UConn gets APR score of 947 - 2-year score surpasses NCAA benchmark

[husky99]

COURANT SPORTS ALERT: UConn gets APR score of 947 - 2-year score surpasses NCAA benchmark http://cour.at/11tbE3O *Txt STOP UCONNMB 2quit

 

[Dann]

texas tech will get put on probation for this

 

[HuskyBballFan]

Brett McMurphy's been tweeting the football scores from around the country. Not a single one (so far) scored less than 900. It didn't take long - coaches and ADs know exactly how to play the game now. I'd be pretty surprised if we see another major program miss the postseason threshold going forward - especially once the scores from 2-3 years ago (before the new rules were established) come off the books.

The NCAA, I'm sure, will claim that the APR cured college sports of its academic problems.

 

[upstater]

Brett McMurphy's been tweeting the football scores from around the country. Not a single one (so far) scored less than 900. It didn't take long - coaches and ADs know exactly how to play the game now. I'd be pretty surprised if we see another major program miss the postseason threshold going forward - especially once the scores from 2-3 years ago (before the new rules were established) come off the books.

The NCAA, I'm sure, will claim that the APR cured college sports of its academic problems.

I'd like to know Harvard's score. They missed the threshold last year.

It would be ironic to see the Kentucky's get great APR scores while the Ivies are the only ones that miss.

 

[champs99and04]

I'd like to know Harvard's score. They missed the threshold last year.

It would be ironic to see the Kentucky's get great APR scores while the Ivies are the only ones that miss.

Football scores, not basketball.

 

[specialisthusky]

I'd like to know Harvard's score. They missed the threshold last year.

It would be ironic to see the Kentucky's get great APR scores while the Ivies are the only ones that miss.

http://web1.ncaa.org/maps/aprRelease.jsp

Of course this only shows multi-year rates

 

[upstater]

http://web1.ncaa.org/maps/aprRelease.jsp

Of course this only shows multi-year rates

You can extrapolate it pretty easily. The only way to drop as far as Harvard did last year is to score between 915-925 (I don't remember the exact number). So you know last year's score. You take an average of the other 3 years after you back out last year's score, and you extrapolate again. This will tell you how they arrived at this year's score.

I just did the math.

For 2011, Harvard got a 923.
For 2012, Harvard got a 919.

They have 2 more years to get their scores up.

They need to average a 939 over the next two years in order to get to a 930 4-year average.

Kentucky is doing great though.

This is the second year in a row that Harvard has failed to meet the threshold.

 

[rex33]

If you click the links it tells you exactly what the score was. Syracuse had back to back 1000 before scoring an 878 in 2011-12. Multi-year came in at 933. Talk about gaming the system.

 

[upstater]

Football scores, not basketball.

???
Not sure what you mean

 

[caw]

???
Not sure what you mean

He's saying the football scores were coming in perfect all over.

 

[BigErnMcCracken]

I'd like to know Harvard's score. They missed the threshold last year.

... the Ivies are the only ones that miss.

Where do you get this from? You say it all the time and I'd like to see a link. I see that Harvard basketball scored, at its lowest, a 956 in 2011-12, but as far as I know that doesn't miss any threshold. Also, the Ivy league has by far the most teams honored by the NCAA for their scores, and for nearly a decade has had the top two schools in the country in terms of APR, this year Dartmouth and Brown, with Yale, Harvard and Penn in the top 10.

I don't follow this stuff all that closely, but your posts about Harvard's APR score are always clearly intended to minimize the value of the APR, and I just wonder if they're actually grounded in fact.

 

[huskiesnyc]

I was expecting a score much higher than 947. Where did we lose points?

 

[caw]

You can extrapolate it pretty easily. The only way to drop as far as Harvard did last year is to score between 915-925 (I don't remember the exact number). So you know last year's score. You take an average of the other 3 years after you back out last year's score, and you extrapolate again. This will tell you how they arrived at this year's score.

I just did the math.

For 2011, Harvard got a 923.
For 2012, Harvard got a 919.

They have 2 more years to get their scores up.

They need to average a 939 over the next two years in order to get to a 930 4-year average.

Kentucky is doing great though.

This is the second year in a row that Harvard has failed to meet the threshold.

Pretty sure they have one year. For the 2014-2015 season (or the scores out next summer) will require a 930 four year, or 940 two year.

