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Someone’s going to throw their back out dragging these goal posts so far across the field.
SicknessHe just doesn’t have the outside shot yet, which he definitely will develop.
Dunning-KrugerSickness
He’s a second year player. Also Duren has more of a scoring bag, he faces up and drives well now because he is quick and strong as hell. He just doesn’t have the outside shot yet, which he definitely will develop.
I should’ve been clearer, I was saying that Duren doesn’t have the outside shot.After a slow start, he's now shooting 34.4% from 3. Since December began, he's made 17 out of 35 (48.6%). So I'd say he does have the outside shot already. He needs to continue to hit it consistently, but he's really been knocking them down of late.
It's the same kind of "logic" behind some posters observing that Solo Ball went 0-1 from the FT line last game and then remarking:Fun read lol. I’ll add my two cents again: assuming one focus of improvement comes at the expense of the other seems silly to me. His full-time job is getting better at basketball. All aspects of Clingan’s game are undoubtedly already improving and will continue to improve because he’s motivated, hard-working, and being paid many millions to make those strides. There is nothing here to argue about from my perspective.
I should’ve been clearer, I was saying that Duren doesn’t have the outside shot.
This times 1,000. It appears, as superjohn pointed out above, HW doesn't actually watch his games. If he did he would see it for himself, hear the announcers commenting on it, Tiago Splitter noting it in interviews.Part of the excitement is coming from the fact that his post footwork is better every game. People that watch the game can see it. They can also see that he's not one of Portland scoring threats yet but his facilitation is very mature for a player of his age. So harping on totals while he's still growing his game is what I call "you missed a spot over there" analysis. But again, if some people can't see it in the numbers, then it didn't happen.
There is not unlimited time in the day to work on all your skills at once. You make choices and have focuses.Fun read lol. I’ll add my two cents again: assuming one focus of improvement comes at the expense of the other seems silly to me. His full-time job is getting better at basketball. All aspects of Clingan’s game are undoubtedly already improving and will continue to improve because he’s motivated, hard-working, and being paid many millions to make those strides. There is nothing here to argue about from my perspective.
Every player gets up a ton of shots each day. Good thing for DC because he has improved his 3pt shooting. He has also improved some low post stuff. Both seem to be working, you’re opinion on this isn’t shared by those that do this for a living.There is not unlimited time in the day to work on all your skills at once. You make choices and have focuses.
It’s why players have certain focus areas all the time going into summers.
If you put a heavy emphasis on one thing, like shooting, it’ll naturally take away time investing in other skills.
There is not unlimited time in the day to work on all your skills at once. You make choices and have focuses.
It’s why players have certain focus areas all the time going into summers.
If you put a heavy emphasis on one thing, like shooting, it’ll naturally take away time investing in other skills.
I don't spend as much time on these boards as I used to but I feel comfortable saying you're one of the worst posters we've ever had. Really, really impressive.You’re saying these things that don’t mean anything. He’s expanding his scoring repertoire but it doesn’t actually amount to more consistent scoring.
Guys that don’t have that expanded repertoire are scoring better than him. So what does it matter?
This is the stuff that bums me out. Where this board gets way happier for him to knock down 3s while scoring 12 points instead of highlighting his improved post work (that you doubted) which ace posted about.
Just prioritizing the wrong things.
All in all. This board is getting very excited about DC having a hot streak of 3 point shooting that has led to one 24 point game and a few 18 point outings at best.
That is not a sign of a tremendous scoring breakthrough and doesn’t take away from the fact he should be prioritizing developing his game at the rim more.
Specifically in his last five games he’s had:
12
24
11
6
18
I’m not sure what scoring breakthrough we’re celebrating here. It doesn’t change the fact that if he wants to be an actual and consistent scoring threat, the best way to do so would be to prioritize becoming a paint threat over 3 point threat.
Him having a few great games where he’s scoring the players spoken on before averages does not change that fact.
Never is a long time, buddyDC will never be a good post scorer.
Yep and sometimes never never comes.Never is a long time, buddy
TBH, I'm not enjoying this as much as I thought I would. It's like watching two of my kids fight.Tonight I will watch Castle vs Cam (Spurs vs Memphis) to see 2 UConn greats on one game.
Cam playing really well. Steph has been struggling pretty heavily last 5 or so games. Really shooting poorly, getting his shot blocked a lot and of course, far too many turnovers.TBH, I'm not enjoying this as much as I thought I would. It's like watching two of my kids fight.
In season isn’t a time for improving skills. You only have time to maintain the ones you came into the year with.Fundamentally that’s sound logic, but when you put it in context of basketball as a full-time job I think it crumbles. It’s not like a high school coach trying to manage time in a 90 minute to two hour practice window when everyone has school, day job, homework, etc. to take care of. And especially Donovan as a very young man and early in his career doesn’t have (presumably) major head-of-household responsibilities and other business ventures eating into his game improvement time. He could spend two hours a day working on post moves, another two on shooting threes, another two on strength and conditioning, and still have far more fill-in-the-blank time than probably anyone on the boneyard could fathom. Maybe a messy illustration by me cuz no one (other than Cam Spencer perhaps) would do that every day with an NBA game schedule in-season but you must understand my point.
This is what I mean when I say you all take the side of our guys not being able to get better at something and it’s weird.DC will never be a good post scorer. Bad feel/touch and poor balance. Probably bc his ridiculously long legs and high center of gravity. His best bet to be an effective offensive player is as a shooter and rim runner. Glad you’re not his coach .
This take won't age well either putting a ceiling on him. His touch is already getting better and he's shown some things in the post we haven't seen from him before. With his size, work ethic, and love for the game he's going to keep improving aspects of his game. He's 21.DC will never be a good post scorer. Bad feel/touch and poor balance. Probably bc his ridiculously long legs and high center of gravity. His best bet to be an effective offensive player is as a shooter and rim runner. Glad you’re not his coach .