UConn men, women heading in opposite directions

[HooperScooper]

Reluctant to post this article since it's just piling on at this point. But we're going to be seeing a lot of these articles until Ollie turns this thing around. The Connecticut Post doesn't even have a beat writer any more but they finally decide to write an article and this is what they write about? Thanks, Doug.

“That’s the question I get,” said Jeff Goodman, an ESPN basketball insider, “is, ‘What the hell is going on at UConn?’ A lot. I don’t know how to answer it.”

http://www.ctpost.com/uconn/article/UConn-men-women-heading-in-opposite-directions-11075902.php

 

[BugsyCT]

Calhoun retired in the midst of CR apocalypse, Geno is still here. What do they expect?

 

[UConn990411]

Is there anything lamer than a journalist interviewing another journalist for an article?

 

[pj]

I mostly liked the article, I thought it was pretty fair. But too much time on the Boneyard has made me sensitive to negativity.

Here's a tiny thing that struck me: "The Huskies are an incredible 112-2 over the last three years" -- four years ago they were 40-0, so he could have said "an incredible 152-2 (with three national championships) over the last four years", or "an incredible 111-1 since an early-season loss to Stanford in 2014." To pick a starting time just before the Stanford loss slightly undersells the UConn women's accomplishment.

I feel like the Connecticut press, and many Boneyard posters, grab opportunities to magnify negatives and diminish positives.

I do think the article made a few good points. KO remains a work in progress as a head coach, his potential ceiling is to be a Hall of Fame coach and an all-time great, his potential floor is to be Tom Crean, a guy who leads an elite name program to the NCAAs every other year. The Crean parallel is a good one but I'm confident KO will achieve his full potential.

 

[mauconnfan]

Seth has a clue and Jeff Goodman is consistent in not having one yet again!

 

[Rocktheworld]

Is there anything lamer than a journalist interviewing another journalist for an article?

Everyone editorializes these days. Every idiot with an internet connection thinks they are some quasi analyst, and thanks to shows like First Take, we turn to these people for opinions and insight now. It's pathetic

 

[John Greene]

I mostly liked the article, I thought it was pretty fair. But too much time on the Boneyard has made me sensitive to negativity.

Here's a tiny thing that struck me: "The Huskies are an incredible 112-2 over the last three years" -- four years ago they were 40-0, so he could have said "an incredible 152-2 (with three national championships) over the last four years", or "an incredible 111-1 since an early-season loss to Stanford in 2014." To pick a starting time just before the Stanford loss slightly undersells the UConn women's accomplishment.

I feel like the Connecticut press, and many Boneyard posters, grab opportunities to magnify negatives and diminish positives.

I do think the article made a few good points. KO remains a work in progress as a head coach, his potential ceiling is to be a Hall of Fame coach and an all-time great, his potential floor is to be Tom Crean, a guy who leads an elite name program to the NCAAs every other year. The Crean parallel is a good one but I'm confident KO will achieve his full potential.

Not trying to too much of a Richard Head, but at this point what makes you think KO has the HOF as his ceiling? He caught lightening in a bottle one year as the team made a really improbable run during playoff and tourney time. Other than that he has been all Tom Crean all the time. In fact that rating may be generous unless he makes tourney next year.

 

[EBonz30]

Reluctant to post this article since it's just piling on at this point. But we're going to be seeing a lot of these articles until Ollie turns this thing around. The Connecticut Post doesn't even have a beat writer any more but they finally decide to write an article and this is what they write about? Thanks, Doug.

“That’s the question I get,” said Jeff Goodman, an ESPN basketball insider, “is, ‘What the hell is going on at UConn?’ A lot. I don’t know how to answer it.”

UConn men, women heading in opposite directions

Take this article to the Women's forum, never cared, if your part of this Boneyard you should already have a strong understanding of what is going on with the Men's program, a much better understanding than so called "ESPN basketball insider", Jeff Goodman.

Take it to the Women's and strap this post down.

