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Nick made the 53 on Saturday. Lots of celebrating. Next thing the Falcons do is pick up a free agent receiver Sunday and today Nick gets cut. Stinks. These guys are merely commodities.
 
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Sony realize everyone is a bit preoccupied with the current UConn situation, but here's an alumni update:

Shamar Stephen, Vikings: Played a ton throughout the whole game on all downs. Finished with 3 tackles and recovered a game changing late fumble after Robison stripped Aaron Rogers.

Tyvon Branch, Cardinals: 9 tackles 1 pass deflection and a QB hit. Bounce back blowout win for the cards.

Darius Butler, Colts: Made a fantastic acrobatic interception and should have had an easy pick 6, but appeared to pop a hamstring and went down untouched. Was out for the rest of the game and likely longer.

Sio Moore had an ok day for the depleted but surprisingly stout Colts D. But he also got wrecked by a nasty stiff arm.

Others had unremarkable games, unless I missed someone.
 
Butler play was confusing. Looked bad at the time (noncontact leg injuries always do) seemed fine on the sidelines but never went back in despite being like the only Colts regular DBack who wasn't ALREADY hurt.
 
DiacosArmy said:
Butler play was confusing. Looked bad at the time (noncontact leg injuries always do) seemed fine on the sidelines but never went back in despite being like the only Colts regular DBack who wasn't ALREADY hurt.
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Thought that too, but the initial pop is sometimes the most painful part.

He actually was already hurt. He missed most of the preseason and game 1 due to leg injuries. Pressed into duty as the walking wounded and probably yanked the hammy compensating for the previous injury. Pretty common occurrence in the NFL.

Still, awesome play he made. That freaky athleticism we remember.
 
cryjeremiah said:
Still, awesome play he made. That freaky athleticism we remember.
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This has to make you appreciate just how good these players are. That Butler, as incredibly athletic and skilled as he is, is essentially a league-average cornerback, is amazing . . .
 
Excalibur said:
This has to make you appreciate just how good these players are. That Butler, as incredibly athletic and skilled as he is, is essentially a league-average cornerback, is amazing . . .
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Very, very true. Although, Butler is considered top-tier as a nickel corner covering the slot guy, which is more important than ever.

Tyvon Branch has been covering the slot quite effectively as well. Against NE he limited Edelman and Amendola pretty well all game.
 
Excalibur said:
This has to make you appreciate just how good these players are. That Butler, as incredibly athletic and skilled as he is, is essentially a league-average cornerback, is amazing . . .
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The common theme with those two, other than the fact that they played together is that they are both freakishly quick.
 
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cryjeremiah said:
Very, very true. Although, Butler is considered top-tier as a nickel corner covering the slot guy, which is more important than ever.

Tyvon Branch has been covering the slot quite effectively as well. Against NE he limited Edelman and Amendola pretty well all game.
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Butler has a defined skill that he is very good at. It's what keeps him in the league since with his years of service he's comparatively expensive.
 
Andrew Adams sighting. He's been on the field for special teams, kick-off and punt returns for the Giants. He gets a nice salary boost for this, no?
 
Bezzz said:
Andrew Adams sighting. He's been on the field for special teams, kick-off and punt returns for the Giants. He gets a nice salary boost for this, no?
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Yes, he will most likely be getting the rookie minimum prorated per game. But..............he gets that salary for a minimum of three games even if they put him back on the practice squad.

Rookie minimum is about $450k this year, so he will pull in about $85K for the three games. At least.
 
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Papadukes said:
Andrew just made a big mistake. Hope he recovers
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Yeah, that's gonna hurt. But somebody clarify why that's a personal foul? None of those three guys running down the field are aware of the blocked kick? Being unaware, he basically took his guy out of the play like he's supposed to. If it's simply because it was up a bit high, I don't get it. I mean, that guy is in no way defenseless. Maybe I just underestimate how sissy the league has become??

Edit: maybe he hit the guy while he was still out of bounds, I didn't think of that.
 
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cryjeremiah said:
Yeah, that's gonna hurt. But somebody clarify why that's a personal foul? None of those three guys running down the field are aware of the blocked kick? Being unaware, he basically took his guy out of the play like he's supposed to. If it's simply because it was up a bit high, I don't get it. I mean, that guy is in no way defenseless. Maybe I just underestimate how sissy the league has become??

Edit: maybe he hit the guy while he was still out of bounds, I didn't think of that.
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Well for his sake, hopefully it will get lost amongst the other 47 Giants penalties today.
 
cryjeremiah said:
Yeah, that's gonna hurt. But somebody clarify why that's a personal foul? None of those three guys running down the field are aware of the blocked kick? Being unaware, he basically took his guy out of the play like he's supposed to. If it's simply because it was up a bit high, I don't get it. I mean, that guy is in no way defenseless. Maybe I just underestimate how sissy the league has become??

