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UConn football coach Jim Mora on what it will take for his vision of the program to become a reality…

on one hand yes but it’s not UConns fault he was desperate for this job and didn’t research it before accepting it. Hell he didn’t use an agent. Still he is right
jim mora's dad was an acclaimed NFL head coach.
jim mora was an acclaimed NFL head coach.
jim mora was the head coach at UCLA, who mostly stinks since he was fired on his birthday.


jim mora was not desperate for this job, or any job.
jim mora decided to go back to work in a fun job.
 
It’s fine that you find it concerning that, to compete at a high level in college football, you need to constantly be spending money to reach higher, but it can’t be surprising, can it? Do you think the top schools throw money around like it’s confetti just for the fun of it?

Or is the concerning part that if Mora doesn’t think we’re committed enough to winning, he won’;t be here long? Because we don’t want a coach who won’t want to keep growing and winning, but is satisfied with just achieving some level of mediocrity,
Your first point is essentially a straw man. OP only said "concerning," and you created a door to make your own, unrelated point that (s)he really shouldn't be surprised.

Even your second question is a loaded question. It implies that if we don't meet whatever his desires are, we are not committed to winning within the means that we have available -- that we are satisfied being mediocre. I'm not sure that jump in logic is really fair, based on financial points I made elsewhere. Perhaps, thinking that the program needs to fund itself responsibly until it has a Power 5 TV contact, THEN throw around the confetti money, isn't settling for mediocrity.
 
Seriously think of how you would justify this monumental budget increase to the administration. Your football team has been the worst in all of D1 for the last 7-8 years, hemorrhaging money, some even calling for the program to shut down, and after one mediocre season you’re asking for a massive re investment? You’re not gonna find a non football fan who agrees this is a good idea, unless it comes with the promise of a P5 invite down the road.
Well given that the P5 is a football designation, it’s certainly not happening without a quality football program, right?
 
This. The athletic department, including football, is hemorrhaging money.

Major expenses in the past couple years and/ or future liabilities:

AAC withdrawal - 17,000,000
Big East entry - 3,500,000
Ollie lawsuit AND buyout - 14,900,000
Big East withdrawal fee (currently) - 30,000,000

I graduated about 10 yrs ago and the cost for in-state attendance has doubled since then. Something will need to give, and as much as I enjoy going to the rent, I think the university needs to be careful before throwing lots more money at the football program. More than a little disappointed to hear this cropping up before season's end from someone who approached the school for the job. (Regardless of the context in which it was asked.)
Why are you bringing up a $30 million withdrawal fee? We don’t have to spend that until we leave, and even then, only if we leave within six years of joining the big east. If we leave, will be able to make up that $30 million in a single year and still have roughly the same revenue as our current biggest deal. if we leave seven years after we join the biggies the withdrawal fee is only $15 million. And it drops to 10 million shortly there after.
 
For what it’s worth I love how everyone assumes that football success brings only expense and not revenues. A successful football team would fill the rent generating considerable revenue six days a year.
 
The UConn administration has just been given their 2 year warning. UConn has always been trying to do things on the cheap. Letting Hathaway be our AD. Pasqualoni. Edsall 2.0. Glad JM is putting this out there. The long term look is do we get into a football conference and with the associated $ and help stabilize our Athletic budget. I hope Hurley can help buy winning a few NCAA games this year. Big East and independent is terminal.
 
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Think about this, PP made more than Mora as head coach 11 years ago. Diaco was scheduled to make $2.1 million in 2020 vs Mora's $1.5 million.

For perspective, the average estimated HC salaries of some conferences:

ACC: $4.7 million ($4.3 million ex Dabo)
AAC: $3.0 million
MWC: $1.7 million
CUSA: $1.3 million
MAC: $1.0 million

So, what is the goal for UConn football? To ultimately get into the ACC? To join the MAC? The goal will dictate what UConn should be spending on coaches.

How do you finance the spending? It's going to have to be creative. Private donors. Increased revenues from attendance. New TV contract....
 
Why are you bringing up a $30 million withdrawal fee? We don’t have to spend that until we leave, and even then, only if we leave within six years of joining the big east. If we leave, will be able to make up that $30 million in a single year and still have roughly the same revenue as our current biggest deal. if we leave seven years after we join the biggies the withdrawal fee is only $15 million. And it drops to 10 million shortly there after.
I don't see where more money comes from without joining a conference that can pay it. To join a conference that pays more, we need to leave the Big East. If Mora is looking for investment now, then we need money now, and more than a Big East TV contract can pay.

I'm not trying to be argumentative, but just as you want to support him, which I can respect, I'll ask sincerely where that money will come from. The cost of attendance for the university has doubled in ten years. Non-football fans already think the athletic budget is out of control.

