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30 3s is fine with this team. We have great shooters. Andres 4 heaves at the end inflated the number a bit. Nobody was complaining about this until we lost.
Agreed. It’s about who takes them and when. Opening the game with possessions where Sanogo and Jackson are taking threes is no good. Those guys need to use some discretion as to when to shoot, especially if there’s a lot of clock left. Hawkins, karaban and California should have a total green light - anytime, anywhere. Alleyne isn’t too far behind in my book. If he has an open look im rarely going to be mad at him shooting it, and slightly behind that is Newton.

I mean there are just a lot of guys who get big minutes for which them getting a three attempt of varying degrees of difficulty depending on the player is a great possession. If that ends up being 30+ attempts , that’s not in and of itself bad.
 
So we're talking about a potential 1 seed or a final 4 or a natty.....but we're going to get whipped up for a road game at PC? Sure. They'll play hard. Cooley is a nice coach. But I expect to win easily. Is that wrong?
Probably. But godspeed.
 
we should kick PC's butt but great respect for Ed Cooley after seeing the recent CBSSN segment with Clark Kellogg,
 
I look forward to two hours of Bynum and Breed running kamikaze style out of control into the lane, throwing their head backwards and falling on the floor and Providence shooting upwards of 30 free throws because for whatever reason.. refs respect that style.
 
30 3s is fine with this team. We have great shooters. Andres 4 heaves at the end inflated the number a bit. Nobody was complaining about this until we lost.

Wait if they’re heaves he shouldn’t be taking them. They wouldn’t have counted because only the first 9 meant anything? You people are ridiculous when he made the great steal and we still had a small chance he shouldn’t have shot it so fast if he didn’t think he could make it. Oh he knew “it was just a heave.” Such crap
 
Agreed. It’s about who takes them and when. Opening the game with possessions where Sanogo and Jackson are taking threes is no good. Those guys need to use some discretion as to when to shoot, especially if there’s a lot of clock left. Hawkins, karaban and California should have a total green light - anytime, anywhere. Alleyne isn’t too far behind in my book. If he has an open look im rarely going to be mad at him shooting it, and slightly behind that is Newton.

I mean there are just a lot of guys who get big minutes for which them getting a three attempt of varying degrees of difficulty depending on the player is a great possession. If that ends up being 30+ attempts , that’s not in and of itself bad.

While I agree that we shot a bit too early in the possession a few times vs Xavier, some of the people on here just cannot stand the strategic thought of a big man shooting a 3pt shot.

They would still complain about Sanogo shooting them even if he was shooting 100% on good volume.

Thank goodness none of you have our coaching staff’s ear.
 
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So we're talking about a potential 1 seed or a final 4 or a natty.....but we're going to get whipped up for a road game at PC? Sure. They'll play hard. Cooley is a nice coach. But I expect to win easily. Is that wrong?
Talk is cheap. Let us see where we are after the next 3 games. Championship teams win road games. After Marquette we will have a better idea than the Natty or Final 4 prognosticators. Are not going anywhere if we can't beat Providence away or Creighton at home and then go to Marquette and keep it rolling.
 
So we're talking about a potential 1 seed or a final 4 or a natty.....but we're going to get whipped up for a road game at PC? Sure. They'll play hard. Cooley is a nice coach. But I expect to win easily. Is that wrong?
Wrong? Not necessarily. Most probably just stupid. But, what can I say?

Expectations? Met!
 
So we're talking about a potential 1 seed or a final 4 or a natty.....but we're going to get whipped up for a road game at PC? Sure. They'll play hard. Cooley is a nice coach. But I expect to win easily. Is that wrong?
If UConn comes out with the intensity that Deepster came out with on the PC forum last night then we should be fine. Way to lead by example Deepster your an animal.
 
