UConn-ND at Fenway (2014)

[brasssbonanzaa]

The only BC team who can sell out Fenway is their hockey team.

 

[Dann]

if this is a nd home game, do it at any chance possible. if they want fenway so be it. they will get 50k there with bleechers that rise up to the tip of the monster like the pics in this thread. hopefully they give uconn 5-10k to sell.

if this is giving away a uconn home game then i want 50/50 gate and 20k/25k tix for uconn to sell. if so i make this deal also.

i think fenway may be ok as far as seat view of a fball field, i know its not the greateast puck wise.

but there are several wierd things
-razor is 80k vs a 40/50k fenway. you can charge the same $ for a nd ticket at each place.
-lets wait and here about how many freaking bball games and other sports we tossed around
-nd schedule makes this game not possible unless we were going to the acc. now this begs the question, in order to get into the acc we have to give up a nd home game and go play them in fenway. rut roh. i'm all ok with a 1 off type series stuff going to ny/boston and figuring out something good for uconn. but now were talking about a league game getting moved. just something to think about.
-double down on this warde, 2014 in fenway and then flip the script and go 2015 or 16 in yankee stadium opposite deal. so who ever got the home/gate/tix balh blah before is now switched.

 

[businesslawyer]

if this is a nd home game, do it at any chance possible. if they want fenway so be it. they will get 50k there with bleechers that rise up to the tip of the monster like the pics in this thread. hopefully they give uconn 5-10k to sell.

if this is giving away a uconn home game then i want 50/50 gate and 20k/25k tix for uconn to sell. if so i make this deal also.

i think fenway may be ok as far as seat view of a fball field, i know its not the greateast puck wise.

but there are several wierd things
-razor is 80k vs a 40/50k fenway. you can charge the same $ for a nd ticket at each place.
-lets wait and here about how many freaking bball games and other sports we tossed around
-nd schedule makes this game not possible unless we were going to the acc. now this begs the question, in order to get into the acc we have to give up a nd home game and go play them in fenway. rut roh. i'm all ok with a 1 off type series stuff going to ny/boston and figuring out something good for uconn. but now were talking about a league game getting moved. just something to think about.
-double down on this warde, 2014 in fenway and then flip the script and go 2015 or 16 in yankee stadium opposite deal. so who ever got the home/gate/tix balh blah before is now switched.

I think it's funny that some here think we have any leverage at the moment. If the ACC calls us and gives us an invite conditioned upon us playing ND every other year with half the games in South Bend and all our home games being at the Rent or Meadowlands, where we only get the profit we would get from the Rent and they get the rest, we would accept in a nanosecond.

 

[brasssbonanzaa]

if this is a nd home game, do it at any chance possible. if they want fenway so be it. they will get 50k there with bleechers that rise up to the tip of the monster like the pics in this thread. hopefully they give uconn 5-10k to sell.

if this is giving away a uconn home game then i want 50/50 gate and 20k/25k tix for uconn to sell. if so i make this deal also.

i think fenway may be ok as far as seat view of a fball field, i know its not the greateast puck wise.

but there are several wierd things
-razor is 80k vs a 40/50k fenway. you can charge the same $ for a nd ticket at each place.
-lets wait and here about how many freaking bball games and other sports we tossed around
-nd schedule makes this game not possible unless we were going to the acc. now this begs the question, in order to get into the acc we have to give up a nd home game and go play them in fenway. rut roh. i'm all ok with a 1 off type series stuff going to ny/boston and figuring out something good for uconn. but now were talking about a league game getting moved. just something to think about.
-double down on this warde, 2014 in fenway and then flip the script and go 2015 or 16 in yankee stadium opposite deal. so who ever got the home/gate/tix balh blah before is now switched.

They won't add bleachers to Fenway in left field, as they would massively obstruct the views of the seats down the left field foul line and the center field bleacher section, its capacity is what it is, it'd be roughly 38-39K for the game. Views for hockey were absolutely terrible for 50% of the stadium, though for football, I suspect they'd be better since there's no boards. Also, Gillette is 65K, and a severe royal pain in the ass for anyone in Boston to get to, so the UConn alumni contingent in Boston (as well as ND's) would very likely prefer Fenway over Gillette any day.

ND also has the ability to move some 2014 games as someone linked here earlier.

 

[Husky25]

Let's forget about Gillette Stadium. the article's lead reads (emphasis added by me), "The Red Sox are actively seeking to bring college football back to Fenway Park, specifically a game between Notre Dame and the University of Connecticut in 2014."

The Trio minus Theo don't have a stake in Gillette and couldn't care much less if football is played there on a UMass away date. This is about filling Fenway for one more day before that winter's maintenence begins.

