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Yawkey Way said:
BC Football IS the power in New England College Football. For the last 35 years, 98% of the time, BC has dominated College Football in New England every much as had Uconn Men's Basketball dominated New England College Basketball in the region. Yes, there were a couple of years in these 35 years where Uconn was better in football than BC.... but there were a couple of years in the last 35 years where Uconn Basketball was not the number 1 program in N.E. THAT year too.. But Uconn Basketball is still the best basketball program 98% of the time in N.E., the same way that BC football is the number best college football program in N.E. 98% of the time as well.

As such, Uconn DOES need to negotiate this in terms acceptable to BC.... as BC IS " the power " in N.E....the same way that BC needs to negotiate its football schedules with Notre Dame in a manner that recognizes that ND is " the power " and BC is not " the power " in this relationship. BC would agree to play ND anywhere, anytime, and 12 times a year in South Bend if that gets ND on the BC schedule. Uconn and Umass need BC on its football schedule, far , far more than BC needs Umass or Uconn football on its schedule. So Uconn should make the deal, no matter what it takes, imo
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35 years of futility is not an accomplishment
 
Tusky said:
http://ajerseyguy.com/?p=12760

Summary:
- BC lining up FIU and Wagner to fill out 2016.
- UMass AD interested in having both BC and UConn on the schedule annually.
- UMass AD "wheeling and dealing" to create an annual scheduling arrangement.
- UMass AD willing to swap a UConn home game for FIU in order to extend the BC series.

If you think that's disrespectful, that's your opinion. But that's the story as Blauds presented it.
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Of course Umass is behind all of this. After this season they are an independent and their scheduling is very difficult so they will do whatever they can to limit travel and play games against programs their fans have heard of.
 
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SAMCRO said:
Love this. BC can't sell out FSU, and their fan in NJ, who I'm wagering doesn't go to any home games, wants a rotation of Fordham/HC/Nova.
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Uconn has sold out 1 game since 2011 (UM where 40% of crowd was maize/blue), maybe pump the brakes on the attendance thing.
 
Yawkey Way said:
BC has dominated College Football in New England every much as had Uconn Men's Basketball dominated New England College Basketball in the region. Yes, there were a couple of years in these 35 years where Uconn was better in football than BC.... but there were a couple of years in the last 35 years where Uconn Basketball was not the number 1 program in N.E. THAT year too.. But Uconn Basketball is still the best basketball program 98% of the time in N.E., the same way that BC football is the number best college football program in N.E. 98% of the time as well.

As such, Uconn DOES need to negotiate this in terms acceptable to BC....
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So, in light of UConn's basketball dominance, BC needs to negotiate a 2 games at Gampel for 1 game at Conte basketball deal?
 
Chief00 said:
Chief is me.
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How's the bitches? I mean, Andre??

UMass has complete schedules for 2016 and 2017 and have games scheduled beyond. Methinks they're going to stay at this level. AAC schools are lending UMass a helping hand. UMass AND UConn in the Big Ten would be kind of insane. Western Mass would become relevant to the dismay of eastern Mass and the Knowledge Corridor reaches it's peak. Certainly would take years to get there.
 
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pj said:
So, in light of UConn's basketball dominance, BC needs to negotiate a 2 games at Gampel for 1 game at Conte basketball deal?
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Sure, why not. Uconn has the power in N.E. to call the shots in Basketball scheduling between the 2 schools, and BC has the power in N.E. to call the shots in Football scheduling between the 2 schools. And as mentioned above, its always a given that all schools operate on the basis that uneven negotiations can sometimes work for both schools long range future self interests.... and on the other hand, sometimes one school opts not to participate in what it perceives to not be agreeable terms to its own future self interests, and decides not to agree to scheduling terms.
 
