The fall teams are also part of a conference and they (Big East) are actively discussing the likelihood of a season/timing/schedules.
Someone on Twitter, a nobody, said it was a loss for AD David Benedict and HCRE. I countered and said it was a win in that he treated the players like people and not commodities. He replied that I was an Idiot. Another moron that doesn't get the concern for the players or even the fact that they had input. Also typical of people today in that a point of disagreement can't be discussed as adults and that I'm just stupid and wrong because I don't agree. God do I hate a lot of people these days.
If you are TRULY talking about protecting the kids then it shouldn't matter what the league says. Given the football decision and the statements made for the reasons why (did not have to do with the schedule falling apart) then the fall sports better not play in any capacity save for scrimmages with their own teams. Otherwise it's very hypocritical and those saying we cancelled football because we knew as an indy we wouldnt have games will have a point. Since we are proud to be the first school in the country to cancel football why not be proud to be the first school in the country to cancel fall sports in order to protect the student athletes?
OK I can get on board with that but if it's "risk differential" then how many kids can get it where it will be OK? Just because the risk might be lower doesn't mean it's 0%. What is considered a success or "worth the risk"? 1, 3, 5, 10, 15, etc? Tell us the number or even a range.
<--Well this is significant for roster building. But Randy and Co are going to have to cool it on new offers until they get confirmation.
a low blow
I know they are standard, but this isn't skiing. You pay to ski. Football players aren't being paid and they are the product. Anyone who signs a waiver to play football should be examined ed by a board of Psychiatrists.
Obviously proof will come on signing day in December/February but early returns from football crazy Texas seem to be trending positively...
I don’t want to derail this thread, but the idea that a waiver isn’t logical and normal in American life for this situation just really isn’t the case. They sell 50 million lift tickets a year for a sport that is about as dangerous as they come for the mass market. People routinely agree to waivers and for good reason for athletic activities everyday because they want the experience offered and are willing to take the risk. Football is already crazy risky. I am sure most of the kids in FBS would be quick to sign such a waiver provided the language isn’t too radical. These kids are on university health insurance and thus if they get COVid they will be covered per their insurance policy and not entitled to something more (ie it will be an ordinary injury like an ACL or broken foot etc).
Let’s revisit this after the P5 plays three games.
The worst defensive team was UMass last year. That UConn defense of 2018 gets to redshirt with this cancelled season.
We aren’t comparing mothballs to apples - people sign waivers everyday whenever there is uncontrolled and elevated risk. This is without a doubt one of those situations. The schools can’t control COVid and so there needs to be no illusions to the contrary. If I am the NCAA I am using the waiver to spell out the risks in stark terms to the kids and reminding them they don’t have to play- but if they do the system can make only reasonable to control COVid. I would also point out that the full impact of COVid over the long term is unknown. The waiver is a warning.
Good point regarding negligence- but a waiver sets the standard higher. I don’t necessarily agree with the rest of your sentiments. Although I fully agree that the NCAA and universities are totally exposed unless they roll out some clear stark guidance to the student athletes that this is volunteer activity with no obligation to participate. Sort of a “rights” notice regarding COVid this fall.