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Not for Football, brassboy. Uconn football had to separately ( and much later after the founding of the BE ) to apply for admittance to the BE for its football program to be considered for admittance to the BE., at which point as some may recall here, BC voted " Yes " for Uconn's football team to be included in the BE Football League. ( Of course this was before Blumenthal initiated his later lawsuit against Swofford, the ACC, BC, Miami, etc for " setting out to destroy Uconn football ", and all of that sorry saga)
Be more specific next time, Yawkboy. And don't use false equivalences such as BC voting for WVU to join the league as a brand new all-sports member and BC voting for UConn, already a member of the league in all sports but one, to become a football member. The comparison is not the same.
 
Sounds like a typical sporting event at UMass.
The Umass fans that attend the BC- Umass games for the most part are very well behaved. Even the ' Neers fans in Morgantoown are not as drunk at their games than the Bulldogs and the Crimson Faced are in their annual " Event ". Again... if you or others here have been to a Harvard- Yale game, you know this to be true.
 
Not for Football, brassboy. Uconn football had to separately ( and much later after the founding of the BE ) to apply for admittance to the BE for its football program to be considered for admittance to the BE., at which point as some may recall here, BC voted " Yes " for Uconn's football team to be included in the BE Football League. ( Of course this was before Blumenthal initiated his later lawsuit against Swofford, the ACC, BC, Miami, etc for " setting out to destroy Uconn football ", and all of that sorry saga)

We should all be thankful for all the help Blumenthal was to Uconn. We still feel the effects today!
 
Be more specific next time, Yawkboy. And don't use false equivalences such as BC voting for WVU to join the league as a brand new all-sports member and BC voting for UConn, already a member of the league in all sports but one, to become a football member. The comparison is not the same.
Ok... will do. And as a helpful suggestion to you moving forward, understand that you initial criticism reply to me that Uconn football did not have to apply for a much later admittance via BE vote, ( despite Uconn already in the BE for other sports, years earlier ) was an inaccurate comment from you.... and thus prompted my follow up reply to correct that clearly incorrect info on here that you had utilized in your initial reply to me above.
 
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Ok... will do. And as a helpful suggestion to you moving forward, understand that you initial criticism reply to me that Uconn football did not have to apply for a much later admittance via BE vote, ( despite Uconn already in the BE for other sports, years earlier ) was an inaccurate comment from you.... and thus prompted my follow up reply to correct that clearly incorrect info on here that you had utilized in your initial reply to me above.
I did not imply that at all, I interpreted your comment as pertaining UConn's admittance to the Big East as a whole (based on the WVU example) in 1979, not as a football member in 2004.
 
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To keep this post on-point with the thread, most BC kids don't know which line to take from the Garden after the games they've won, so their rides are lame.

While not defending BC students, I did go to enough BC sporting events when I lived in Brookline while UConn and BC were in the same conference and understand the quandary. The B Line is the most direct T ride to BC's campus; but, its a good 50 minute crawl up Comm Ave and one has to share it with BU students for the first half. The C line takes 30 minutes to crawl up Beacon to Cleveland Circle; but, then one has to take a 15 minute hike around the Reservoir at night to get to campus. The D line, which also goes to Cleveland Circle, is only a 15 minute ride from North Station; but, if you've been drinking and are in a jovial mood, all the stuck-up Newtonites riding the D with you are going to be all over you. So, if the weather's bad or its winter, take the B line. If you are in a hurry and have not been partying, take the D. If you have been out on the town and its not bad out, take the C and if its not too late, hit Mary Anne's in Cleveland Circle to spend last call with a lot of underage BC football players.

PS - The craziest late night subway ride I have been on (several time) was in the late '90's when NYC went smoke free and Jersey still allowed smoking in the bars. I would be in the city for work a lot and had a good friend who lived in Jersey who smoked (I did not, took one for the team). Taking the PATH back from Hoboken to Herald Square in Manhattan at 2 AM after a Thirsty Thursday with all of the other young drunks from NYC was insane. Singing, booze, fights, lots of skin and exchanging of bodily fluids.
 
Sounds like a typical sporting event at UMass.

Or the old Yale v. UConn games at the Bowl. Went twice, barely remember both trips though I am pretty sure that I never saw a down played and that I was not lucky to have needed a liver transplant after.
 
I really want to see this series happen. And it should 1 for 1 on home and away.
My only worry is that the games will be scheduled at 11:11 am!
 