Edit: maybe he hit the guy while he was still out of bounds, I didn't think of that.
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Can't tell if this is serious.

The UR personal foul had little to do with the Redskins' gunner being defenseless. It was a combination of 1) the hit being at or above the shoulders. and 2) the pandemic of levels of former players committing suicide, rampant marijuana use to aid in the recovery from injury, and instances of CTE in nearly 100% former NFL players' brains tested. Real sissy stuff.

Refs are hyper cognizant about anything up high. Not to mention the "block" was indeed unnecessary. Regardless if Adams knew if the punt was blocked, he had to have had a notion that the play was no where near him.

To you and I, football is entertainment. A way to pass a weekend afternoon. To these guys, it is literally their life and there is no reason not to take precautions
 
Husky25 said:
Can't tell if this is serious.

The UR personal foul had little to do with the Redskins' gunner being defenseless. It was a combination of 1) the hit being at or above the shoulders. and 2) the pandemic of levels of former players committing suicide, rampant marijuana use to aid in the recovery from injury, and instances of CTE in nearly 100% former NFL players' brains tested. Real sissy stuff.

Refs are hyper cognizant about anything up high. Not to mention the "block" was indeed unnecessary. Regardless if Adams knew if the punt was blocked, he had to have had a notion that the play was no where near him.

To you and I, football is entertainment. A way to pass a weekend afternoon. To these guys, it is literally their life and there is no reason not to take precautions
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Um, I get all that, but these two guys are running down the field together. In the same direction. The simple physics don't allow for that to be a dangerous play at all. If that's going to garner a flag, then football should just throw in the towel.

And I'm not just a entertainment junkie or some concussion denier, I've actually worked on and studied numerous CTE (not an actual diagnosis) cases and determined the cause and damage of head trauma.

And I don't know if you have ever played football or even seen it in person, but gunners, receivers, or other players running downfield NEVER know something has happened at the ball, like a botched snap or fumble or blocked kick.
 
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If you sincerely "get all that," there should be no, "but."

Why do I get the feeling if the play didn't involve the Giants or a former UConn player, it passes without comment? The flag was thrown and it was the right call.
 
Husky25 said:
If you sincerely "get all that," there should be no, "but."

Why do I get the feeling if the play didn't involve the Giants or a former UConn player, it passes without comment? The flag was thrown and it was the right call.
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If he was out of bounds or if they ruled he wasn't allowing the guy to return to the field, then fine. But if it is singularly for contact to the head, I disagree that two men running down the field at the same speed should warrant that kind of flag. Regardless of UConn relationship. Look at my post history if you must, I've had no issue calling out any UConn player or coach. I don't know why you get that feeling. Is your bias showing?

The "but" you are referring to is the simple truth that personal foul/contact to the head/ targeting calls are all over the place and have no consistency. Have you listened to Rich Eisen at all. There is no continuity across football and it's a problem. My neighbor (played WR and special teams at WVU recently) watched it with me and agreed. He said only if the guy was out of bounds. For what it's worth.
 
Well as long as your neighbor agrees with you, that's good enough for me (i.e not worth a whole lot).:rolleyes: Thing is, that is the rule, and as far as being a problem, it is not. The inconsistency and absence of common sense in determining what constitutes a catch is a problem. Calling a penalty on a head shots at or around the neck is looking out for the best interest of players within the context of a fairly brutal game.

I was at the Big E on Sunday but had the game on DVR (Low and behold, through disabling my Google and fantasy alerts, I actually was able to avoid all conduits of the game and final score until 8:00 that night). Unfortunately, I erased it and I can't find a replay of a play that technically doesn't exist, except for the offsetting penalties. However, as I recall, they were not just running down the field. The 'Skins gunner was out of bounds and 1) as he was coming back in, Adams hit him, 2) up at or above the shoulders. He's supposed to let the guy back in bounds, but I don't think merely preventing a guy from doing so is grounds for an unsportsmanlike personal foul.

Be that as it may, this is not a controversial call. If it were, why, in the day of faux outrage and contrarian opinions, aren't literally any other New York-centric source making as big of a deal of it? One (nj.com) goes so far as to say that Adams "launched" into the defender. Another called it bone headed.

That said, I'm done with this topic. There are certainly other, probably more mundane, matters of UConn discourse upon which I can waste my time.
 
Papadukes said:
Andrew just made a big mistake. Hope he recovers
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He recovered... started @ Safety tonight.
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huskymedic said:
He recovered... started @ Safety tonight.
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cryjeremiah said:
In on at least 3 big plays already. Saved a TD with an ankle tackle on McKinnon, tackle for loss on Diggs and also blew up McKinnon and broke up the pass to the flat.
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Adams ended up w/ 2 solo tackles and 4 assists. Shamar Stephen finished w/ 1 assist.
 
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