UConn gets APR score of 947 - 2-year score surpasses NCAA benchmark

[huskiesnyc]

Providence is cutting it awfully close. If they don't get a high score for this season they are out.

 

[UConn Dan]

We will need a 969+ for the 2012-13 academic year (released a year from now) to qualify for the 2015 tourney.

 

[bmo22]

Providence is cutting it awfully close. If they don't get a high score for this season they are out.

PC rarely makes the NCAA Tournament anyway. An inadequate APR score would finally give them a legit excuse for not making it. Rather than simply having a bad team, per usual.

 

[specialisthusky]

We will need a 969+ for the 2012-13 academic year (released a year from now) to qualify for the 2015 tourney.

a 933 would give us a 2 year average of 940 which would also qualify us.

 

[huskiesnyc]

PC rarely makes the NCAA Tournament anyway. An inadequate APR score would finally give them a legit excuse for not making it. Rather than simply having a bad team, per usual.

I know but it couldn't happen to a better group of scumbags who celebrated our retroactive unjust punishment. Karma

 

[UConn Dan]

a 933 would give us a 2 year average of 940 which would also qualify us.

nope... next year we will be required to meet both the four year and the two year average...

 

[specialisthusky]

nope... next year we will be required to meet both the four year and the two year average...

"For 2014-2015, the schools falling below the four-year rolling average of 930 would need a two-year average of 940, and by 2015-2016, the two-year average will be non-existent."
http://collegebasketballtalk.nbcspo...a-to-consider-delaying-some-academic-reforms/

There is one more year of the two year average.

 

[caw]

We will need a 969+ for the 2012-13 academic year (released a year from now) to qualify for the 2015 tourney.

a 933 would give us a 2 year average of 940 which would also qualify us.

nope... next year we will be required to meet both the four year and the two year average...

Where do you see that. I see the following:

Academics

Change​

Effective Date​

Postseason Access – APR Requirement​

2012-13 and 2013-14 postseasons = either 900 four-year average or 930 average over most recent two years
2014-15 postseason = either 930 four-year average or 940 average over most recent two years
2015-2016 postseason and beyond = 930 four-year average​

New APP Penalty Structure and Filters​

2012-13 and 2013-14 = 900 four-year average
2014-15 and beyond = 930 four-year average​

 

[UConn Dan]

Where do you see that. I see the following:

Academics

Change​

Effective Date​

Postseason Access – APR Requirement​

2012-13 and 2013-14 postseasons = either 900 four-year average or 930 average over most recent two years​

2014-15 postseason = either 930 four-year average or 940 average over most recent two years​

2015-2016 postseason and beyond = 930 four-year average​

New APP Penalty Structure and Filters​

2012-13 and 2013-14 = 900 four-year average​

2014-15 and beyond = 930 four-year average​

Thanks for the clarification fellas. Looks like one of our beat writer's was passing out bad info.

 

[caw]

Thanks for the clarification fellas. Looks like one of our beat writer's was passing out bad info.

I dunno, I could be wrong. I haven't seen any other release from ncaa.org on it though.

 

[huskiesnyc]

PC needs at least a 951 for the 2012-13 academic year or they're banned. It will be interesting to see how Ricky Ledo finishes up, as I don't think he or Sidiki Johnson completed the 2nd semester.

 

[FriarJ]

PC needs at least a 951 for the 2012-13 academic year or they're banned.

We will have it, Council graduated, everybody has a good grade point and nobody transferred except Sidiki who was granted a medical exception and does not count for the 2nd semester. Ledo is like the Kentucky kids, had a good GPA and turned pro.

 

[upstater]

PC needs at least a 951 for the 2012-13 academic year or they're banned. It will be interesting to see how Ricky Ledo finishes up, as I don't think he or Sidiki Johnson completed the 2nd semester.

Fortunately for PC, it just doesn't matter.

On the other hand, Kris Dunn may get a get-out-of-jail-free card just when UConn might need him.

 

[huskiesnyc]

We will have it, Council graduated, everybody has a good grade point and nobody transferred except Sidiki who was granted a medical exception and does not count for the 2nd semester. Ledo is like the Kentucky kids, had a good GPA and turned pro.

We will see. PC hasn't scored better than 929 in each of the past 4 seasons.

09- 896
10- 904
11- 917
12- 929

 

[caw]

PC needs at least a 951 for the 2012-13 academic year or they're banned.

They could theoretically get a 949 or even lower. It depends on how many points they would have each year.

