UConn All-Time Scoring List: Ryan Boatright

[Palatine]

What's really crazy, is that by the end of the year, the last three point guards for UConn could be three of the top ten scorers in UConn history.

They also are among the leaders in games played because of the longer season and more Tourney appearances. This helps their total points.

Highest Scoring Average by Game (Career)

Wes Bialosuknia 23.6
Walt Dropo 20.7
Richard Hamilton 19.8
Ray Allen 19.0
Bob Boyd 19.0
Toby Kimball 18.4
Donyell Marshall 18.1
Bob Staak 18.1
Caron Butler 18.0
Tony Hanson 17.9


Boat is at 18 a game for 2014/15. For his career he will not make this list.

I don't want to take anything away from Boat's accomplishments. At the same time, we need to recognize what others have done in a Huskies uniform and no one comes close to Wes.

 

[CallMeBruce]

They also are among the leaders in games played because of the longer season and more Tourney appearances. This helps their total points.

Highest Scoring Average by Game (Career)

Wes Bialosuknia 23.6
Walt Dropo 20.7
Richard Hamilton 19.8
Ray Allen 19.0
Bob Boyd 19.0
Toby Kimball 18.4
Donyell Marshall 18.1
Bob Staak 18.1
Caron Butler 18.0
Tony Hanson 17.9


Boat is at 18 a game for 2014/15. For his career he will not make this list.

I don't want to take anything away from Boat's accomplishments. At the same time, we need to recognize what others have done in a Huskies uniform and no one comes close to Wes.

The quality of the opposition that the 90s/00s guys faced was much higher than what Wes played against. Yeah, he had fewer games to play in, but let's not be so ridiculous as to pretend he was a better player than Ray Allen or Rip Hamilton.

 

[gtcam]

The quality of the opposition that the 90s/00s guys faced was much higher than what Wes played against. Yeah, he had fewer games to play in, but let's not be so ridiculous as to pretend he was a better player than Ray Allen or Rip Hamilton.

Not a better player, No
But he and Ray would have in interesting 3pt shooting contest
Remember - no 3pters in Wes's day - imagine what the average would have been if there was. He could hit them from deep and the release and follow thru were as smooth as silk.

 

[methodology]

Not a better player, No
But he and Ray would have in interesting 3pt shooting contest
Remember - no 3pters in Wes's day - imagine what the average would have been if there was. He could hit them from deep and the release and follow thru were as smooth as silk.

Don't also forget that Wes wasn't allowed to play his Freshman year. He only played 3 season as back in his day all Freshman played JV

He was 5th in the nation for PPG as a senior at 28 ppg and did it all without a 3 point line. He was a better shooter than Ray and I think some older folks would agree. He was not as good an all around player as Ray but as a shooter no one in UConn history can really compete with him. I can only imagine what his numbers would have been with a 3 point line.

 

[CallMeBruce]

If Wes was a better shooter than Ray, he would have been able to stick in the ABA. Ray might be the best shooter in the history of the sport. I don't care how old you are, you're wrong about this.

 

[Palatine]

There was no three point line in college when Wes played. However in his one ABA season with a three point line, he was second in the league and set the all time ABA record of hitting 9 straight three pointers.

This is not say that Wes was better than Ray. But with a tiny amount of space he could kill you. And his 23 points a game will keep him on the top ten list for a long, long time.

 

[methodology]

If Wes was a better shooter than Ray, he would have been able to stick in the ABA. Ray might be the best shooter in the history of the sport. I don't care how old you are, you're wrong about this.

Way off base on your assumptions. Wes willingly left playing basketball. He could have played many years if he wanted. Instead he decided that he wanted to travel the country with his gf and eventual wife and start a family. That was what was important to Wes. He enjoyed basketball but his wife and family were the most important things in his life and that's what he wanted to focus on.

Played one year and ended up 2nd in the league in 3pt% at .397 and set and ABA record for 9 3s in a row made. Dude was the greatest shooter to don a husky uniform. Ray is the greatest player.

Ray is a career 40% shooter from 3. No telling what Wes career could have been.

 

[Catsailor]

Hard to compare players games from different eras. Yet we often do and some arguments seemingly never die. A great shooter is a great shooter regardless of era. Great shooters figure out a way to overcome various challenges to get their shot off.

I happened to go to middle school and HS with a great shooter who people said would never make it at the next level (continuously through his career). I was bummed he didn't go to UCONN. He became a 3 time Consensus All-American, 38ppg as a junior, 33ppg avg for 3 years in college, w/o 3 pt shot 13 years in NBA averaged 17.9 w/o 3-pt shot, NBA All Star and HOF @ 5'9"

Fast forward 40 years and Boat and Bazz also had their doubters on this board with similar arguments.