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SAMCRO said:
Love this. BC can't sell out FSU, and their fan in NJ, who I'm wagering doesn't go to any home games, wants a rotation of Fordham/HC/Nova.
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Not surprising however. He's from New Jersey. Those in Massachusetts would have no interest in Fordham or Nova. It would most likely be Umass, Holy Cross, Uconn, UNH ( in that order ) for BC's Massachusetts fans for local interest filler for BC's future football opponents. ( mine however would be Uconn, Holy Cross, Umass, UNH ( in that order, for local interest filler for BC's future out of conference scheduling )
 
Butch said:
How's the bitches? I mean, Andre??

UMass has complete schedules for 2016 and 2017 and have games scheduled beyond. Methinks they're going to stay at this level. AAC schools are lending UMass a helping hand. UMass AND UConn in the Big Ten would be kind of insane. Western Mass would become relevant to the dismay of eastern Mass and the Knowledge Corridor reaches it's peak. Certainly would take years to get there.
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All is well - plan to take in a couple Motown games this year
 
Yawkey Way said:
Sure, why not. Uconn has the power in N.E. to call the shots in Basketball scheduling between the 2 schools, and BC has the power in N.E. to call the shots in Football scheduling between the 2 schools. And as mentioned above, its always a given that all schools operate on the basis that uneven negotiations can sometimes work for both schools long range future self interests.... and on the other hand, sometimes one school opts not to participate in what it perceives to not be agreeable terms to its own future self interests, and decides not to agree to scheduling terms.
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You do realize we can schedule schools other than BC? Right?

How the heck is BC any better than Syracuse. At least Syracuse has a championship people can agree about.
 
Mr. Conehead said:
This was the guy's second choice, his first choice would be for BC to have a football rotation featuring Boston U and Northeastern.
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Not unless he thought (like you) that BU still has a football program, he would not be calling for future football games with BU. There would be some interest in Greater Boston to put Northeastern back on the BC football schedule however, as there is a very large base of Huskies alums that live in and around the Greater Boston region( far more than Uconn Huskies Alums for example )
 
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Yawkey Way said:
Not unless he thought (like you) that BU still has a football program, he would not be calling for future football games with BU. There would be some interest in Greater Boston to put Northeastern back on the BC football schedule however, as there is a very large base of Huskies alums that live in and around the Greater Boston region( far more than Uconn Huskies Alums for example )
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... Is Northeastern still undefeated this year?
 
Yawkey Way said:
Not unless he thought (like you) that BU still has a football program, he would not be calling for future football games with BU. There would be some interest in Greater Boston to put Northeastern back on the BC football schedule however, as there is a very large base of Huskies alums that live in and around the Greater Boston region( far more than Uconn Huskies Alums for example )
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Wow. Just in case BC's curriculum did not cover the English language, the link below maybe of use for you.

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/sarcasm

I was a student at UConn when BU announced that they were canning their football program. Their very next game was in Storrs and the BU players used black tape to cover-up any reference to BU on their uniforms. The coaches wore black. I actually felt for those guys. Oh, and about 10 years later, I got my MBA from BU and my graduation ceremony was at Nickerson Field. So, yeah, I know.

By the way, I was still living in the Boston suburbs when Northeastern announced that they were cancelling their football program also in 2009.

That said, BC should put both on their football schedule. Its an automatic pair of wins. Although, the jury is s till out if playing an imaginary pair of teams would help or hurt attendance at Alumni stadium.
 
Tusky said:
http://ajerseyguy.com/?p=12760

Summary:
- BC lining up FIU and Wagner to fill out 2016.
- UMass AD interested in having both BC and UConn on the schedule annually.
- UMass AD "wheeling and dealing" to create an annual scheduling arrangement.
- UMass AD willing to swap a UConn home game for FIU in order to extend the BC series.

If you think that's disrespectful, that's your opinion. But that's the story as Blauds presented it.
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Not disrespectful, I just wanted to see where you got that as the 10/5-ish articles did not state any of that. You completely missed that UMass would be asking for an extra home game against BC at Gillette to make up for the UConn swap.
 
huskymedic said:
Damn...

NJbcFan 5:24pm via Twitter Web Client
@BCBradBates I am sure you have heard it, but please no UConn in football. I would rather see a Catholic rotation of Holy Cross/Nova/Fordham
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Don't worry, some fans just don't understand how scheduling works. BC, especially with a Florida-trained coach like Daz, will always want cupcakes on the OOC schedule. Which means BC will always have an FCS game.

