You are beyond obstinate. Do you even know what the word context means? The reason Donovan hasn't scored more is because that isn't what the Blazers are asking of him. They don't pound the ball down low to him because they don't have a point guard to get it there.Mind you, Clingan has two games where he’s scored above 20 points this year. Zubac has 6 and Duren has 11. Including 30 point games. In less games played than Clingan.
In one of those 20 point Clingan outings he was 1 of 4 from 3 and he hasn’t scored 25.
I’m not sure what this victory lap is about.
See my previous post for the "facts". If he wants to be an "actual and consistent scoring threat" he should take his salary and buy a point guard.All in all. This board is getting very excited about DC having a hot streak of 3 point shooting that has led to one 24 point game and a few 18 point outings at best.
That is not a sign of a tremendous scoring breakthrough and doesn’t take away from the fact he should be prioritizing developing his game at the rim more.
Specifically in his last five games he’s had:
12
24
11
6
18
I’m not sure what scoring breakthrough we’re celebrating here. It doesn’t change the fact that if he wants to be an actual and consistent scoring threat, the best way to do so would be to prioritize becoming a paint threat over 3 point threat.
Him having a few great games where he’s scoring the players spoken on before averages does not change that fact.
His rim game definitely needs work, as Cling isn't going to make a living off shooting the 3. The dude is so big, and has such good passing skills, not sure why he doesn't look to a guy like Jokic to model some stuff after. His challenge is just going to be that his feet are a bit clumsy.All in all. This board is getting very excited about DC having a hot streak of 3 point shooting that has led to one 24 point game and a few 18 point outings at best.
That is not a sign of a tremendous scoring breakthrough and doesn’t take away from the fact he should be prioritizing developing his game at the rim more.
Specifically in his last five games he’s had:
12
24
11
6
18
I’m not sure what scoring breakthrough we’re celebrating here. It doesn’t change the fact that if he wants to be an actual and consistent scoring threat, the best way to do so would be to prioritize becoming a paint threat over 3 point threat.
Him having a few great games where he’s scoring the players spoken on before averages does not change that fact.
All in all. This board is getting very excited about DC having a hot streak of 3 point shooting that has led to one 24 point game and a few 18 point outings at best.
That is not a sign of a tremendous scoring breakthrough and doesn’t take away from the fact he should be prioritizing developing his game at the rim more.
Specifically in his last five games he’s had:
12
24
11
6
18
I’m not sure what scoring breakthrough we’re celebrating here. It doesn’t change the fact that if he wants to be an actual and consistent scoring threat, the best way to do so would be to prioritize becoming a paint threat over 3 point threat.
Him having a few great games where he’s scoring the players spoken on before averages does not change that fact.
Excited because expanding his scoring repertoire bodes well for his overall game. The fact that it bums you out that he is shooting very well is pretty funny.All in all. This board is getting very excited about DC having a hot streak of 3 point shooting that has led to one 24 point game and a few 18 point outings at best.
That is not a sign of a tremendous scoring breakthrough and doesn’t take away from the fact he should be prioritizing developing his game at the rim more.
Specifically in his last five games he’s had:
12
24
11
6
18
I’m not sure what scoring breakthrough we’re celebrating here. It doesn’t change the fact that if he wants to be an actual and consistent scoring threat, the best way to do so would be to prioritize becoming a paint threat over 3 point threat.
Him having a few great games where he’s scoring the players spoken on before averages does not change that fact.
You seem like a relatively smart guy
You’re saying these things that don’t mean anything. He’s expanding his scoring repertoire but it doesn’t actually amount to more consistent scoring.Excited because expanding his scoring repertoire bodes well for his overall game. The fact that it bums you out that he is shooting very well is pretty funny.
I’ve been saying the Jokic thing since he was here. But some people on this board don’t believe someone can improve anything besides 3 point shooting.His rim game definitely needs work, as Cling isn't going to make a living off shooting the 3. The dude is so big, and has such good passing skills, not sure why he doesn't look to a guy like Jokic to model some stuff after. His challenge is just going to be that his feet are a bit clumsy.
I mean listen, you don't draft a 7'2" rebounding rim protector for this 3 point shooting prowess. It's merely a "nice to have". Key for Cling will be demonstrating some efficiency on offense near the basket. He's a giant target. I guess I just wonder if that is something he can manufacture given his lower half isn't exactly the most graceful. He's got great hands, not so much with the feet.I’ve been saying the Jokic thing since he was here. But some people on this board don’t believe someone can improve anything besides 3 point shooting.
Jokic doesn’t miss in the paint and he’s unguaradable from the FT line down one on one. But the only thing some people will recognize about his game is that he can shoot.
Think his footwork and base aren’t anything that some S&C and drills can’t fix over the years.I mean listen, you don't draft a 7'2" rebounding rim protector for this 3 point shooting prowess. It's merely a "nice to have". Key for Cling will be demonstrating some efficiency on offense near the basket. He's a giant target. I guess I just wonder if that is something he can manufacture given his lower half isn't exactly the most graceful. He's got great hands, not so much with the feet.