Most of those 3’s were open looks. It’s what a packline defense forces. We needed to make them
Jackson shouldn’t be taking threes, especially not 12. Hurley needs to adapt to teams doubling sanogo, sagging on Jackson, and ISOing Karaban and Hawkins
 
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Didn’t see this thread and posted this in the other PeeCee thread

What Cooley did last year was screen sanogo under the basket so the guards can get by for an easy layup. They ran that play over and over and over. Similarly to what Xavier and nova have done. The only difference with Xavier and Nova being that they ISO’s either Karaban or Hawkins.

If Hurley can’t adjust with the starting lineup that’s out there, we may have to switch it up early. That includes our offense. If teams are going to sag on Jackson and dare him to shoot, we have to make the switch faster. Jackson cannot be shooting threes. A lineup of Joey C/Diarra/Newton, Hawkins/Joey C/Alleyne, Jackson, Sanogo, Clingan

The fans and teams of every college we’re going to to play against from here on out knows that all they have to do is get under Jackson and Hurley’s skin and they’ll get T’s. They’re going to go after Jackson a lot more. The refs are now waiting to T up Danny

Add all that in with one of the craziest homecourts in college basketball, it’s going to make for a very close and intense game
 
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Wrong? Not necessarily. Most probably just stupid. But, what can I say?

Expectations? Met!

What part is stupid? If you’re going to try and insult me, make it interesting or funny.
 
Amen, Providence is going to drive. We don't get any rim protections from Adama and Karaban. Need Clingan's rim protection and board work on both ends.
Sanogo provides rim protection, the failure is the same as it's ever been, recovering in time on the high hedge or from guarding a big that shoots from outside. Andre hasn't been good guarding the paint and Karaban is a little better but still doesn't block shots. Opponents attack the rim even more aggressively when AJax is the 4, it's a bad lineup for us. I've said for months, if we are going to keep sending Sanogo outside, we need Johnson at the 4. Agree, this is a matchup where Clingan can and will play more, and where Sanogo shouldn't be chasing outside. The last two games featured multiple bigs that can shoot from outside. We need to play PC defensively the way Xavier played us, and keep Sanogo and Clingan in drop.
 
Play Big East Husky hardball. Drive, crash the boards, start the rock fight don't react to it. You know it's coming. Chucking 3s isn't our game. Unleash the Clingan monster early and often. We're not at the FT line because we're not challenging defenses. Providence is a good, not great team but they're not going to just show up. Question is, will we? We got our bell rung a few days ago, who are the leaders on this team? That's what bounce back games tell you. It'll be a good one.
 
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What part is stupid? If you’re going to try and insult me, make it interesting or funny.
Providence has a good team. Cooley is a good coach, with an impressive track record against Coach Hurley.

You seem to believe that the Friars will just turtle and we will run them out of the gym.

Stupid? Probably. Maybe just profoundly ignorant.
 
Add all that in with one of the craziest homecourts in college basketball, it’s going to make for a very close and intense game

Is this really a thing or was this a bit of sarcasm? I mean this in the most sincere way.. outside of the Nova game I don't ever remember hearing about their homecourt advantage. They proved last year that they can be. Possibly this is me just not remembering their homecourt after not playing them for so many years
 
Is this really a thing or was this a bit of sarcasm? I mean this in the most sincere way.. outside of the Nova game I don't ever remember hearing about their homecourt advantage. They proved last year that they can be. Possibly this is me just not remembering their homecourt after not playing them for so many years
yeah, they're fans and students show up. I noticed it last year how crazy it was

Ignore the song
 
yeah, they're fans and students show up. I noticed it last year how crazy it was

Ignore the song

 
Look guys, it's pretty simple - we had a very bad defensive game.

Xavier being the best offensive team we've played made it look even worse.

Even great teams have a bad game occasionally.

Sanogo was stuck in no-man's land on switches (not even high hedges, just plain basic switches) more times in this gaem than in probably all the previous 14 games combined.

Our weak-side help rotation was late getting into the lane all game. No matter who it was. Also not characteristic of our usual level of defense.

I am sure the guys saw a ton of game footage on it and restoring our usual level of D was a point of emphasis during practice the last few days.