It depends on how many scholarship/points they have had the past four years. For example: If they had 48 (12 scholarships) in year one, 52 (13 scholarships) in year two, 40 (10 scholarships) in year three and then 52 (13 scholarships) in year four. They wouldn't need 951 for that individual year, they would just need to have 87 of 92 points to get a score above 940 for the two year average.

These don't reflect the actual point totals, but are just an example.

 

[caw]

We will have it, Council graduated, everybody has a good grade point and nobody transferred except Sidiki who was granted a medical exception and does not count for the 2nd semester. Ledo is like the Kentucky kids, had a good GPA and turned pro.

You also said that PC had a high score for this year

Dixon graduated and all others left in good standing. Top notch APR's this last year. One graduation and no transfers, everybody got good grades. We are ok, but any transfers with kids in bad academic shape and we would have been cooked.

...and it was only 929.

Forgive me if I don't quite trust you on this matter. You may be right but you don't have the greatest track record in regards to predicting PC's APR.

 

[FriarJ]

They could theoretically get a 949 or even lower. It depends on how many points they would have each year.

It depends on how many scholarship/points they have had the past four years. For example: If they had 48 (12 scholarships) in year one, 52 (13 scholarships) in year two, 40 (10 scholarships) in year three and then 52 (13 scholarships) in year four. They wouldn't need 951 for that individual year, they would just need to have 87 of 92 points to get a score above 940 for the two year average.

These don't reflect the actual point totals, but are just an example.

You got it down man, very impressive.

 

[caw]

Fortunately for PC, it just doesn't matter.

On the other hand, Kris Dunn may get a get-out-of-jail-free card just when UConn might need him.

Dunn would be a junior that year sadly. Henton might be eligible for an Oriakhi move though (if PC were below the line).

 

[FriarJ]

You also said that PC had a high score for this year



...and it was only 929.

Forgive me if I don't quite trust you on this matter. You may be right but you don't have the greatest track record in regards to predicting PC's APR.

I was talking about 12-13 when I said this year. 11-12 while being released now is last year to me. I know what I meant but I can see the confusion.

 

[caw]

I was talking about 12-13 when I said this year. 11-12 while being released now is last year to me. I know what I meant but I can see the confusion.

Considering it was following a sentence in regards to Dixon graduating and the transfers leaving in good standing, it wasn't clear.

Either way you were wrong on one (or more) of those (Dixon/transfers) or the current players were a problem academically.

 

[FriarJ]

Considering it was following a sentence in regards to Dixon graduating and the transfers leaving in good standing, it wasn't clear.

Either way you were wrong on one (or more) of those (Dixon/transfers) or the current players were a problem academically.

Yes, you are correct. I addressed being wrong in the other thread and hopefully you can give me some insight on it.

 

[caw]

Best I can figure UConn lost two points, 36/38 = .9473.

Had a scholarship roster of 10:

1. Alex Oriakhi (transfer*)
2. Roscoe Smith (transfer)
3. Michael Bradley (transfer)
4. Jeremy Lamb (NBA)
5. Shabazz Napier (retained)
6. Niels Giffey (retained)
7. Enosch Wolf (retained)
8. Tyler Olander (retained)
9. Ryan Boatright (retained)
10. DeAndre Daniels (retained)

Based on that the total would be 40 points. Three transfers, two with the required GPA score to remove a point from the base. One didn't and is responsible for at least one of the two points. It's also possible Oriakhi's retention point was calculated differently than normal and all three transfers were OK. If that is the case than the lost points would come from the non-transfers.

This past year UConn had 11 scholarship players:

1. RJ Evans (graduated)
2. Shabazz Napier (retained)
3. Niels Giffey (retained)
4. Enosch Wolf (???)
5. Tyler Olander (retained)
6. Ryan Boatright (retained)
7. DeAndre Daniels (retained)
8. Omar Calhoun (retained)
9. Philip Nolan (retained)
10. Leon Tolksdorf (retained)
11. Brendan Allen (one year scholarship)

So the base looks to be 44 points. Considering Evans graduated and the rest came back aside from Wolf. The two year base will be somewhere between 82 (38+44), or 81 (38+43) depending on Wolf. To reach a two year score of 940, UConn can only lose four total points (78/82 = 951) or (77/81 = 951).