When I got to UCONN I quickly learned what even a blind man could tell from the snap of the net....that Wes was a really great shooter and with ridiculous range who could get his shot off with the best of them.

I'm not arguing who is the best UCONN player/shooter because I think it's impossible to judge across eras.

I just want to testify that Wes was a great great shooter and damn good player and I'm sure if he played in any era there would be no drop off in made shots just an increase in his ppg average.

 

[Kitaman]

Where did Shabazz wind up?

This is a major reason why Boat's numbers aren't higher. He deferred so much his first 3 years, and also had some scoring company. Bazz was green lighted for 3 years and was somewhat color blind as a freshman, Boat for one maybe two.

What he is doing this year with basically little help and being double-teamed, and the focal point of every defensive scheme is historical in itself. What I love about this board and the media is that Boat's size is never put out there as an issue, even as a hinderance. He is respected as a guard, not a 'small' guard.

 

[CallMeBruce]

There was no three point line in college when Wes played. However in his one ABA season with a three point line, he was second in the league and set the all time ABA record of hitting 9 straight three pointers.

Second in the ABA was .397, and he only shot them half as often as Ray did.

Way off base on your assumptions. Wes willingly left playing basketball. He could have played many years if he wanted. Instead he decided that he wanted to travel the country with his gf and eventual wife and start a family. That was what was important to Wes. He enjoyed basketball but his wife and family were the most important things in his life and that's what he wanted to focus on.

Because he was a fringe player in a second-rate league. This is not a guy who turned down a career as a star. He had a 12.5 PER and played 17.5mpg.

 

[johnhuskies95]

Second in the ABA was .397, and he only shot them half as often as Ray did.



Because he was a fringe player in a second-rate league. This is not a guy who turned down a career as a star. He had a 12.5 PER and played 17.5mpg.

It's not like Ray set the world on fire as a rookie. Who knows what would've happened to Bialosuknia if he had played longer.

 

[BearJWS]

Second in the ABA was .397, and he only shot them half as often as Ray did.

Because he was a fringe player in a second-rate league. This is not a guy who turned down a career as a star. He had a 12.5 PER and played 17.5mpg.

I think the argument is best shooter at UConn, not the NBA.

Wes Bialosuknia was a 6'2" guard, but he wasn't a 6'5" athletic guard like Allen. Wes Bialosuknia had great range, but it's difficult to compare since when Wes played there were no 3 pt shots (so his ppg are impressive). Wes only played 3 years, same as Allen. When Wes played there were less early season tournaments (so less games). They were both great in their own era. Calling Wes second-rate is not accurate though.

 

[tzznandrew]

15 Ryan Boatright 1,608, 13.8 ppg
14 Jerome Dyson 1,630, 14.4 ppg
13 Mike McKay 1,633, 14.3 ppg
12 Donyell Marshall 1,648, 18.1 ppg
11 Khalid El-Amin 1,650, 15.3 ppg
10 Cliff Robinson 1,664, 15.3 ppg
9 Wes Bialosuknia 1,673, 23.6 ppg

The jump to Kemba, at 8, is 110 points.

 

[nomar]

If you think Wes B was a better long-range shooter than the greatest long-range shooter in NBA history, then I'm not sure what to tell you. Are you talking about agame of HORSE, or are you taking about game action? You can't compare some guy shooting over 5'11" Irish dudes in the Yankee Conference to what Ray did against 6'5" athletes from Georgetown and Syracuse.

 

[tcf15]

“@NeillOstrout: Ryan Boatright now has 1,666 points. No. 10 all-time in UConn history.”

 

[mcs333]

I saw both Wes and Ray play at UCONN and Wes was the best long distance shooter ever at UCONN. I wish they had his shoot chart his senior year. Unbelievable range.

 

[UConnSwag11]

Boatright (1,689 points) moved in front of Wes Bialosuknia (1,673) and into ninth place on UConn's scoring list, behind Kemba Walker (1,783).

 

[tcf15]

Boatright (1,689 points) moved in front of Wes Bialosuknia (1,673) and into ninth place on UConn's scoring list, behind Kemba Walker (1,783).