Given the logistics, this needs to be a mid November game at earliest. Fenway is first a foremost a baseball park and while the Sox are obviously not making the playoffs this year, don't think they won't try to make moves to get back there by '14. Just an observation...

 

[Dann]

I think it's funny that some here think we have any leverage at the moment. If the ACC calls us and gives us an invite conditioned upon us playing ND every other year with half the games in South Bend and all our home games being at the Rent or Meadowlands, where we only get the profit we would get from the Rent and they get the rest, we would accept in a nanosecond.

really? so lets join a league that tells us your stadium has to be 50k to play teams. whoops all nyc/boston games 4 u uconn. weehee. play this game and hope its not part of some acc thing. if we get a invite anywhere conf wise, imediately expand to get the buzz maxed out and to show we are about it big boy fball style. now we can get good teams at the rent more. put up that 3rd tier of 10k, put the band on the field infront of the students, the gates are already set up for that stuff. or put students lower and band in there somehow. just 500 more students basically in that open spot behind the endzone. then the 2nd tier open part where the scoreboard ahs got be be closed, fuck that stupid view. close that shit. thats a couple k seats. do a catwalk type thing around the top of that new 2nd tier endzone and a new scoreboard or fix up our current one and put it above that new seating. this is the begining of what warde should be looking to do.

what ever the average stadium size teams is we should be in that area.

 

[Dann]

They won't add bleachers to Fenway in left field, as they would massively obstruct the views of the seats down the left field foul line and the center field bleacher section, its capacity is what it is, it'd be roughly 38-39K for the game. Views for hockey were absolutely terrible for 50% of the stadium, though for football, I suspect they'd be better since there's no boards. Also, Gillette is 65K, and a severe royal pain in the ass for anyone in Boston to get to, so the UConn alumni contingent in Boston (as well as ND's) would very likely prefer Fenway over Gillette any day.

ND also has the ability to move some 2014 games as someone linked here earlier.

good point but i can still see them doing it. maybe that stretch brings more to the table #'s wise then what it would block. or i can atleast see about a 10 row of bleechers in that spot that wouldn't block views considering the way left field raises up down the line.

 

[brasssbonanzaa]

Let's forget about Gillette Stadium. the article's lead reads (emphasis added by me), "The Red Sox are actively seeking to bring college football back to Fenway Park, specifically a game between Notre Dame and the University of Connecticut in 2014."

The Trio minus Theo don't have a stake in Gillette and couldn't care much less if football is played there on a UMass away date. This is about filling Fenway for one more day before that winter's maintenence begins.

Given the logistics, this needs to be a mid November game at earliest. Fenway is first a foremost a baseball park and while the Sox are obviously not making the playoffs this year, don't think they won't try to make moves to get back there by '14. Just an observation...

They could easily reconvert the stadium from football to baseball during a short road trip for the Sox. They had a soccer game at Fenway as well as two Springsteen concerts while the Sox were on ~one week road trips. Not a hard conversion like it was with the Winter Classic setup, just throwing down temporary sod, paint some lines, put up goalposts.

 

[brasssbonanzaa]

good point but i can still see them doing it. maybe that stretch brings more to the table #'s wise then what it would block. or i can atleast see about a 10 row of bleechers in that spot that wouldn't block views considering the way left field raises up down the line.

It would block more than it would add. Plus, there isn't enough room to have sidelines on both sides of the football field and leave enough room for the bleachers unless the pitch of the bleachers was so steep that you'd need an elevator to go down from one row to another, and even then you'd be blocking seats in left field and center. This was discussed when they thought of putting the Winter Classic rink sideways from the infield into right field and it ended up not being feasible with a hockey rink, much less with a football field. Don't forget those left field seats at Fenway come right up to the foul line basically right behind third base and run to the green monster from there, so there's absolutely no foul territory there to act as a buffer. They've about maxed out the capacity of Fenway with the recent additions other than maybe a few more deck seats in various places, but I don't believe they're planning to do any further seating additions. Not like they'd be able to sell those tickets for Sox games anyways as long as Clownshoes Valentine is there...

 

[Husky25]

They won't add bleachers to Fenway in left field, as they would massively obstruct the views of the seats down the left field foul line and the center field bleacher section, its capacity is what it is, it'd be roughly 38-39K for the game. Views for hockey were absolutely terrible for 50% of the stadium, though for football, I suspect they'd be better since there's no boards. Also, Gillette is 65K, and a severe royal pain in the ass for anyone in Boston to get to, so the UConn alumni contingent in Boston (as well as ND's) would very likely prefer Fenway over Gillette any day.

ND also has the ability to move some 2014 games as someone linked here earlier.

Your right. The Powers-That-Be have a real problem sell obtructed view seats.