The FCS game gets us the Catholic rotation of Holy Cross (historic rivarly recently renewed for 4 games), Fordham (just recently filled the scholly quota to count towards a bowl, I expect it to be scheduled soon) and Villanova. Mix the Catholics with what we call with the "Good for New England" games against Maine, URI and UNH and the FCS schedule is filled.

But we likely need two G5 opponents per year. We wouldn't be playing UConn and UMass instead of the Catholics and small NE schools, we'd be playing them in addition. The choice is really between UConn and/or UMass versus the Central Michigan's, Kent State's, Bowling Green's, and New Mexico States' of the world. When you realize that, it's only the most anti-UConn, blind-hate BC fans that don't want to go for this.

tl;dr - this twitter fan doesn't know what he's talking about and Bates will have no trouble ignoring him.
 
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Tusky said:
Don't worry, some fans just don't understand how scheduling works. BC, especially with a Florida-trained coach like Daz, will always want cupcakes on the OOC schedule. Which means BC will always have an FCS game.

The FCS game gets us the Catholic rotation of Holy Cross (historic rivarly recently renewed for 4 games), Fordham (just recently filled the scholly quota to count towards a bowl, I expect it to be scheduled soon) and Villanova. Mix the Catholics with what we call with the "Good for New England" games against Maine, URI and UNH and the FCS schedule is filled.
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What happens to BC's schedule if the ACC is pressured to follow the B1Gs' path of no more FCS games?
 
Mr. Conehead said:
What happens to BC's schedule if the ACC is pressured to follow the B1Gs' path of no more FCS games?
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Don't think that happens as long as they stay at an 8 game schedule. The ACC teams love their FCS cupcakes and with 4 OOC you can afford one FCS. I almost think you'd see a 2 P5 requirement before the ACC bans the FCS.
 
Yawkey Way said:
No.... as a matter of fact, it appears to me that you miscontrued my remarks from above. I actually stated ( to repeat ) that it is " in Uconn's domain to reject any terms not acceptable to them ". Uconn does not have to do anything at all that is perceived by them not to be in their own future self interest. I have no idea if the rumors of negotiations are in fact taking place, nor what the terms will be. But BOTH BC and Uconn have a perfect right to walk away from any potential deal that either believes is not in their own self interests. I hope this does not occur, as I'd like to see a Uconn- BC future game(s). But I recognize both schools have to decide if the terms work for them..... of course. So I hope this clarifies my remarks that you believed that somehow the negotiations will be one sided ( no evidence of this so far ) and that I was telling Uconn they had no control to simply walk away if they felt their pride would be diminished if they took uneven negotiated terms. Uconn does not have to do ANY deal with ANY school that is not in their self interest.
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Actually, you did insinuate that the leverage resides with bc and that if uconn doesn't like the terms being dictated to them, they can always walk away.

You might be the first person I've seen that likes to hear themselves blog.
 
Yawkey Way said:
Not unless he thought (like you) that BU still has a football program, he would not be calling for future football games with BU. There would be some interest in Greater Boston to put Northeastern back on the BC football schedule however, as there is a very large base of Huskies alums that live in and around the Greater Boston region( far more than Uconn Huskies Alums for example )
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You're kidding right.
Did you really just tell us Boston has a great deal of nu alums as if you were dropping some newsflash?
 
Farrell said:
Uconn has sold out 1 game since 2011 (UM where 40% of crowd was maize/blue), maybe pump the brakes on the attendance thing.
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Which is the same # of sellouts BC has had in the same time frame (with a significantly better home schedule) when 40% of Alumni were ND fans - see how easy it is to make up %'s of visiting fans.
Seriously, BC can't sell out for Florida State, Clemson, and USC in prime time evening games. Playing UConn would put more total fans in Alumni than any of their ACC games, but BC can continue to keep their head in the sand and enjoy playing Howard and Maine in the same year.
 
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