Here's the rest of the list:

9.) Ryan Boatright (1,689 points)
8.) Kemba Walker (1,783 points)
7.) Ben Gordon (1,795 points)
6.) Corny Thompson (1,810 points)
5.) Ray Allen (1,922 points)
4.) Shabazz Napier (1,959 points)
3.) Tony Hanson (1,990 points)
2.) Richard Hamilton (2,036 points)
1.) Chris Smith (2,145 points)

Ryan Boatright also joins Shabazz Napier as the only players to be in the top ten for scoring and assists.

Here's the list of assists leaders:

10.) Ryan Boatright (479)
9.) Khalid El-Amin (479)
8.) Ricky Moore (510)
7.) Marcus Williams (510)
6.) Karl Hobbs (534)
5.) Doron Sheffer (559)
4.) Kevin Ollie (619)
3.) Shabazz Napier (646)
2.) Tate George (677)
1.) Taliek Brown (722)

 

[UConnSwag11]

Here's the rest of the list:

9.) Ryan Boatright (1,689 points)
8.) Kemba Walker (1,783 points)
7.) Ben Gordon (1,795 points)
6.) Corny Thompson (1,810 points)
5.) Ray Allen (1,922 points)
4.) Shabazz Napier (1,959 points)
3.) Tony Hanson (1,990 points)
2.) Richard Hamilton (2,036 points)
1.) Chris Smith (2,145 points)

Ryan Boatright also joins Shabazz Napier as the only players to be in the top ten for scoring and assists.

Here's the list of assists leaders:

10.) Ryan Boatright (479)
9.) Khalid El-Amin (479)
8.) Ricky Moore (510)
7.) Marcus Williams (510)
6.) Karl Hobbs (534)
5.) Doron Sheffer (559)
4.) Kevin Ollie (619)
3.) Shabazz Napier (646)
2.) Tate George (677)
1.) Taliek Brown (722)

and if you look at it, they never really had a dominant team that would score consistently

 

[lange10]

5 points tomorrow and Boat moves past Kemba for 8th all time. 17 and he moves past Gordon for 7th. If we get into the dance Boat should finish at least 6th all time on our scoring list. Gonna miss him. What a warrior.

 

[lavuuk153]

5 points tomorrow and Boat moves past Kemba for 8th all time. 17 and he moves past Gordon for 7th. If we get into the dance Boat should finish at least 6th all time on our scoring list. Gonna miss him. What a warrior.

Even if they miss the dance, he'll get at least 1 NIT game. I say he should shoot for 5th. 20.4 points per game for 7 games seems doable.

 

[UConNick]

Hard to compare players games from different eras. Yet we often do and some arguments seemingly never die. A great shooter is a great shooter regardless of era. Great shooters figure out a way to overcome various challenges to get their shot off.

I happened to go to middle school and HS with a great shooter who people said would never make it at the next level (continuously through his career). I was bummed he didn't go to UCONN. He became a 3 time Consensus All-American, 38ppg as a junior, 33ppg avg for 3 years in college, w/o 3 pt shot 13 years in NBA averaged 17.9 w/o 3-pt shot, NBA All Star and HOF @ 5'9"

Fast forward 40 years and Boat and Bazz also had their doubters on this board with similar arguments.

When I got to UCONN I quickly learned what even a blind man could tell from the snap of the net....that Wes was a really great shooter and with ridiculous range who could get his shot off with the best of them.

I'm not arguing who is the best UCONN player/shooter because I think it's impossible to judge across eras.

I just want to testify that Wes was a great great shooter and damn good player and I'm sure if he played in any era there would be no drop off in made shots just an increase in his ppg average.

I know this is a month later (haha), but you're talking about Calvin Murphy right? Still a legend in Norwalk, although relations between him and the school soured a couple years ago.

 

[bmayuc]

I saw both Wes and Ray play at UCONN and Wes was the best long distance shooter ever at UCONN. I wish they had his shoot chart his senior year. Unbelievable range.

I know this is a month old but i just read this for the first time.

and... STFU. Ray Allen is the certified best shooter in NBA History. I get it you old guys like to talk about the Yankee Conference days and all that, but seriously drop this false equivalence stuff.

Ray Allen is the best shooter in UConn history, by a country mile. He is the best shooter in NBA history!! end of argument.

 

[Catsailor]

I know this is a month later (haha), but you're talking about Calvin Murphy right? Still a legend in Norwalk, although relations between him and the school soured a couple years ago.

Yes. Calvin Murphy. I knew him well back in the day. Regarding his relations with NHS, I suspect it had something to do with the allegations/law suit brought by his daughters.

My point was size doesn't always matter there are those whose skill and will transcend physical challenges. Boat and Bazz Kemba on the college level Murph beyond. This was true then and true today more frequently.