In all seriousness though, if you look the second photo I posted, the top portion of the temp bleachers next to center field is dog-eared. The left field side looks like it is realitively even with the slope of the wall along the foul line in the corner. If they can figure out how to position the temp bleachers with 1965 technology, surely they can figure it out in 2014.

 

[Husky25]

They could easily reconvert the stadium from football to baseball during a short road trip for the Sox. They had a soccer game at Fenway as well as two Springsteen concerts while the Sox were on ~one week road trips. Not a hard conversion like it was with the Winter Classic setup, just throwing down temporary sod, paint some lines, put up goalposts.

I suppose the game could be played in September. I was thinking about October. I assume as the primary tenant, MLB would trump the NCAA in terms of scheduling. It would also take longer than a short road trip...It would have to be a week at minimum (as you state).

 

[Srqhusky]

Not sure If this even has any legs but we r at 100 responses already

 

[brasssbonanzaa]

Your right. The Powers-That-Be have a real problem sell obtructed view seats.

In all seriousness though, if you look the second photo I posted, the top portion of the temp bleachers next to center field is dog-eared. The left field side looks like it is realitively even with the slope of the wall along the foul line in the corner. If they can figure out how to position the temp bleachers with 1965 technology, surely they can figure it out in 2014.

haha touche. i mean, maybe they could put a few in, but it would also block the scoreboard and the green monster, which is part of the luster they use to attract people, and it would block HUGE advertising space on the green monster that likely would be in direct view of the TV cameras for the entire game, so there might be more money in it for Fenway to keep the monster in view, have the ads up and cash in that way. Plus, adding in bleachers on the field would mean the game would 100% have to be after the baseball season ended because of construction and inspection times, which wouldn't be the case if there weren't any bleachers.

 

[brasssbonanzaa]

I suppose the game could be played in September. I was thinking about October. I assume as the primary tenant, MLB would trump the NCAA in terms of scheduling. It would also take longer than a short road trip...It would have to be a week at minimum (as you state).

Oh, of course MLB has first right to schedule how they want and the Sox will schedule their games as they wish, but the regular season extends into the first week of October now, so you're right, they'd have all of September to easily schedule the game. October, after the first week, MLB wouldn't let them do because of potential playoff games. And also, with the World Series extending into the first week of November, it would limit that time to the second week of November and forward.

 

[zls44]

I haven't had time to go through all 11 pages, but here are my two cents:

Make this game happen, Warde. Period. No brainer.

 

[Kgun7]

Why is everyone going back to the 60's to find a fenway football configuration? Soccer is wider but has the same length from end to end ... not including goal posts. Because the fenway games were not FIFA sanctioned they don't need to be regulation ... and this field appears to be shorter. Hope they don't end up swapping ends on changes of possesion like Wrigley ...

 

[Adios]

I would wait until we have a new OC. Don't you think it's nice to give ourselves a chance first? We should take up Gus Malzahn first. We want to go 2-0, not 1-1.

 

[BlueMAB]

I think it's funny that some here think we have any leverage at the moment. If the ACC calls us and gives us an invite conditioned upon us playing ND every other year with half the games in South Bend and all our home games being at the Rent or Meadowlands, where we only get the profit we would get from the Rent and they get the rest, we would accept in a nanosecond.

I think its funny that some here continue to bring up men's (and especially women's) basketball as if it they will have an impact on scheduling ND for football.

In case some of you forgot, ND is joining the ACC for all other sports. Which means games against Duke, UNC, NC State, Maryland, sPitt, Fruit U, etc., etc.

Basketball has no leverage with ND. They don't need huge OOC matchups, and if they are willing to move a home game to a venue with 30-40,000 fewer seats, what makes anyone think revenue is an issue???

 

[Fishy]

I'm in, because it would be fun.

I really don't give a rat's ass about everything else.

This.

Just tell us what time the game starts and which color uniforms we should bring.


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[Husky25]

haha touche. i mean, maybe they could put a few in, but it would also block the scoreboard and the green monster, which is part of the luster they use to attract people, and it would block HUGE advertising space on the green monster that likely would be in direct view of the TV cameras for the entire game, so there might be more money in it for Fenway to keep the monster in view, have the ads up and cash in that way. Plus, adding in bleachers on the field would mean the game would 100% have to be after the baseball season ended because of construction and inspection times, which wouldn't be the case if there weren't any bleachers.

I'd imagine that the game would be televised mainly from the Centerfield camera or on top of the Monster much like how the soccer game was. I agree that the Monster might be a huge draw, but I don't see how they could hang ads on it. If you cover it with ads, it merely becomes a wall and seizes to be the Green Monster. Don't forget that [American] football at Fenway is such a novelty in and of itself. Maybe the bleachers don't go all the way to the top to preserve viewing angles? Just spitballing here...All I know is that there is photographic evidence of how the Yawkeys set up Fenway for the Patriots in the 60's.