We don't need to do a complete defensive overall, nor do we need to abandon the high-hedge, look into the transfer portal for replacements for Sanogo or Karaban, etc., etc. Fricken relax.
 
Look guys, it's pretty simple - we had a very bad defensive game.

Xavier being the best offensive team we've played made it look even worse.

Even great teams have a bad game occasionally.

Sanogo was stuck in no-man's land on switches (not even high hedges, just plain basic switches) more times in this gaem than in probably all the previous 14 games combined.

Our weak-side help rotation was late getting into the lane all game. No matter who it was. Also not characteristic of our usual level of defense.

I am sure the guys saw a ton of game footage on it and restoring our usual level of D was a point of emphasis during practice the last few days.


We don't need to do a complete defensive overall, nor do we need to abandon the high-hedge, look into the transfer portal for replacements for Sanogo or Karaban, etc., etc. Fricken relax.

A lineup of Nunge, Freemantle, Jones, Kunkel and Boum is going to make a lot of defenses look bad. Providence doesn't have a lineup like that.

Xavier would be 14-1 if Miller had been able to wash the Travis Steele off this team faster. Steele was a beta coach that had his team expecting to lose close games, and you could see Xavier playing like that in November and December. He reminded me a lot of Lappas. Colby Jones and Freemantle did whatever they wanted under Steele, which was usually just enough hero ball screwups to cost them close games.

Miller has Xavier playing more disciplined (with the exception of maybe Jones) and confident. It is a completely different team now. Xavier is Colby Jones playing under control and one bench guard becoming a bigger scoring threat from being challenging for a Final Four spot.
 
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Look guys, it's pretty simple - we had a very bad defensive game.

Xavier being the best offensive team we've played made it look even worse.

Even great teams have a bad game occasionally.

Sanogo was stuck in no-man's land on switches (not even high hedges, just plain basic switches) more times in this gaem than in probably all the previous 14 games combined.

Our weak-side help rotation was late getting into the lane all game. No matter who it was. Also not characteristic of our usual level of defense.

I am sure the guys saw a ton of game footage on it and restoring our usual level of D was a point of emphasis during practice the last few days.


We don't need to do a complete defensive overall, nor do we need to abandon the high-hedge, look into the transfer portal for replacements for Sanogo or Karaban, etc., etc. Fricken relax.
Sanogo was not the problem on D. Most of what people here saw as a defensive lapses, were Sanogo attempting to defend a player that one of his teammates was supposed to be guarding. The perimeter D is what broke down, we didn't switch or fight through screens quickly enough. You could go zone, but both Nunge and Freemantle can shoot. As for Clingan you've got two clips, one, he's sticking in the paint and Nunge is just completely unguarded for 3. Next, he comes out on Nunge, who blows by him for a layup. If you want to know why he didn't play much, that's why.

Just a few clips, but where bigs involved: Freemantle is well defended and hits a tough shot on AS. Then Freemantle burns Karaban. Then DC is miles away from Nunge on a 3. Then high hedge by AS, P&R with Karaban in the paint and Nunge scores +1. Sanogo high hedge, Hawkins is late from covering the lane, leads to an open 3. Sanogo hedging, AK in paint and he can't handle Hunter, scores +1. Sanogo and Newton out on Nunge, Newton late coming off screen and Jones has an easy layup. DC comes out to guard Nunge, who easily drives by him for a layup. Sanogo comes out on Nunge who is screening, Nunge rolls and the paint is empty (don't know if that is on AS or Alleyne, but AK had to stay with Freemantle. Sanogo suggests somebody was supposed to cover the paint). AS and AK both in the paint and move to stay with Nunge and Freemantle, Boum burns Diarra. Sanogo trailing Nunge, AK on Freemantle, Hawk burned by Boum (Newton nearly a steal in help), AK slides over, and another +1. Freemantle scree, Boum goes around, AS has to stay because Joey is slow on the switch, then AS can't get back to Freemantle on a 3. AK on Freemantle, AS on Nunge, double screen, Jackson loses Jones, AK tries to slide over and can't stop Jones [should have been a moving screen on Freemantle who picked off AJax]. AS on Freemantle who screens AJax, AS comes out on a Boum 3, Hawk tries to block out Nunge down low, Jones gets the board and scores [Newton's error caused Hawk to leave Jones].