Definitely the key. The Blazers have guys that can score in space (Deni and Shaedon). Pulling a big out of the paint and letting them cook is valuableIn fairness to DC, one of those missed threes was a scramble where he ended up with the ball late in the shot-clock and had to chuck up a turnaround prayer. The best part about all of this for the Blazers is defenders are now actively challenging him and coming out of the paint.
You seem to think anything/everything is teachable. If it was that easy, everyone would be an all pro.Think his footwork and base aren’t anything that some S&C and drills can’t fix over the years.
Your first paragraph makes no sense. Actually the entire post makes no sense.You’re saying these things that don’t mean anything. He’s expanding his scoring repertoire but it doesn’t actually amount to more consistent scoring.
Guys that don’t have that expanded repertoire are scoring better than him. So what does it matter?
This is the stuff that bums me out. Where this board gets way happier for him to knock down 3s while scoring 12 points instead of highlighting his improved post work (that you doubted) which ace posted about.
Just prioritizing the wrong things.
Not everyone has the right teaching, work ethic, and advisors.You seem to think anything/everything is teachable. If it was that easy, everyone would be an all pro.
I think we generally agree on where Clingan should get his shots but the back to back 18s and the 24 are really big deal. 24 is his career high, the 18s are up there. I think being able to having those scoring games is huge for a 2nd year guy whose draft profile was “DPOY level rim protector with a very raw offense”All in all. This board is getting very excited about DC having a hot streak of 3 point shooting that has led to one 24 point game and a few 18 point outings at best.
That is not a sign of a tremendous scoring breakthrough and doesn’t take away from the fact he should be prioritizing developing his game at the rim more.
Specifically in his last five games he’s had:
12
24
11
6
18
I’m not sure what scoring breakthrough we’re celebrating here. It doesn’t change the fact that if he wants to be an actual and consistent scoring threat, the best way to do so would be to prioritize becoming a paint threat over 3 point threat.
Him having a few great games where he’s scoring the players spoken on before averages does not change that fact.
He’s expanding his scoring repertoire but it doesn’t actually amount to more consistent scoring.Your first paragraph makes no sense. Actually the entire post makes no sense.
You clearly don't watch his games. I sincerely hope you can undertand statistics and sample size but who knows...
Over Clingan's first 19 games of the season he shot 49% on two pointers and 25% on three pointers. His last 14 games he shot 68% on two pointers and 49% on three pointers.
His entire offensive game is improving as is his rebounding.
If you don't an NBA franchise who has millions invested in a player doesn't have the right resources, then I don't know who would. You use this application against too many scenarios, as if anyone had the right teacher, they could become something they very well may not be able to become.Not everyone has the right teaching, work ethic, and advisors.
I’d go more in depth but it’d be largely pointless.
Part of the excitement is coming from the fact that his post footwork is better every game. People that watch the game can see it. They can also see that he's not one of Portland scoring threats yet but his facilitation is very mature for a player of his age. So harping on totals while he's still growing his game is what I call "you missed a spot over there" analysis. But again, if some people can't see it in the numbers, then it didn't happen.I’ve been saying the Jokic thing since he was here. But some people on this board don’t believe someone can improve anything besides 3 point shooting.
I’m happy for those outings. My overall point is that they aren’t a sign that him focusing on 3s is a good thing, which we agree on. The 18 point outings involved him making 1 and 2 threes. 3s weren’t a big part of those scoring nights to have a “keep shooting big fella” celebration party.I think we generally agree on where Clingan should get his shots but the back to back 18s and the 24 are really big deal. 24 is his career high, the 18s are up there. I think being able to having those scoring games is huge for a 2nd year guy whose draft profile was “DPOY level rim protector with a very raw offense”
Some days he’ll go 3-5 from three, some days he’ll go 0-3 but will go 7-7 on twos. I don’t think he’ll ever be a major post up threat because of how his body is, but I think he will long term be the most effective if 70-80% of his shots are close and 20-30 are from three
Roll man/lob threat that will occasionally step out and drain a three is a great profile and with enough volume could end up being around 15-18 PPG in a few years
I mean, Jokic is kind of the prime example of this.If you don't an NBA franchise who has millions invested in a player doesn't have the right resources, then I don't know who would. You use this application against too many scenarios, as if anyone had the right teacher, they could become something they very well may not be able to become.
He averaged 12.6 ppg over his last 14 games shooting 68% on two pointers and 49% on three pointers.He’s expanding his scoring repertoire but it doesn’t actually amount to more consistent scoring.
Guys that don’t have that expanded repertoire are scoring better than him. So what does it matter?
Proceeds to show percentages and not actual scoring output.
He’s a second year player. Also Duren has more of a scoring bag, he faces up and drives well now because he is quick and strong as hell. He just doesn’t have the outside shot yet, which he definitely will develop.He’s expanding his scoring repertoire but it doesn’t actually amount to more consistent scoring.
Guys that don’t have that expanded repertoire are scoring better than him. So what does it matter?
Proceeds to show percentages and not actual scoring output.