 

[businesslawyer]

I would wait until we have a new OC. Don't you think it's nice to give ourselves a chance first? We should take up Gus Malzahn first. We want to go 2-0, not 1-1.

Is this something we know need to talk about in any and every unrelated post for the next few years? I would beg you not to go TDH on us here. (And I say that as someone who doesn't think Deleone is the answer)

 

[uconndogs]

No, no, no...........I have it on good authority from any number of posters on this board that....and I quote....."our offense cannot get any worse than it was under Edsall". Just wing it around the field. Plenty of guys can throw it and catch it. Every other college team in the country does it. Grind it out on the ground sucks, even if you win.....

 

[huskymedic]

Well almost 11 pages and no comparison of the UConn offense to the Red Sux offense... I'm shocked!

(had to edit after seeing Butchy post...)

 

[Adios]

Is this something we know need to talk about in any and every unrelated post for the next few years? I would beg you not to go TDH on us here. (And I say that as someone who doesn't think Deleone is the answer)

I was just bringing it up because Kelly knows how to gain yardage. I am not TDH, don't worry. It is what it is. I am just of the opinion get the most Ws and that's how we build upwards. This game would definitely be huge exposure in any year.

 

[Husky25]

Why is everyone going back to the 60's to find a fenway football configuration? Soccer is wider but has the same length from end to end ... not including goal posts. Because the fenway games were not FIFA sanctioned they don't need to be regulation ... and this field appears to be shorter. Hope they don't end up swapping ends on changes of possesion like Wrigley ...

You're comparing peaches to nectarines. They taste similar but are two different fruit. The standard width of a soccer pitch is about 75 yards. A regulation american football field is 53.3 yards wide. That means the American football sideline closest to left field would be run along right about the edge of the penalty area.

 

[Dann]

based on the soccer picture, i bet they do some seats along the monster 10 to 20 rows high without blocking other views.

 

[huskymedic]

Brian Hamilton ‏@ChiTribHamilton
#NotreDame HC, Red Sox fan Brian Kelly on possible Fenway Park game vs. Connecticut: "I think it'd be cool. I'd like to do it."

 

[B1GEast]

Personally, I think this may be ND getting back to BCU for voting against Uconn into the ACC, just my opinion.

 

[brasssbonanzaa]

Personally, I think this may be ND getting back to BCU for voting against Uconn into the ACC, just my opinion.

Why does ND care about BC not voting us in? They have no vested interest in us being a part of the ACC. Plus, they already play BC, so it's neither here nor there to them.

 

[Dann]

Personally, I think this may be ND getting back to BCU for voting against Uconn into the ACC, just my opinion.

my honest thought is this. uconn and ruty were invited just like cuse and pitt. cuse and pitt jumped as they had nothing else going on. ruty and uconn said we will think about it as they had at the time a b10 interest that was mutual. the bc ad mouths off like a jerk trying to look good in all of this as his program is falling apart trying to save his face for keeping uconn out to his fanbase. this whole time nd is working with the acc/b12/b10 on deals but knows the acc is home #1 if possible. they use the b12/b10 to get the best deal possible from the acc. when its about to happen, the bc ad knows he is . he knows that once nd goes for it and signs, bc will #1 lose a nd game every year(every other at home) and have a game every 3 years and 6 at home and #2 that uconn will be joining with ruty as they now see enough reason for the acc over b10 plus the not many slots left factor.

then JC retires. that tough guy we all love was never going to coach in another league. god bless him. u may ask, but this year he still could have coached in the big east? that doesn't make sense. he wanted KO to get a year under his belt before a conf change and earn a new contract so that when we enter a new conf, we would be the strongest we could possibly be(new pf, ko contract, no more ncaa issues, full ships...). all the pieces are falling in to nicely, but then something was done.

uconn and ruty didn't pull the trigger with nd. why not? all of a sudden we are seeing rumors about the b12 interest or how much longer can the b10 be quite now with nd gone? are uconn and ruty looking elsewhere or the acc? are they banking the acc offers and seeing what else is possible? could the b12 really pluch other acc schools?
all crazy questions that you have to factor in when moving around.

so this brings us to today and this possible nd game. how come nd would do this? i think they are doing this on the agreement that uconn will join the acc with them. nd needs uconn more than any other team. uconn gets them to nyc or boston alum. it gets them new england. it gets them the womens bball games and media, soccer, baseball etc. nd is doing this to lock up uconn to the acc. why else? becuase nd just made its choice for the future passing on the same type of deal ffrom the b10 and b12 yet uconn and ruty have interest in those 2. it would be a ugly way for nd to pass on the b12 or b10 and watch uconn/ruty go elsewhere.