 
Sanogo was not the problem on D. Most of what people here saw as a defensive lapses, were Sanogo attempting to defend a player that one of his teammates was supposed to be guarding. The perimeter D is what broke down, we didn't switch or fight through screens quickly enough. You could go zone, but both Nunge and Freemantle can shoot. As for Clingan you've got two clips, one, he's sticking in the paint and Nunge is just completely unguarded for 3. Next, he comes out on Nunge, who blows by him for a layup. If you want to know why he didn't play much, that's why.

Just a few clips, but where bigs involved: Freemantle is well defended and hits a tough shot on AS. Then Freemantle burns Karaban. Then DC is miles away from Nunge on a 3. Then high hedge by AS, P&R with Karaban in the paint and Nunge scores +1. Sanogo high hedge, Hawkins is late from covering the lane, leads to an open 3. Sanogo hedging, AK in paint and he can't handle Hunter, scores +1. Sanogo and Newton out on Nunge, Newton late coming off screen and Jones has an easy layup. DC comes out to guard Nunge, who easily drives by him for a layup. Sanogo comes out on Nunge who is screening, Nunge rolls and the paint is empty (don't know if that is on AS or Alleyne, but AK had to stay with Freemantle. Sanogo suggests somebody was supposed to cover the paint). AS and AK both in the paint and move to stay with Nunge and Freemantle, Boum burns Diarra. Sanogo trailing Nunge, AK on Freemantle, Hawk burned by Boum (Newton nearly a steal in help), AK slides over, and another +1. Freemantle scree, Boum goes around, AS has to stay because Joey is slow on the switch, then AS can't get back to Freemantle on a 3. AK on Freemantle, AS on Nunge, double screen, Jackson loses Jones, AK tries to slide over and can't stop Jones [should have been a moving screen on Freemantle who picked off AJax]. AS on Freemantle who screens AJax, AS comes out on a Boum 3, Hawk tries to block out Nunge down low, Jones gets the board and scores [Newton's error caused Hawk to leave Jones].


Not sure what you're watching. There was no reason for Sanogo to be doing those soft double teams on the perimeter. I don't know if that's Hurley telling him to do that or Sanogo just doing it but it left the lane wide open for layups.
 
Not sure what you're watching. There was no reason for Sanogo to be doing those soft double teams on the perimeter. I don't know if that's Hurley telling him to do that or Sanogo just doing it but it left the lane wide open for layups.
It is absolutely our designed defense. Especially against any screener who can also shoot. We do that every game. Usually the perimeter guys do a better job.
 
It is absolutely our designed defense. Especially against any screener who can also shoot. We do that every game. Usually the perimeter guys do a better job.
There's no reason for him to be doing soft doubles out at the three point line. The guard has the guy in front of him. Sanogo comes out with a soft double leaving the lane wide open and they just pass out of it for a layup.
 
There's no reason for him to be doing soft doubles out at the three point line. The guard has the guy in front of him. Sanogo comes out with a soft double leaving the lane wide open and they just pass out of it for a layup.
Then complain to Hurley. This is what we always run, and I've had the same complaint all along. Against most teams, it's fine. Against Xavier (and Creighton & Nova) it poses problems due to bigs who can shoot. But when DC was in, and played deep drop coverage, Nunge just took the open 3. Hurley has always prioritized taking away the 3, and not the rim. That screener is Sanogo's man, and since he can shoot, he can't cover that man and the rim. It's not a soft double, he's guarding the screener. The one time in the clips he came off to disrupt the drive, they kicked to the screener, Freemantle for an open 3.

I hoped we'd switch more on screens with all this size outside, but we tried to go around all of them and our guards and wings got burned.
 
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