 

[Deepster]

Here's a tiny thing that struck me: "The Huskies are an incredible 112-2 over the last three years" -- four years ago they were 40-0, so he could have said "an incredible 152-2 (with three national championships) over the last four years", or "an incredible 111-1 since an early-season loss to Stanford in 2014." To pick a starting time just before the Stanford loss slightly undersells the UConn women's accomplishment.

So you really think saying "an incredible 112-2" DIMINISHES an accomplishment?

Please,tell me i am missing the sarcasm or joke in this.

 

[huskiesouth]

Not trying to too much of a Richard Head, but at this point what makes you think KO has the HOF as his ceiling? He caught lightening in a bottle one year as the team made a really improbable run during playoff and tourney time. Other than that he has been all Tom Crean all the time. In fact that rating may be generous unless he makes tourney next year.

Why potential HOF coach? KO is the head coach of the program which has won more NC than any other program since 1999.

Make the tournament this coming season - if the Huskies accomplish this feat, given the transfers, decommit, key players returning from serious injuries, graduations of experienced players, etc., KO should receive a Fast Pass to HOF consideration.

 

[ucp990411]

I read the boneyard every day and live and die with the program. Know KO a little and he is a great guy as far as I can tell but I want to know what the heck is going on. If these transfers didn't work hard enough how could they make so many mistakes in recruiting.

 

[TRest]

Why potential HOF coach? KO is the head coach of the program which has won more NC than any other program since 1999.

Make the tournament this coming season - if the Huskies accomplish this feat, given the transfers, decommit, key players returning from serious injuries, graduations of experienced players, etc., KO should receive a Fast Pass to HOF consideration.

Maybe we can make him governor also, there will be an opening.

 

[djct1999]

Compare any men's college program to the most dominant in the history of all of sport is silly.

 

[CTBasketball]

I mean the article is spot on...

 

[ucp990411]

I mean the article is spot on...

Yup

 

[Pudge]

Who the he'll is Doug Bonjour?


If you weren't around- the Horde - in our rise, what's up with your credibility to write in disgust. Needless to say ... we then find out they went to B.C. or Cuse and always dinged us. At some invisible internet blog.

 

[huskiesouth]

Maybe we can make him governor also, there will be an opening.

Too much respect for KO as a person to wish him any political job.

 

[Hoophound]

Not sure why every time we have a bad season we are "heading in the wrong direction". They even said this under JC. So weird how the press is so anxious to bury us all the time.

Granted, we haven't been looking good, but our coach won a title in 2014. You'd figure a professional writer would take a more measured approach in assessing the program. I realize we may be headed in the wrong direction, but as a writer, I'd be more level headed. I'm just a paranoid fan.

 

[UC313]

Lets put our backs to the wall again and see who comes out swingin. This aint nothin but posterboard material. This is gonna be a hard hat and lunch pail season.

" the world. Dont ask me for ish. Everything ya get ya gotta work hard for it."

 

[Pudge]

Would you be happier with Hobbs, Miller then Ollie recruiting ... Or Killings, Chillious then Ollie

Ollie (and Calhoun etc) encouraged this Transitional brotherhood & it had to change.

Before you whine about the guys that are leaving, that we didn't get or the current prospective entrants ... we HAD to make this change. Done. Insufferable amongst us can't wait a few months for our next look at results. Children. Anticipated that good things are coming .... versus Coal.

 

[LoveMeSomeUC]

At the absolute minimum for accomplishments, UConn Men's Hoops recruiting classes should qualify for the tourney before the postseason 3 of 4 years at school. Non of this JA chuck a full court shot crap just to get a 9 seed. Anything less is just sad.

 

[UConnNick]

Is there anything lamer than a journalist interviewing another journalist for an article?

It's somewhat unfair to bash the writer for including another journalist when he indicates he tried to interview AD Dave and he declined. I guess Dave may be pissed because the Post doesn't assign a beat writer anymore?