If my calculations are correct UConn has already lost two points from 2011-2012. So UConn can only afford to lose 2 points from 2012-2013. If Wolf isn't retained and UConn loses the retention point for it, than UConn only has one point leeway. If Wolf is either retained or there is an exception for his situation than UConn has two points leeway.

 

[UC990411]

Best I can figure UConn lost two points, 36/38 = .9473.

Had a scholarship roster of 10:

1. 
   [ ]Alex Oriakhi (transfer*)
   [ ]Roscoe Smith (transfer)
   [ ]Michael Bradley (transfer)
   [ ]Jeremy Lamb (NBA)
   [ ]Shabazz Napier (retained)
   [ ]Niels Giffey (retained)
   [ ]Enosch Wolf (retained)
   [ ]Tyler Olander (retained)
   [ ]Ryan Boatright (retained)
   [ ]DeAndre Daniels (retained)

Based on that the total would be 40 points. Three transfers, two with the required GPA score to remove a point from the base. One didn't and is responsible for at least one of the two points. It's also possible Oriakhi's retention point was calculated differently than normal and all three transfers were OK. If that is the case than the lost points would come from the non-transfers.

This past year UConn had 11 scholarship players:

1. 
   [ ]RJ Evans (graduated)
   [ ]Shabazz Napier (retained)
   [ ]Niels Giffey (retained)
   [ ]Enosch Wolf (???)
   [ ]Tyler Olander (retained)
   [ ]Ryan Boatright (retained)
   [ ]DeAndre Daniels (retained)
   [ ]Omar Calhoun (retained)
   [ ]Philip Nolan (retained)
   [ ]Leon Tolksdorf (retained)
   [ ]Brendan Allen (one year scholarship)

So the base looks to be 44 points. Considering Evans graduated and the rest came back aside from Wolf. The two year base will be somewhere between 82 (38+44), or 81 (38+43) depending on Wolf. To reach a two year score of 940, UConn can only lose four total points (78/82 = 951) or (77/81 = 951).

If my calculations are correct UConn has already lost two points from 2011-2012. So UConn can only afford to lose 2 points from 2012-2013. If Wolf isn't retained and UConn loses the retention point for it, than UConn only has one point leeway. If Wolf is either retained or there is an exception for his situation than UConn has two points leeway.

That's not good, right?

 

[upstater]

Best I can figure UConn lost two points, 36/38 = .9473.

Had a scholarship roster of 10:

1. 
   [ ]Alex Oriakhi (transfer*)
   [ ]Roscoe Smith (transfer)
   [ ]Michael Bradley (transfer)
   [ ]Jeremy Lamb (NBA)
   [ ]Shabazz Napier (retained)
   [ ]Niels Giffey (retained)
   [ ]Enosch Wolf (retained)
   [ ]Tyler Olander (retained)
   [ ]Ryan Boatright (retained)
   [ ]DeAndre Daniels (retained)

Based on that the total would be 40 points. Three transfers, two with the required GPA score to remove a point from the base. One didn't and is responsible for at least one of the two points. It's also possible Oriakhi's retention point was calculated differently than normal and all three transfers were OK. If that is the case than the lost points would come from the non-transfers.

This past year UConn had 11 scholarship players:

1. 
   [ ]RJ Evans (graduated)
   [ ]Shabazz Napier (retained)
   [ ]Niels Giffey (retained)
   [ ]Enosch Wolf (???)
   [ ]Tyler Olander (retained)
   [ ]Ryan Boatright (retained)
   [ ]DeAndre Daniels (retained)
   [ ]Omar Calhoun (retained)
   [ ]Philip Nolan (retained)
   [ ]Leon Tolksdorf (retained)
   [ ]Brendan Allen (one year scholarship)

So the base looks to be 44 points. Considering Evans graduated and the rest came back aside from Wolf. The two year base will be somewhere between 82 (38+44), or 81 (38+43) depending on Wolf. To reach a two year score of 940, UConn can only lose four total points (78/82 = 951) or (77/81 = 951).

If my calculations are correct UConn has already lost two points from 2011-2012. So UConn can only afford to lose 2 points from 2012-2013. If Wolf isn't retained and UConn loses the retention point for it, than UConn only has one point leeway. If Wolf is either retained or there is an exception for his situation than UConn has two points leeway.

Based on precedent, Wolf will not count against UConn. Miles didn't count against them, so Wolf won't either.

 

[Penfield]

I believe Michael Bradley cost us a point (or 2) because he transferred to a Junior College. By all accounts he was a good student which apparently doesn't matter.