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UConn Men's Basketball team has fired S & C Coach Travis Illian

AntG168 said:
We talk a lot about the strength, but another area we failed in this yr was conditioning. Jalen was often winded by the first under 4. Thats unacceptable i hope he works seriously on his conditioning this offseason
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With about 1/2 the number of allowed scholarship players most of the season and playing close to every minute of every game when healthy just might have had a toll on Jalen and most players ...
 
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tykurez said:
Quite frankly - long overdue. Gymnastics have no place in college basketball. Heck, Travis sticking around was one of the main reasons we lost Bunky - so now our recruiting is also taking a hit.
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Man you ain't right
 
Da_Aisijimo_Gou said:
With about 1/2 the number of allowed scholarship players most of the season and playing close to every minute of every game when healthy just might have had a toll on Jalen and most players ...
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He still shouldnt be winded at the first under 4... Purvis avged the same minutes, didnt miss a gama and never seemed as winded as jalen
 
Da_Aisijimo_Gou said:
With about 1/2 the number of allowed scholarship players most of the season and playing close to every minute of every game when healthy just might have had a toll on Jalen and most players ...
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I love Jalen but he strikes me as the kind of kid who has always been able to get by with god given gifts and hasn't put much thought or effort into conditioning or strength training. Guys like Kemba, Bazz, Boat were as fresh in minute 40 as at the tip. Jalen constantly looks tired though.
 
Dream Jobbed 2.0 said:
I love Jalen but he strikes me as the kind of kid who has always been able to get by with god given gifts and hasn't put much thought or effort into conditioning or strength training. Guys like Kemba, Bazz, Boat were as fresh in minute 40 as at the tip. Jalen constantly looks tired though.
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It's part of his attitude. He's a laid back guy that always just had fun playing the game.

He needs to mature a little and start treating this game like a job. Maturity factors are one of the big reasons our guards have made a leap between sophomore and junior year.
 
Horatio said:
Facey and Brimah looked a lot more muscular this past season. We didn't have our usual "skinny" team at all this past season and that includes the freshman. I don't understand . I guess someone just had to get fired.
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A lot of muscle /= good conditioning necessarily.
 
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Chief00 said:
The injury thing blew a hole in his academic theories. Before this year it was you may not think you see big strong guys but your eyes are lying. He believed he improved flexibility and conditioning - not necessarily making you bench more weight and built visible muscles but allowing you to do more reps of moderate weights but more importantly do isolation work on muscles and tendons that are not necessarily usually the focus of traditional strength programs but are important in his academic theories and with his gymnastic background. But, the unfortunate injuries took away that argument even if they weren't his fault.
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Big time gymnasts are usually pretty damn strong and can throw around some weight, our guys got pushed all over the floor this year.
 
Chief00 said:
The injury thing blew a hole in his academic theories. Before this year it was you may not think you see big strong guys but your eyes are lying. He believed he improved flexibility and conditioning - not necessarily making you bench more weight and built visible muscles but allowing you to do more reps of moderate weights but more importantly do isolation work on muscles and tendons that are not necessarily usually the focus of
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AntG168 said:
We talk a lot about the strength, but another area we failed in this yr was conditioning. Jalen was often winded by the first under 4.
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Interesting...we won a National Championship in 2014 because of that conditioning. The players went out of their way to mention it. Boatright even gave 'Coach Travis' a shout out. Good thing we had Travis, or no 2014 ship.

Oh and the injury thing is overblown. If guys were pulling muscles, OK. But ACLs can and do happen to anybody, even the most flexible strong guys in the world. Pre existing shoulder injuries are not on the coach. Pre existing runners knees are not on the coach. Concussions aren't on the coach. Ankle injuries aren't either. And so on...

If they want a new S&C, then fine, I've no problem with that at all. But the white washing of all this is funny.
 
brasssbonanzaa said:
A lot of muscle /= good conditioning necessarily.
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But is essential for the job of defending the paint. Weight matters in holding your ground. Neither of them had enough muscle even if they finally put some on after three years of nothing.
 
People questioning Jalens conditioning need to check his minutes per game this past season. Also, try factoring in that he was our only point guard as a sophomore And our best player on a team that played 7-8 players this season.
 