Also, most of the teams I have read about joining the big conferences do so with a progressively bigger over time revenue sharing. They don't get an equal chunk of the pie immediately. Look up Rutgers, for example. They are STILL not making B1G money and they have been in the conference for years. I appreciate your passion, and I'm all for spending if some T Boon Pickens oil money comes into the budget like with Oklahoma St., but it'll be a hard sell to the 3 million CT residents that aren't packing the rent ever weekend in the fall.
 
I'd sure like to get a peak at Georgia's recruiting ledger. I mean, $2.6 million. Wow.
 
This is my interpretation of what he just said:

I didn’t come here to go .500. You can’t live a champagne life on a beer budget. If you aren’t going to remove the barriers I am facing with the salaries of my coaches, the recruiting budget, the delayed maintenance at the Rent, the stupid roster limit etc.

Then this is a waste of my time.

Your move.

That would be one possibility. The other is his agent is already getting calls and he's making excuses for bailing out after one year. Time will tell.
 
jim mora's dad was an acclaimed NFL head coach.
jim mora was an acclaimed NFL head coach.
jim mora was the head coach at UCLA, who mostly stinks since he was fired on his birthday.


jim mora was not desperate for this job, or any job.
jim mora decided to go back to work in a fun job.

You couldn’t be more off mark.

The man is a hard charger whose idea of fun is excellence. He’s just asking for support that will allow him to achieve it.
 
That would be one possibility. The other is his agent is already getting calls and he's making excuses for bailing out after one year. Time will tell.

I was thinking the same thing.
 
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Rowing and tennis don't pay the bills. Basketball and football do. The line is the NCAA minimum. We are not a P5 or Ivy League school. We can't afford to have 21 sports and compete in all of the ones that matter. There wouldn't need to be a lot of cuts but there would need to be a few.

Pay what bills? We spend more on athletics than the revenue it generates. Putting track and tennis dollars into football and hoops doesn't change that.
 
I’m assuming this is accurate… I’ve seen the attendance numbers but didn’t go back to check other incentives. I’m guessing the comment/response today isn’t about Mora $$ but moreso program $ and taking care of his staff $ moving forward.

 
I don't see where more money comes from without joining a conference that can pay it. To join a conference that pays more, we need to leave the Big East. If Mora is looking for investment now, then we need money now, and more than a Big East TV contract can pay.

I'm not trying to be argumentative, but just as you want to support him, which I can respect, I'll ask sincerely where that money will come from. The cost of attendance for the university has doubled in ten years. Non-football fans already think the athletic budget is out of control.

Also, most of the teams I have read about joining the big conferences do so with a progressively bigger over time revenue sharing. They don't get an equal chunk of the pie immediately. Look up Rutgers, for example. They are STILL not making B1G money and they have been in the conference for years. I appreciate your passion, and I'm all for spending if some T Boon Pickens oil money comes into the budget like with Oklahoma St., but it'll be a hard sell to the 3 million CT residents that aren't packing the rent ever weekend in the fall.
So how much money do you believe should be spent on athletics given that you said we’re already spending too much? What do you feel would be the right number?
 
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Assuming this is from Mora’s Weekly Sunday Media availability:

Not sure @ this point what the actual question was to elicit the response but he’s clearly laying the financial groundwork/expectations…

(It’s a quick 1:46 listen)


What was the question in reference too?

We have to have the context. I haven’t seen it yet.
 
There’s two games left. He wants to pay his assistants more and have more roster spots. No surprise. We knew this all along, it’s just nearing time to deal with it.
This is actually something he should get. Is that what he was asking? Ir was bigger recruiting budget, more Bells and whistles, more big time marketing.

Tbh. None of the previous coaches wanted to do any of the marketing stuff.

Bob wanted to do it, but only if he could design and run the campaign.
 
It's really time to get to the bare minimum of sports so that we can devote resources to the sports that matter. Obviously, we need to keep Title IX considerations, but moves need to be made.
We're pretty much there. Minimum is 6 for men. We're at 7 for men and golf is (almost?) entirely donor-funded at this point. And when we tried to cut a women's sport we got sued for Title IX. Think the sports are stuck where they are
 
… and it wouldn’t surprise me @ all if this commentary/timing has already been cleared through AD Dave.
I hope you're right because if it wasn't said with Benedict's agreement, I would be disappointed. Let's not forget that Mora was the one who contacted Benedict about the job, Benedict spent days with him discussing the job, and Mora knew what he was getting into when he took the job.

As others have said, I would like to hear the whole interview and get the context of why he started talking about this.
 
