UCONN Football subject of article this morning in NY Post sports section | Page 2 | The Boneyard

UCONN Football subject of article this morning in NY Post sports section

Status
Not open for further replies.
If that's the case, you can only count last year's true freshmen plus about 3 guys from the previous class as P recruits. Yeah, I pretty much think that is the case. To criticize the fact that a bunch of freshmen didn't make a significant impact is unfair, regardless of how one feels about P. You're misunderstanding me. I'm not criticizing the fact that a bunch of true freshmen didn't make an impact. It's a response to the crowd who states that our recruiting has undeniably improved under P and if you don't believe that you are an idiot hater.
 
I love the article. Obviously anything that puts us in a positive light is great, but the fact that our name is getting pushed in the Big Apple is the goal in my mind. Not just from a recruiting standpoint, not just from an audience standpoint, but also from a conference standpoint. A large and positive image in NYC equals a large and positive image nationally...
 
Funny - because August 29th is all I can focus on, and we're 0-0 in 2013. But that's just how I'm wired. I"ve analyzed and thought about where we were at, what was good, and what wasn't, and choose to focus on what we're doing now, and what's going on is that we've got a roster that has been assembled over two years, in their summer offseason, preparing for a very, very, very competitive schedule, while we're in the middle of recruiting season and football camp season for a very small true freshmen, fall-incoming recruiting class. We've hooked a QB for the 2014 class, and we've got a lineup of players that are stacked up to come in both in fall, and then again in the spring to restock for spring practice, after the graduating seniors are done (which is something that in the past - well go back and check and see what kinds of players we had filling out spring practices in the past)

That's reality of where we are at right now. Facts.

My opinion is that the roster from top down and sideways is bigger, faster, and stronger than ever before. It's debateable, which is why it's an opinion, and not a fact.

My opinion is that a winning season, competiting for an AAC conference title, and a spot in the post season is the goal for the season, and not only is it the goal, as it should be every season, it's more than realistic that we get there, it's expected to be reached.

Back to reality and facts though, the fact is that if we are as inconsistent on the field on game day as we were in the past 2 seasons, we will not reach those goals.

Last fact - becoming consistent on the game fields, is about being consistent in everything you do on the practice fields.

Last opinion - 2013 is the first year, in several years - going back to about 2009 or so, where the scout team, freshmen, redshirts and practice players are the kind of quality that our starters will see regularly on game day. And having that in practice every day, is a very important thing to developing the consistency you need to compete and win regularly.

Have a nice day all. Going sailing.
 
1) wholley was responsible for over 10 kids last year in the class. the guy is improving every day on the trail and his focus is nyc and ct. he was the man for 2 players that flipped to us even tho the sites showed a certain old mans name as the primary recruiter. wholley puts in all the hard work. he is one of very few on that campus i will defend every second.
2) #FCUSE
3) our recruiting has gotten better. not a crazy amount better but a small #uptick under P. i want him gone you all know that but i have to be honest also. i think its a combo of his connections and uconn being a older brand to kids now. its not the stars. its where the kids are coming from town/hs wise. its also other offers. a lot more kids we are landing have another offer or 2. what that means is another bcs school or fcs saw talent also. RE used to land kids with no offers, some mac offers, a select few with bcs offers and 1 major kid with a ton of bcs offers. then some one would say well the class overall had 23 bcs offers. yea but 15 of them were for 1 kid....what P is landing is more of bottom kids having fcs/mac type offers and a lot of kids having scatters bcs offers and no real 1 stud with 10+. the class may have the same 23 bcs offers as a RE class but the spread is much better so we see more depth is quality athletes. P is also doing a good job size wise. He has clearly picked it up in CT. i mean this is now the 3rd year in a row that a CT qb with other offers picked uconn. i would say marchi is the best but there seems to be some stiff competition from linta and barmore and cioffi look to be below bcs quality d1 kids as of now. that can not be ignored. maybe its time i do a full out recruiting post to show you guys. P has us slowly climbing up recruiting wise.

my fear is that this winter we hit a road block because of the 5-7 back to back and the small class we need. i don't like the strategy a whole lot so far but hey....when the 24th hits lets see how many slots of 15 we have filled. it scares me this year that we have smalls slots while both ct, nyc and ma are each going to put 10+ out bcs wise. thats a lot of kids then uconn will not be in on. i don't want to lose momentum.

my god we need a ace recruiter and a play caller. chesus. we so close but so far under p it just makes me more crazy by the minute. i want to score 50 every game. i want to land the best kids in the region. i want d tackles to be doing dances over qbs after sacking them. i want the ncaa to have to warn up weekly about our behavior on the fields. i want teams to sit on there bench toe tapping scared watching us do highlight dunks in warmups and running the ball down there throats during games. i want flashy, crazy cool uniforms and i want them to be drenched in the smell of rabbit and squirrel blood. i want commercials. many of them. billboards. car stickers. i want big boy stuff.

but none of this will happen at uconn because we have a couple of idiots in power....