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Horatio said:
People questioning Jalens conditioning need to check his minutes per game this past season. Also, try factoring in that he was our only point guard as a sophomore And our best player on a team that played 7-8 players this season.
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I have looked at the numbers. Still think his conditioning could be better.

How about purvis, who defended the best perimeter player for 35 minutes most nights, and wasn't falling on the floor after games like Jalen?

Nothing wrong with saying a player needs to work on his conditioning. He won't be "just ok" defensively then, either. He could be great with his length. He isn't able to display his great athleticism Bc of his conditioning currently.

It's just like saying he needs to work on his shot, and cut down on turnovers. It's part of encouraging him to become a better player.

I guarantee you the coaches are having these kinds of conversations with Jalen.
 
If you think about it for about 10 seconds, it makes sense. The whole team seemingly was hurt and out for the year. If blame.is going to be laid, if theirs a conditioning coach, he has to go.
 
Dream Jobbed 2.0 said:
I love Jalen but he strikes me as the kind of kid who has always been able to get by with god given gifts and hasn't put much thought or effort into conditioning or strength training. Guys like Kemba, Bazz, Boat were as fresh in minute 40 as at the tip. Jalen constantly looks tired though.
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Kemba was frequently winded as well. Rodney played off the ball. Shabazz didn't drive as much as Kemba and Jalen.
 
husky429 said:
I have looked at the numbers. Still think his conditioning could be better.

How about purvis, who defended the best perimeter player for 35 minutes most nights, and wasn't falling on the floor after games like Jalen?

Nothing wrong with saying a player needs to work on his conditioning. He won't be "just ok" defensively then, either. He could be great with his length. He isn't able to display his great athleticism Bc of his conditioning currently.

It's just like saying he needs to work on his shot, and cut down on turnovers. It's part of encouraging him to become a better player.

I guarantee you the coaches are having these kinds of conversations with Jalen.
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If I recall, Jalen was OK at the ends of games. Winning them and all.
 
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1) It's almost as close as rating our coaches on our bigs as it is rating our S & C coach. I mean look at the 2 main subjects they both increased their muscle mass in a big way according to their body style. Were't getting any more out of these 2, they looked good to me in comparison to when they limped in on those twigs. Vance and CV looked good, Steve has increased muscle they all need more work but they're either freshman or soph's. We know Rodney had his own routine but he and Travis seemed to make it better every year? Maybe the guy is leaving on his own.

2) Jalen has a little soccer player in him. He acts the tired role a lot but when he gets the ball with 1 minute left after playing 38-39 minutes in most games, he can take most anyone off the dribble and make plays - I mean he did! Not sure about the complaint about him being out of shape but this question seemed to intensify when he was playing on one ankle which would be an obvious excuse right? He's in great shape and if he wasn't it's not on Travis it's on the staff for not running enough during practice.
 
All men are not created equal in terms of endurance. There are different types. I had a friend growing up that ran 20 miles for fun with no training. He could just decide to take a run out of the blue and run all day. He'd take off on 50 mile bike rides on a whim with no problem. I could never run more than a mile or two without serious training. However, I could play sports all day everyday in the summer and that same friend would be whining about being tired and saying he couldn't do it anymore. He needed a lot more sleep than I did too, still does. We had different types of God given endurance.

Jalen might be winded while Rodney isn't because they are built different. Rodney didn't necessarily train harder.
 
navery12 said:
This thread has derailed in the least predicable way I imagined. It's week 2 of the offseason and we're already trashing our best player. This is gonna be a long offseason...
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Exactly!!!! Unbelievable. I know we're miserable but can we at least be realistically miserable.
 
I'm less concerned with all these rationalizations than I am with who is our next s&c coach. I really think Benedict has a knack for bringing in people, so I am very hopeful.
 
Chief I'll give you the props you deserve on this one, you were on this from the beginning. Not surprising considering all the injuries and concussions sustained by the players throughout the year. Not to mention our players being bullied by other teams consistently last several years.

Benedict is a smart guy with good judgement so it should be a good pick.

#MAKEUCONNBASKETBALLGREATAGAIN
 
Joescalper2 said:
If you think about it for about 10 seconds, it makes sense. The whole team seemingly was hurt and out for the year. If blame.is going to be laid, if theirs a conditioning coach, he has to go.
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If you gonna have a crew... You gotta have a fall guy.

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