 

[tentoes4rings]

Why potential HOF coach? KO is the head coach of the program which has won more NC than any other program since 1999.

Make the tournament this coming season - if the Huskies accomplish this feat, given the transfers, decommit, key players returning from serious injuries, graduations of experienced players, etc., KO should receive a Fast Pass to HOF consideration.

Ha. If you had Hall of Fame voting credentials, 90% of players and coaches would be in! KO was the head coach for one of those 4 championships, and inherited a good squad to accomplish it. So now, if he just gets to the tourney with a team featuring Jalen Adams, Alterique Gilbert and Terry Larrier, he should get fast tracked to the Hall because 3 kids graduated and 4 he recruited bailed? On a board full of them, this is one of the funniest posts I've read yet. Thanks for the comic relief.

 

[Fishy]

I mean the article is spot on...

Yep - not really sure what people can dispute about it. There's no obligation on the part of the media to pretend that we're not a dumpster fire right now.

 

[temery]

Ha. If you had Hall of Fame voting credentials, 90% of players and coaches would be in! KO was the head coach for one of those 4 championships, and inherited a good squad to accomplish it. So now, if he just gets to the tourney with a team featuring Jalen Adams, Alterique Gilbert and Terry Larrier, he should get fast tracked to the Hall because 3 kids graduated and 4 he recruited bailed? On a board full of them, this is one of the funniest posts I've read yet. Thanks for the comic relief.

2014 championship is Ollie's. This crap that he did it with Calhoun recruits is just that - crap. He also owns everything bad that has happened since. But to throw out a national championship when evaluating Ollie as a coach, is as ridiculous as saying he's reached HOF status.

 

[3rdbass]

Yep - not really sure what people can dispute about it. There's no obligation on the part of the media to pretend that we're not a dumpster fire right now.

Yep, and KO staff better get some decent post grad players to fill in our roster or it might be another bad season for UCONN.

 

[UConn990411]

It's somewhat unfair to bash the writer for including another journalist when he indicates he tried to interview AD Dave and he declined. I guess Dave may be pissed because the Post doesn't assign a beat writer anymore?

One person declined an interview, so just give up? That's pure laziness.

 

[John Greene]

Why potential HOF coach? KO is the head coach of the program which has won more NC than any other program since 1999.

Make the tournament this coming season - if the Huskies accomplish this feat, given the transfers, decommit, key players returning from serious injuries, graduations of experienced players, etc., KO should receive a Fast Pass to HOF consideration.

I get it, you believe that any coach UConn hires is HOF material?

JC is HOF because he took an also ran program and turned it into a top level program. He did it in a conference that was arguably the best in CBB at the time. He regularly competed for and won conference regular season and tournament titles. Not to mention 3 NCAAs.

Not trying to be too negative on KO but even with scholarship restrictions, he started with a program that was miles better than it was when JC came to Storrs. Yet he has not been competitive in a far weaker conference. Yes he won a NC and deserves a lot of credit for that but to me it looks increasing like that "miracle" is the exception not the rule.

 

[tentoes4rings]

2014 championship is Ollie's. This crap that he did it with Calhoun recruits is just that - crap. He also owns everything bad that has happened since. But to throw out a national championship when evaluating Ollie as a coach, is as ridiculous as saying he's reached HOF status.

I'm not throwing it out at all, it was a miraculous accomplishment but should be put into perspective a little.

 

[pj]

So you really think saying "an incredible 112-2" DIMINISHES an accomplishment?

Please,tell me i am missing the sarcasm or joke in this.

Making the point that they went 152-2 so describing it as 112-2 is under-describing the accomplishment. Of course, at the level of accomplishment of the UConn women, even under-describing their accomplishments makes them seem Olympian.

As I said, it was a tiny thing. I prefer my sports journalists to be homers, and there's a dearth of homers in Connecticut sports journalism. Phil Chardis and Randy Smith before him were the last writers I really enjoyed.