At least those idiots will be at the game.
 
At least those idiots will be at the game.


thats nice. last i heard the reason the b10 didn't like us was because our tv ratings weren't high enough so ill be watching helping that stat. least this idiot is helping a stat that is needed. see 2 can play that game.
 
.-.
No, he really has not.

P has recruited more QB talent in the last 24 months than Edsall did in his last 9 years. And yes we are winning more battles for kids with multiple offers and for the first time ever the roster is completely stocked, we're even over the limit, Edsall always had extra scholarships to hand out to walkons, those days are long gone, but whatever, in your world everything I just wrote is wrong.
 
The only thing the P people have to hang their hat on is he's recruiting better, which there is zero tangible, concrete evidence of. He's consistently failed the basic game day coaching, time-management test and allowing GDL free reign with the offense is almost fireable in itself.

All that said, I'm willing to call a cease fire until I see how much freedom TJ is actually given play-calling and time-out calling wise. To be honest, I want to see an uptempo offense from the first snap against Towson (none of this 'we don't want to show all our cards' nonsense). IMO the tone will be set in the first half that night, regardless of the quality of the opposition. Any 'turtling' that night will be a huge red flag.

The awkwardness of this coaching arrangement next year concerns me. If PP is the 'great guy' most think he is apart from his ability to coach, he'll let TJ do his thing. Just as long as GDL isn't anywhere near a headset.
 
One of my friends went to Wholley's wedding and his wife's bachelorette. No doubt the guy can recruit.
 
  • Like
Reactions: pj
thats nice. last i heard the reason the b10 didn't like us was because our tv ratings weren't high enough so ill be watching helping that stat. least this idiot is helping a stat that is needed. see 2 can play that game.

How about leave your TV on and go to the game anyway. Win-win.
 
3p55jp.jpg
 
.-.
How about leave your TV on and go to the game anyway. Win-win.

If you've just left your TV on you've done nothing but waste electricity. If you aren't a Neilsen household you aren't impacting ratings.
 
If you've just left your TV on you've done nothing but waste electricity. If you aren't a Neilsen household you aren't impacting ratings.

I remember Nielsen tried to recruit in the mid 90's. Sent a new, crisp one dollar bill in the mail. I never followed through. My nephew works for Nielsen now out of shelton. Entry level stuff but fascinating non the less.
 
I remember Nielsen tried to recruit in the mid 90's. Sent a new, crisp one dollar bill in the mail. I never followed through. My nephew works for Nielsen now out of shelton. Entry level stuff but fascinating non the less.

They still send those dollars from what I understand. I knew a family that was a Neilsen household and I swear they claimed they paid their cable bill.
 
If you've just left your TV on you've done nothing but waste electricity. If you aren't a Neilsen household you aren't impacting ratings.

This place is a clear waste of electricity. But that doesn't stop any of us. :)
 
The P can do nothing right crowd won't like this because it doesn't fit squarely into their agenda box.

P has significantly improved recruiting, he needs to produce on the field this year or he is gone, but he has already proven himself as a recruiter.

Really? Which of his recruits are performing on the field?
 
No, he really has not. Are our classes ranked significantly higher by the services? Are we landing more kids with multiple BCS offers? Other than Whitmer, has any P recruit really made a significant impact on the field of play?


Actually, I believe last year's class did feature significantly more kids who had good BCS offers, though I admit I'm not a recruiting maven. But that was the impression I got.
 
.-.
I'm not saying you are wrong, but that's the line of BS that we've been fed. The 2011 class redshirted their first year and were back-ups last year. They haven't, as a class, made a meaningful contribution.

I'm not a PP guy, but in fairness, 2011 was not really his class; with the possible exception of late LB signees from Georgia. The classes on which PP should be evaluated are 2012 (sophs/RS frosh) and this year's incoming kids. There are enough PP negatives without hammering him on stuff that hasn't happen yet.
 
I'm not a PP guy, but in fairness, 2011 was not really his class; with the possible exception of late LB signees from Georgia. The classes on which PP should be evaluated are 2012 (sophs/RS frosh) and this year's incoming kids. There are enough PP negatives without hammering him on stuff that hasn't happen yet.

Again, that's the line we as fans are being fed and I agree that we cannot evaluate Coach Pasqualoni either negatively or positively as a recruiter until his guys contribute to the product on the field. Some people go by Rivals, or Scouts.com star ratings. I don't. You cannot tell me that those guys have tape on every 17 year old in the nation. There are surely short cuts being taken (i.e. sources in the 'Bama SDI department leaking where Saban is heading this weekend). 'Bama interest is automatically good for 3 stars and will go up from there.