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So how much money do you believe should be spent on athletics given that you said we’re already spending too much? What do you feel would be the right number?
I didn't say we spend too much. That would be an opinion. I said we spend significantly more than we take in. I don't know the exact deficit, but it has been quoted in the thread, it is astronomical, it is not sustainable, and it needs to be made up from... somewhere.

I don't get paid 6 figures to determine what we should spend. But I do know that I wouldn't spend twice my income for a year, over and over without some promise of future reward or compensation to make my finances whole.

How much further would you be willing to put the budget in the red, and when and with what funds would you pay it down with?

If Benedict knows something I don't and the ACC is going to come calling soon, I'd absolutely be fine watching us put a bit more out. But if that was the case, Mora probably wouldn't be sending this message in such a manner.
 
I didn't say we spend too much. That would be an opinion. I said we spend significantly more than we take in. I don't know the exact deficit, but it has been quoted in the thread, it is astronomical, it is not sustainable, and it needs to be made up from... somewhere.

I don't get paid 6 figures to determine what we should spend. But I do know that I wouldn't spend twice my income for a year, over and over without some promise of future reward or compensation to make my finances whole.

How much further would you be willing to put the budget in the red, and when and with what funds would you pay it down with?

If Benedict knows something I don't and the ACC is going to come calling soon, I'd absolutely be fine watching us put a bit more out. But if that was the case, Mora probably wouldn't be sending this message in such a manner.
Who do you want the promise from? What we do know is the schools that got the call up to a P5 we're spending more than us on football.
 
I didn't say we spend too much. That would be an opinion. I said we spend significantly more than we take in. I don't know the exact deficit, but it has been quoted in the thread, it is astronomical, it is not sustainable, and it needs to be made up from... somewhere.

I don't get paid 6 figures to determine what we should spend. But I do know that I wouldn't spend twice my income for a year, over and over without some promise of future reward or compensation to make my finances whole.

How much further would you be willing to put the budget in the red, and when and with what funds would you pay it down with?

If Benedict knows something I don't and the ACC is going to come calling soon, I'd absolutely be fine watching us put a bit more out. But if that was the case, Mora probably wouldn't be sending this message in such a manner.
'Mora probably wouldn't be sending this message in such a manner.'

jim mora, he of prolly grossing 20-30 millions so far, sent this message early and often at the only similar job he held. Ucla.
'Now that he’s gone, Mora’s replacement will benefit from something Mora’s presence helped make possible, and remember that if the new guy ever complains about having to start with so little.

During his tenure, Mora also pushed for and received additional money to pay assistant coaches, no small development at a time when being the defensive coordinator at Louisville can be a $1.3 million position.'

Miller: Jim Mora’s gone from UCLA but his legacy shouldn’t be forgotten
 
I didn't say we spend too much. That would be an opinion. I said we spend significantly more than we take in. I don't know the exact deficit, but it has been quoted in the thread, it is astronomical, it is not sustainable, and it needs to be made up from... somewhere.

I don't get paid 6 figures to determine what we should spend. But I do know that I wouldn't spend twice my income for a year, over and over without some promise of future reward or compensation to make my finances whole.

How much further would you be willing to put the budget in the red, and when and with what funds would you pay it down with?

If Benedict knows something I don't and the ACC is going to come calling soon, I'd absolutely be fine watching us put a bit more out. But if that was the case, Mora probably wouldn't be sending this message in such a manner.
Those are all good points and I think his vision, our vision, is that UCONN Football plays in a power conference like the ACC. That takes winning and it takes money. Maybe he is just reminding people that our .500 record is fine and all but the Husky Revolution takes prolonged and significant investment. We are either 100% committed to it or we aren't. At this point it really is a gamble because no matter how much we spend, we don't know when or if that invitation will be coming. It certainly won't be coming if don't commit to it.

I don't understand why Will Aldam posted the abbreviated version of the interview and hasn't posted the question. We are all in the dark here.
 
Who do you want the promise from? What we do know is the schools that got the call up to a P5 we're spending more than us on football.
UConn is a football independent. And it earns basketball money. All of the schools you're likely thinking of -- any of the old Big East, Cincy from the AAC, TCU, etc etc etc -- are and were affiliated with conferences when they got invited and make way more than we do. Of course they spend more than we do. We would have made more money from the Big East TV deal that was turned down (and killed the conference) ages ago than we make now. That's a crazy disparity in finances.

It sucks being the debbie downer in the room, and no one will like me for saying it, but I legitimately don't see where the money comes from and when it gets paid down. Donors will make up some of it, sure, but I don't think it's a coincidence that student fees and overall cost of attendance have increased exponentially at the same time we've been running a colossal athletic deficit.
 
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