started this thought. Just what I believe.
I agree. Good teams don’t get beat by 38 points by anybody. Mediocre teams can.
 
ND is definitely having a down year. Injuries have also thinned the roster. We know what that's like.

Call it what you may. Makes no difference to many. UConn is the better team.
 
UConn vs notre dame promoted as two of the best players in the country. Maybe so, but neither one of them was Hidalgo. Granted the defense geared toward stopping her, but did not out play Sarah, Azzi or KK.
Hidalgo had to deal with , perhaps, one of the best team defenses that UConn( or any women's team) has ever fielded. She played all but the last minute or so, had the ball in her hands much of the time, was harassed by that defense, yet only turned the ball over 3 times. She had very little help out there. Easy to see why she is one of the best players in the country. Would be interesting to see how UConn players would handle the kind of defense that they themselves play.
 
OK, I’m going to move on from this lengthy subjective discussion of whether or not ND is a “good” team to something that is completely objective. When UConn beat ND on Monday, the Irish were ranked 28th in the NCAA Net rankings. Any home win over any team ranked 30 or higher in the Net rankings is classified as a Quad 1 win. That can change as the season progresses depending on how ND performs the rest of the season.

So if you want to insure that UConn draws the #1 overall seeding in the Big Dance, you hope that ND maintains their position as a top 30 Net team for the remainder of the regular season. With that said, it’s worth noting that several earlier UConn victims have improved their Net rankings since they lost to the Huskies: Louisville (8), Iowa (13), & tOSU (18), although Louisville & Iowa were technically at neutral sites, which allows for a top 50 Net ranking to be considered a Quad 1 win.
 
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The announcers didn't mention it because they were too busy conversing as though they were waiting for their order to arrive.
Will Fox ever chastise the announcers for the continual non-game/basketball rambling? For one example, as was mentioned in another post, there were subs brought into the game in the 4th Q without the announcers indicating who they were. All the players should receive recognition and their names announced when they first come into a game especially a game that is nationally televised. This should be a standard procedure. It should also be standard procedure to actually call the game, not carry on with unrelated conversation.
 
More than dribbling around, there are times when HH just stands there with the ball in her hand surveying the defense as the shot clock is winding down. She did that several times yesterday which prompted me to wonder, “What in the hell is she doing?”
In one of the earlier games on Monday, there was allusion to "too much dribbling." The announcers said that fans don't want to see someone just dribbling, they want to see cutting, passing, shooting. . . That mostly one person dribbling with little movement makes for boring basketball.
 
Any home win over any team ranked 30 or higher in the Net rankings is classified as a Quad 1 win. That can change as the season progresses depending on how ND performs the rest of the season.

Incorrect.
Home win against top 25. Neutral vs top 35. Road vs top 45.

 
Will Fox ever chastise the announcers for the continual non-game/basketball rambling? For one example, as was mentioned in another post, there were subs brought into the game in the 4th Q without the announcers indicating who they were. All the players should receive recognition and their names announced when they first come into a game especially a game that is nationally televised. This should be a standard procedure. It should also be standard procedure to actually call the game, not carry on with unrelated conversation.
It is not. I've not seen it in the NBA, WNBA, MCBB, or WCBB.

Fox is in fact following standard procedure.

If that were followed, broadcasters of a TN game would have no time to talk about anything else. 🤣
 
Incorrect.
Home win against top 25. Neutral vs top 35. Road vs top 45.

You got me. What I gave you was Net rankings for MBB which, I just learned, is different than Net rankings for WBB.

Don’t ever ask AI anything……
 
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