Harvard would be working with:
2010: 1000
2011: 914
2012: 925
2013: ???

The reports from 2009 list single year scores in the second column of the PDF. They would need a horrendous score in 2013 not to be eligible, but would be in danger once that 1000 is dropped if the next two years are around the past two years.

http://web1.ncaa.org/maps/aprRelease.jsp

 

[upstater]

Where do you get this from? You say it all the time and I'd like to see a link. I see that Harvard basketball scored, at its lowest, a 956 in 2011-12, but as far as I know that doesn't miss any threshold. Also, the Ivy league has by far the most teams honored by the NCAA for their scores, and for nearly a decade has had the top two schools in the country in terms of APR, this year Dartmouth and Brown, with Yale, Harvard and Penn in the top 10.

I don't follow this stuff all that closely, but your posts about Harvard's APR score are always clearly intended to minimize the value of the APR, and I just wonder if they're actually grounded in fact.

The 4 years averages are 994, 991, 991, 974, 956.

You can extrapolate from there the newest year's score by calculating how low a single year score would have to be for the score to drop from an average of 991 to 974. The 3 scores in the 991-994 band allow you to do this in the 4th year because the average is so tight.

Whatever new score was added, and whatever new score rolled off, a drop to 974 was recorded. With that information, you can figure out the band for the low score in 2011. Same with 2012.

 

[upstater]

I was expecting a score much higher than 947. Where did we lose points?

It's the 4 year average. Not this year's score.

 

[caw]

Where do you get this from? You say it all the time and I'd like to see a link. I see that Harvard basketball scored, at its lowest, a 956 in 2011-12, but as far as I know that doesn't miss any threshold. Also, the Ivy league has by far the most teams honored by the NCAA for their scores, and for nearly a decade has had the top two schools in the country in terms of APR, this year Dartmouth and Brown, with Yale, Harvard and Penn in the top 10.

I don't follow this stuff all that closely, but your posts about Harvard's APR score are always clearly intended to minimize the value of the APR, and I just wonder if they're actually grounded in fact.

956 is the multi-year rate. They are fine but trending into dangerous territory.

 

[upstater]

He's saying the football scores were coming in perfect all over.

Ahh. Got it.

 

[caw]

It's the 4 year average. Not this year's score.

947 was this years score, the four year rate was 897. UConn is eligible based on the two year score combining 947 and 974 the past two years. This fulfills the two year minimum of 930, so UConn did lose points somewhere. Not sure where. Could have been Roscoe, Oriakhi, Lamb or Bradley (did I miss anyone?)

 

[huskiesnyc]

It's the 4 year average. Not this year's score.

I'm pretty sure it said the team scored 947 for the 11-12 season. I was under the impression we were expecting in the 980 range

 

[Kitaman]

Ollie receives nothing but good news, good things, good karma and most importantly good results! Even Wolf or Tyler can't stop him.

 

[specialisthusky]

I'm actually concerned that Emmert is going to say schools that fail to meet the 4 year rolling average cannot use the 2 year average if they have been banned from postseason play in the past. I mean crazier things have happened where the President of the NCAA creates a metric that applies retroactively and cannot be improved upon due to the data being collected expiring years prior to the rule being created.

 

[upstater]

I'm pretty sure it said the team scored 947 for the 11-12 season. I was under the impression we were expecting in the 980 range

On the link at the NCAA site, 947 is the number given for the 4 year average.

 

[huskiesnyc]

On the link at the NCAA site, 947 is the number given for the 4 year average.

The Huskies APR for the 2011-12 school year is 947 out of 1000, giving it a two-year score of 962.5, which meets the NCAA's standard.
Under rules implemented in 2011, the NCAA requires a team to have a 900 average over four years or a 930 over two years to qualify for its postseason.
The team's four-year APR of 897 is still lower than the NCAA goal.
The team scored a 978 out of 1000 in 2010-11, the season it won its third NCAA Championship, after two years of scores in the low 800s.

 

[specialisthusky]

On the link at the NCAA site, 947 is the number given for the 4 year average.

The beat writers have us at 967 two year average with score of 947 this year 978 for 10-11 826 for 09-10 and 844 08-09. The problem is like everything the NCAA does no one understands.

 

[upstater]

Yes, I clicked the link before and looked at UConn. I don't know what the hell I saw. I just went back. You're right. Wow, weird.

EDIT: was looking at U. Buffalo after I checked UConn.