Not for Football, brassboy. Uconn football had to separately ( and much later after the founding of the BE ) to apply for admittance to the BE for its football program to be considered for admittance to the BE., at which point as some may recall here, BC voted " Yes " for Uconn's football team to be included in the BE Football League. ( Of course this was before Blumenthal initiated his later lawsuit against Swofford, the ACC, BC, Miami, etc for " setting out to destroy Uconn football ", and all of that sorry saga)

I believe in the mid 1990's the Big E invited both UConn and Villanova to join the football side of things. Villanova declined. UConn accepted and began its upgrade in 1999, went to full D1A status in 2002 and was scheduled to move to the Big East in 2005 or 2006; but, that date was pushed-up to 2004 when Miami and V Tech bolted. Of course, outside of football, UConn, like BC, was an inaugural member in 1979.
 
From Wiki:

"A banner on BC's campus commemorating the team uses the phrase "national champions," but Boston College was not awarded a national championship by any of the national polls at the time of the 1940 season. Although BC's claim to a title is not recognized by the NCAA or college football historians in general, one website, the College Football Data Warehouse, claims that selectors named Cliff Morgan and Ray Bryne rated BC #1 in 1940.[8] This web site states that BC's historic 1940 run resulted in a split championship with the University of Minnesota, but it's not clear whether the selectors awarded BC a title at the time of the 1940 season, or if they did so retroactively.[9] The NCAA lists only Minnesota as the national champion in 1940, and does not credit BC with any national championships in football.[10]"

Hard to argue with the opinions of two people.


While true regarding the NCAA of 1940 position on this ( not the same as NCAA of today regarding these things).... inquisitive minds on this topic ask themselves : if an undefeated team went into the Sugar Bowl today, defeated the #1 ranked team in that Sugar Bowl ( Tennessee ) would not that undefeated, untied, team win or at the very least share in that season's National Football Title ? I think most unbiased observers would conclude... " yes ". Now having said this, it is true the NCAA of 1940 does not recognize BC's claim of a share of that 1940 National Title. ( I've said this now 3 times on this very thread ) But there were people unafiliated with BC at the time that did recognize BC's sharing of that National Title ( Sportswriters Assoc). Also, for what its worth, the National Coaches Assoc. of 1940 did recognize BC as a shared Title holder that season.... but it was not until 10 years later ... 1950.... that the Coaches Poll became an acceptable format for ONE of the pre BCS vehicles to declare the National Champion.
 
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While true regarding the NCAA of 1940 position on this ( not the same as NCAA of today regarding these things).... inquisitive minds on this topic ask themselves : if an undefeated team went into the Sugar Bowl today, defeated the #1 ranked team in that Sugar Bowl ( Tennessee ) would not that undefeated, untied, team win or at the very least share in that season's National Football Title ? I think most unbiased observers would conclude... " yes ". Now having said this, it is true the NCAA of 1940 does not recognize BC's claim of a share of that 1940 National Title. ( I've said this now 3 times on this very thread ) But there were people unafiliated with BC at the time that did recognize BC's sharing of that National Title ( Sportswriters Assoc). Also, for what its worth, the National Coaches Assoc. of 1940 did recognize BC as a shared Title holder that season.... but it was not until 10 years later ... 1950.... that the Coaches Poll became an acceptable format for ONE of the pre BCS vehicles to declare the National Champion.

Translation = We got nothing.

The 1940 NCAA football season ended with the Gophers of the University of Minnesota being named the nation’s #1 team and national champion by the AP Poll, and the Stanford University Indians in second, with the two teams receiving 65 and 44 first place votes respectively. Each writer listed his choice for the top ten teams, and points were tallied based on 10 for first place, 9 for second, etc., and the AP then ranked the twenty teams with the highest number of points. Minnesota, Stanford, Boston College, and Tennessee all claim 1940 as a national championship season.
 
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Minnesota, Stanford, Boston College, and Tennessee all claim 1940 as a national championship season.

Correct. In an era of unestablished vehicles, there is legitimate dispute... with the default decider, the NCAA of 1940.

And yes, it is true that Tennessee claims it also shares in the 1940 National Title, despite losing to undefeated, untied BC that season in the final, post season, game of that season... in the Sugar Bowl. So go figure.
 
As a sidebar to BC's 1940 Sugar Bowl game... BC was not allowed to bring its starting fullback to the game ( Montgomery.. forget now his first name ). He stayed home and listened to the game on the radio in his dorm room . His " offense " ? He was black. And the Sugar Bowl Committee and opponent Tennessee would not allow blacks to play in games there in the South. A fascinating book was written about this. When BC came back with their victory over Tennessee in that Sugar Bowl they gave the game ball to Montgomery. Awhile back, BC brought Montgomery's family to Alumni for another public recognition for his accomplisments that season, despite the Sugar Bowl's exclusion of his right to participate in the biggest game of this young lad's life.
 
