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How does the university response sound like they're accepting this? Manuel is pretty clearly calling out the NCAA on how absurd their methodology is.

I really liked Manuel's response.
 
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I didnt think Uconn had any chance at winning the appeal. The only real chance they had/have is for the NCAA to change the time frame for using the data. It is illogical if they don't use the most recent data but we are talking about the NCAA here.
 
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Sue the bastards. The 'double jep' seems a good place to start.
 

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How does the university response sound like they're accepting this? Manuel is pretty clearly calling out the NCAA on how absurd their methodology is.
It just sounds like the university is 'hoping' they reconsider. How many more times do they have to shoot us down before the university abandons the politically correct jargon and fights?
 
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During the season that the UConn men's basketball team won the NCAA national championship, the squad had a nearly-perfect 978 APR score in 2010-11. During the fall 2011 semester, the team had a perfect APR score. Connecticut's other 23 athletic teams all have four-year APR scores that are above 945.

NCAA should be ashamed of themselves. But I am sure they aren't.
 

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I didnt think Uconn had any chance at winning the appeal. The only real chance they had/have is for the NCAA to change the time frame for using the data. It is illogical if they don't use the most recent data but we are talking about the NCAA here.
This is right, but an appeal ought to be perfectly legitimate, given the APR improvement in recent years. Why it's not is clear only to Mark Emmert, apparently.
 

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During the season that the UConn men's basketball team won the NCAA national championship, the squad had a nearly-perfect 978 APR score in 2010-11. During the fall 2011 semester, the team had a perfect APR score. Connecticut's other 23 athletic teams all have four-year APR scores that are above 945.

NCAA should be ashamed of themselves. But I am sure they aren't.

Considering the only kids left on the team are perfect and account for (currently) 11 players, it is pretty frustrating for the kids. I feel bad for them.
 
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i blame dyson
I know this is a joke, but Dyson was the only one out of the eight players from the 2006 recruiting class to graduate. What really hurts is that Gavin Edwards was supposedly 3-6 credits away from graduating.
 

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AD Warde Manuel to hold conference call re: appeal rejection in about 15 minutes.

I'm interested to see what is said... Will he stand up for the program?

This is an outrage.
 

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AD Warde Manuel to hold conference call re: appeal rejection in about 15 minutes.

I'm interested to see what is said... Will he stand up for the program?

This is an outrage.

Considering his initial quotes, I think he is going to be fairly strong in his wording.
 

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This is right, but an appeal ought to be perfectly legitimate, given the APR improvement in recent years. Why it's not is clear only to Mark Emmert, apparently.
they gave ULM back a year
 
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Sue the bastards. The 'double jep' seems a good place to start.
They can't sue under double jeopardy since that only refers to people being tried by the government for the same crime more than once. The NCAA, by law, does not fall under the category of a government entity.

Where they do have a case, though, is how they're punished twice for something that was put in place retroactively...especially when, as Manuel pointed out, they gave off the impression schools would have time to adjust to the rule change.

This is far from over. If the NCAA doesn't decide to use the 2011-12 data as the most recent, then I expect UConn to sue (if they don't decide to do so before then).
 

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- Dudley "Booger" Dawson
 

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Shockingly bad decision that was entirely expected. Manuel was spot on in his comments.
 
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what's really puzzling to me, and i think a good basis for an argument, is that they (NCAA) is still handing out waivers to other schools (http://www.ulmwarhawks.com/ViewArti...81&DB_LANG=C&ATCLID=205386573&DB_OEM_ID=19000). being that they are a private organization, they're allowed to make unfair bylaws as far as i understand, regardless of retroactive laws etc. but a good basis for a suit would be that they're trying "to make an example out of uconn" and uconn, being the bigger name, gets unfairly punished and smaller schools, like ulm, get by

its bullshit
 
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Not surprised, NCAA wants to make an example out of a big school... we are unfortunately in position to be that school. Is this not an ex post facto law, though? The NCAA is increasing the punishment for a crime that was already committed, by defintion they are supposed to be used going foward, meaning any crime commited before than can not be retroactively punished or have an increased punishment. Can someone with a better understanding correct me on this because it seems what the NCAA is doing is unconsititutional.. my community college education can only get me so far.
 

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Not surprised, NCAA wants to make an example out of a big school... we are unfortunately in position to be that school. Is this not an ex post facto law, though? The NCAA is increasing the punishment for a crime that was already committed, by defintion they are supposed to be used going foward, meaning any crime commited before than can not be retroactively punished or have an increased punishment. Can someone with a better understanding correct me on this because it seems what the NCAA is doing is unconsititutional.. my community college education can only get me so far.
They're not crimes, and they're not a government. They're violations of rules made by a private organization. That's the difference. Doesn't make it any less wrong, but there it is.
 
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They're not crimes, and they're not a government. They're violations of rules made by a private organization. That's the difference. Doesn't make it any less wrong, but there it is.

I figured as such, funny how the media seems to continuesly overlook the fact the NCAA is getting away with this maddness.
 
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Where the hell does this leave us? I hope Calhoun announces he's staying next week. We need some stability and fast. Lamb and Drumond will make some news soon, hopefully in our favor, yet for Lamb I can't see him coming back for regular season victories. Drummond maybe for 'work' purposes.

This sucks!
 
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