I make my judgment of a recruiting class from my seat on the 30 yard line or from my couch (away games) 2-3 years later. Recruiting-wise, Coach Pasqualoni gets an Incomplete. As a coach he gets a D+. A college coach who is actually in his element employs a system flexible enough to take advantage of his current players' talents. I think Coach Pasqualoni spent too much time in the NFL around ready made All-Pro tight ends who he is able to coach for more than 4 years. In my amateurish opinion, college is more of a one night stand than it is a long term relationship.
 
It didn't take Md long to realize what they had in RE and it wasn't good!Md 's players were along with there fan's just short of mutinous and droves of players were fleeing including their all ACC QB Danny O'Brien and starting LT Dill who transferred to RU and is now in Jacksonville with the Jaguars!! They had (the AD) to take the extraordinary measure of rehiring someone who was on their blacklist Mike Locksley failed HC at NM but super recruiter in the Balt/DC area to stem the flow and bring in recruits that RE couldn't! Buyers remorse? Too say the least!Maybe we were lucky to be rid of him but that was the time to send a bolt of electricity into the program's vein's with a high energy promising young hire...I for one wondered who it would be knowing how shrewd the UConn brass usually is in these situations as the MBB and WBB hires attest too! Well when they announced your next hire I was dumbfounded!Now I won't say he wasn't safe and solid..even a great character guy and better recruiter (earlier in his career)!! But young and exciting?I really and who don't like regular guy PP? And now with the musical chair's of CR we find ourselves in this delicate situatution from which we must untangle ourselves!It's gonna take finesse (or winning) to work our way through this! Some will see the truth in this and many will reject it out of blindness! It is what it is! Simply put we need energy!
 
I'm not saying you are wrong, but that's the line of BS that we've been fed. The 2011 class redshirted their first year and were back-ups last year. They haven't, as a class, made a meaningful contribution.

@Husky,if the incoming recruits are good enough they can save the RS for later in their career for injuries or other reasons!That's why I say why expect too much out of some one who wasn't good enough to force their way in as a true Frosh!Usually OL and DL need the RS for weight and strength gain's but WR/DB and RB rely more on plain athleticism!
 
.-.
The P can do nothing right crowd won't like this because it doesn't fit squarely into their agenda box.

P has significantly improved recruiting, he needs to produce on the field this year or he is gone, but he has already proven himself as a recruiter.


Huh? How has he significantly improved recruiting? The UCONN players from this past year were Edsall recruits. Yawin Smallwood, All American candidate, was an Edsall recruit.

I am not saying Coach P's recruiting is poor, or that his recruits won't end up performing better than FHCRE, but I don't think it is accurate to say he has significantly improved recruiting at this point.
 
@Husky,if the incoming recruits are good enough they can save the RS for later in their career for injuries or other reasons!That's why I say why expect too much out of some one who wasn't good enough to force their way in as a true Frosh!Usually OL and DL need the RS for weight and strength gain's but WR/DB and RB rely more on plain athleticism!
Where was UConn Deficient? Offensive line. While Coach Pasqualoni tries to recruit bigger, many in the 2011, 2012 class did indeed redshirt or did not get onto the field at their normal offensive/defensive position (I.e. Joe Williams and Bobby Puyol. Puyol burned his redshirt vs. Cinci, but is expected to RS this year.).
 
Where was UConn Deficient? Offensive line. While Coach Pasqualoni tries to recruit bigger, many in the 2011, 2012 class did indeed redshirt or did not get onto the field at their normal offensive/defensive position (I.e. Joe Williams and Bobby Puyol. Puyol burned his redshirt vs. Cinci, but is expected to RS this year.).

I'll keep a sharp eye on the OL this season because I didn't see any deficiency on defense (outside speed+deep pass) because all strong team's usually start on the lines!
 
Huh? How has he significantly improved recruiting? The UCONN players from this past year were Edsall recruits. Yawin Smallwood, All American candidate, was an Edsall recruit.

I am not saying Coach P's recruiting is poor, or that his recruits won't end up performing better than FHCRE, but I don't think it is accurate to say he has significantly improved recruiting at this point.


We don't have enough information at this point, but we did win some recruiting battles in the last year against programs I don't recall ever really competing with before, for what it's worth (which, I admit, is not much until the kids get on the field).
 
Star-wise, hype-wise, I'd say recruiting is slightly better but that could be an echo from the 10-11 season. We haven't seen the echo from the AAC yet.

(Outside of QB, I give P that one) In the end, it isn't so much better that it matters one bit. Did we not spend thousands of posts making the case against the star system that Edsall found tough hardworking guys that flew under the radar and coached them up to far better results on the field that some of the star darlings? Wins matter, right now P doesn't have enough of them. Win 8 this year and that brings his average all the way up to 6.




Sent from my MB860 using Tapatalk 2
 
.-.
Status
Not open for further replies.

Forum statistics

Threads
168,351
Messages
4,566,622
Members
10,469
Latest member
xxBlueChips


Top Bottom