As a sidebar to BC's 1940 Sugar Bowl game... BC was not allowed to bring its starting fullback to the game ( Montgomery.. forget now his first name ). He stayed home and listened to the game on the radio in his dorm room . His " offense " ? He was black. And the Sugar Bowl Committee and opponent Tennessee would not allow blacks to play in games there in the South. A fascinating book was written about this. When BC came back with their victory over Tennessee in that Sugar Bowl they gave the game ball to Montgomery. Awhile back, BC brought Montgomery's family to Alumni for another public recognition for his accomplisments that season, despite the Sugar Bowl's exclusion of his right to participate in the biggest game of this young lad's life.

Okay, so that is a cool story. Good job by BC.
 
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As a sidebar to BC's 1940 Sugar Bowl game... BC was not allowed to bring its starting fullback to the game ( Montgomery.. forget now his first name ). He stayed home and listened to the game on the radio in his dorm room . His " offense " ? He was black. And the Sugar Bowl Committee and opponent Tennessee would not allow blacks to play in games there in the South. A fascinating book was written about this. When BC came back with their victory over Tennessee in that Sugar Bowl they gave the game ball to Montgomery. Awhile back, BC brought Montgomery's family to Alumni for another public recognition for his accomplisments that season, despite the Sugar Bowl's exclusion of his right to participate in the biggest game of this young lad's life.
A good job by BC would be to boycott the game. Of course, not only did they side with the southern racists, they also decided to join them 65 years later.
 
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. Of course, not only did they side with the southern racists, they also decided to join them 65 years later.

Jeeez,... by your standard, Diaco should not be setting up a current rivalry game with a school in a state ( Florida ) that seceded from the Union and joined the Southern Confederacy even before Tennessee did..... because, afterall, northern Florida is full of " southern racists", right ?

Give that " racism " angle a break, Man... its 2015 now, not 1940. Time to bring yourself into the 21st century. Besides, you know that if the ACC called and invited Uconn to its " Southern Racists " league, your School President and 95% of the Uconn football fans would be doing multiple cartwheels of glee and would support the invite in a heartbeat. And you damn well know it ( haha!)
 
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I believe in the mid 1990's the Big E invited both UConn and Villanova to join the football side of things. Villanova declined. UConn accepted and began its upgrade in 1999, went to full D1A status in 2002 and was scheduled to move to the Big East in 2005 or 2006; but, that date was pushed-up to 2004 when Miami and V Tech bolted. Of course, outside of football, UConn, like BC, was an inaugural member in 1979.
You almost have it right. The Big East had an open invitation to both UConn & Villanova as schools with 1-AA football teams to make the upgrade to 1-A status & then they would be auto-invited to join the Big East Football Conference, but there was a time limit. The invitation was extended just before Skip Holtz was hired as head coach. Skippie even mentioned it as an enticement for his employment. The problem for UConn was the austerity issues in-state (this was way before UConn-2000). When Lew Perkins committed UConn to the upgrade, the State promised the ill fated UConn Dome at Adrien's Landing. This was screwed up royally by Bob Kraft's shenanigans promising to relocate the Patriots if the blue prints were altered to an NFL style outdoor facility.. Once the Patriots backed out, Pratt & Whitney came through with the Rentschler Field land donation. There was great tension between the Patriots backing out & the time of P & WA's donation because time was running out on the Big East's invitation.
 
You almost have it right. The Big East had an open invitation to both UConn & Villanova as schools with 1-AA football teams to make the upgrade to 1-A status & then they would be auto-invited to join the Big East Football Conference, but there was a time limit. The invitation was extended just before Skip Holtz was hired as head coach. Skippie even mentioned it as an enticement for his employment. The problem for UConn was the austerity issues in-state (this was way before UConn-2000). When Lew Perkins committed UConn to the upgrade, the State promised the ill fated UConn Dome at Adrien's Landing. This was screwed up royally by Bob Kraft's shenanigans promising to relocate the Patriots if the blue prints were altered to an NFL style outdoor facility.. Once the Patriots backed out, Pratt & Whitney came through with the Rentschler Field land donation. There was great tension between the Patriots backing out & the time of P & WA's donation because time was running out on the Big East's invitation.
Speaking of former Uconn AD, Lew Perkins, we'll never see Blumenthal and Perkins on each others Christmas Card send list.As most here are probably aware Blumy's lawsuit was severely compromised in depos of both Swofford and Perkins that Perkins phone records show dates and times that Perkins was privately petitioning the ACC to get Uconn at invite. Nothing wrong with that.... except the timing. Blumy was completely unaware of Perkins doing this at the launch of his ACC, Swofford, et al lawsuit. I personally mentioned this to Blumy at a wedding reception we mutually attended in Connecticut a few years back and he acknowledged that he was unaware of Perkins private contacts with Swofford at the time. Blumy then said..... " Mr. Perkins moved far, far away from Connecticut after this time period, and that fact is probably celebrated by both he and hundreds of others". He smiled. I did too. And it was clear there is no love lost between Blumy and Perkins.
 
I have no problem with someone having an agenda. But, when someone tries to hide it, they lose all credibility. When the attempt at a hidden agenda is this poor, it becomes insulting. It also demonstrates a complete lack of self awareness and intellectual integrity.

Maybe you are f@@king with everyone, or think you are. That you have so much time on your hands also suggests a pretty sad existence I suspect.
 
Jeeez,... by your standard, Diaco should not be setting up a current rivalry game with a school in a state ( Florida ) that seceded from the Union and joined the Southern Confederacy even before Tennessee did..... because, afterall, northern Florida is full of " southern racists", right ?

Give that " racism " angle a break, Man... its 2015 now, not 1940. Time to bring yourself into the 21st century. Besides, you know that if the ACC called and invited Uconn to its " Southern Racists " league, your School President and 95% of the Uconn football fans would be doing multiple cartwheels of glee and would support the invite in a heartbeat. And you damn well know it ( haha!)
So you won't ackowledge that they shouldn't have played the game if they really cared about their african american teammate?
I mean the Big 10 teams didn't do a bowl game so it's not like you would have been an outlier.
 
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Maybe you are f@@king with everyone, or think you are. That you have so much time on your hands also suggests a pretty sad existence I suspect.

I don't waste my time with those that simply want to engage in personal insults with me. If thats " your thing:, fine and all, but its just a waste of your time as well.... so.... whatever.
 
Speaking of former Uconn AD, Lew Perkins, we'll never see Blumenthal and Perkins on each others Christmas Card send list.As most here are probably aware Blumy's lawsuit was severely compromised in depos of both Swofford and Perkins that Perkins phone records show dates and times that Perkins was privately petitioning the ACC to get Uconn at invite. Nothing wrong with that.... except the timing. Blumy was completely unaware of Perkins doing this at the launch of his ACC, Swofford, et al lawsuit. I personally mentioned this to Blumy at a wedding reception we mutually attended in Connecticut a few years back and he acknowledged that he was unaware of Perkins private contacts with Swofford at the time. Blumy then said..... " Mr. Perkins moved far, far away from Connecticut after this time period, and that fact is probably celebrated by both he and hundreds of others". He smiled. I did too. And it was clear there is no love lost between Blumy and Perkins.
How did you get this alleged information?
 
BCU sucks. They are a mediocre football program at best. Any demand of more than 1 to 1 series would be a joke. UCONN does not need BCU. Frankly, I would rather see UCONN sign up for another series with BYU.

Comparing BCU football to UCONN basketball in the NE is laughable. UCONN has achieved in basketball BCU can only dream of in football.

B1G considers UCONN a P5 opponent. If UCONN ever gets into the B1G, BCU would be ever more irrelevant than they are now if that's even possible.
 
Speaking of former Uconn AD, Lew Perkins, we'll never see Blumenthal and Perkins on each others Christmas Card send list.As most here are probably aware Blumy's lawsuit was severely compromised in depos of both Swofford and Perkins that Perkins phone records show dates and times that Perkins was privately petitioning the ACC to get Uconn at invite. Nothing wrong with that.... except the timing. Blumy was completely unaware of Perkins doing this at the launch of his ACC, Swofford, et al lawsuit. I personally mentioned this to Blumy at a wedding reception we mutually attended in Connecticut a few years back and he acknowledged that he was unaware of Perkins private contacts with Swofford at the time. Blumy then said..... " Mr. Perkins moved far, far away from Connecticut after this time period, and that fact is probably celebrated by both he and hundreds of others". He smiled. I did too. And it was clear there is no love lost between Blumy and Perkins.
While that may be the case, there was a 0% chance UConn would've gained admission to the ACC at the time Perkins would've been lobbying, presumably 02-03. We weren't even a full 1A member at that time, so any lobbying would've had to be for some kind of down the road pipe dream. That said, I've always felt that lawsuit was dumb and ridiculous - though it was as much spearheaded by others in the BE, including VT and Pitt, as it was UConn and the state.
 
1. as much as I despize BCU, a series with them is far, far more beneficial to UConn than one with BYU. A BC series fills in the corner and upper seats at the Rent in a way BYU never can.

2.UConn would have been better off if Blumenthal had gone to Kansas instead of Perkins. Perkins had many faults starting with creating a greedy work culture that got people sent to jail at KU. But Perkins' presence was a net plus for UConn, especially considering what followed.
 
While that may be the case, there was a 0% chance UConn would've gained admission to the ACC at the time Perkins would've been lobbying, presumably 02-03. We weren't even a full 1A member at that time, so any lobbying would've had to be for some kind of down the road pipe dream. That said, I've always felt that lawsuit was dumb and ridiculous - though it was as much spearheaded by others in the BE, including VT and Pitt, as it was UConn and the state.

I agree.... on all points here.
 
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