 

[Catsailor]

I know this is a month old but i just read this for the first time.

and... STFU. Ray Allen is the certified best shooter in NBA History. I get it you old guys like to talk about the Yankee Conference days and all that, but seriously drop this false equivalence stuff.

Ray Allen is the best shooter in UConn history, by a country mile. He is the best shooter in NBA history!! end of argument.

Maybe instead of telling people you don't agree with to STFU for what... voicing an opinion........... you should practice what you preach....... or rather, at the very least, become a little more informed as well as tolerant.

This is a discussion board so we are discussing. Age shouldn't matter, experience and knowledge should.

I doubt very much if you ever watched a UCONN Yankee Conference game or Wes B for that matter. It would have to have been in person to grasp how good he was.

Comparing players from different eras is next to impossible and interesting nevertheless.

For example: Sandy Kofax is widely credited with being one of the best pitchers of all time yet he last pitched in the 1960's. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sandy_Koufax
In today's game the athletes are bigger and stronger, come from more diverse pool, globally and The League has more teams.

Some argue the best talent today doesn't choose to play baseball (boring or more sports to choose from). Also that the number of teams rather than providing opportunity for more good players dilutes what talent there is.

Back to basketball....Well we all know how fantastic the bottom dwellers of the old BE were despite the "fact" the conference as a whole was obviously awesome by comparison.

My point, I know you have reading comprehension issues, is that just as you can find a diamond in the rough (Wes in YC) so too can you find garbage in the CASTLE known as the old Big East (Rutty et al or B1G, ACC for that matter).

Who is THE best shooter while at UCONN is arguable at best, and subjective depending on era/who you watched.

Furthermore it was not the topic of the thread.

The discussion SHOULD be based on UCONN career not professional career so I don't see Ray Rays life after UCONN as relevant, since you bring it up.

Who (plural) were the best while at UCONN is less so (arguable) and more on point to the topic.

All I'm stating is that Wes was a great shooter period. Nobody was trying to crown him THE guy. Again, just sayin' he was great and he was.

As Kentucky, Tar Heels, Duke and other "blues" have history.... so does UCONN.
Maybe not as lofty or star studded but also not as vapid of stars and accomplishments as some might think (pre BE).

I should think the younger "true" fans would embrace UCONN's entire history including the Yankee Conf. and earlier. Enjoy learning about players they may not have seen.

And again almost everything is arguable.
You needn't be quite such a know it all.

You sound young, ignorant, arrogant, closed minded and lack basic reading comprehension skills.

Just my opinion, from a not sooo old guy
Actually I feel sorry for you.

 

[methodology]

I know this is a month old but i just read this for the first time.

and... STFU. Ray Allen is the certified best shooter in NBA History. I get it you old guys like to talk about the Yankee Conference days and all that, but seriously drop this false equivalence stuff.

Ray Allen is the best shooter in UConn history, by a country mile. He is the best shooter in NBA history!! end of argument.

Ray is not the greatest shooter to ever live. He's one of the greatest but there have been better shooters. He's the greatest volume shooter.

Just to point out Brent Barry and Steve Nash both shoot 3 at a better percentage and have higher career eFG%.

Just because Pete rose has the most hits in baseball didn't make him the greatest hitter ever. Same goes for Barry bonds just cause he has the most HRs doesn't make him the greatest hitter either.

It's great Ray was a husky and became one of the greatest shooter in NBA history but don't discount and overlook other legitimate shooters

 

[bmayuc]

Ray is not the greatest shooter to ever live. He's one of the greatest but there have been better shooters. He's the greatest volume shooter.

Just to point out Brent Barry and Steve Nash both shoot 3 at a better percentage and have higher career eFG%.

Just because Pete rose has the most hits in baseball didn't make him the greatest hitter ever. Same goes for Barry bonds just cause he has the most HRs doesn't make him the greatest hitter either.

It's great Ray was a husky and became one of the greatest shooter in NBA history but don't discount and overlook other legitimate shooters

This doesn't make sense. No one metric makes anyone the best shooter, obviously. But being the single most profilic 3pt maker in NBA history, and being widely considered the best 3pt marksman of all time, and one of the best clutch shooters of his era DOES CARRY THE DAY when we are talking about a Yankee Conference player.

I am seriously having a hard time there are people who are debating this fact, let alone writing 1300 words about it like catfancy did above.

 

[HistoryMajor]

This doesn't make sense. No one metric makes anyone the best shooter, obviously. But being the single most profilic 3pt maker in NBA history, and being widely considered the best 3pt marksman of all time, and one of the best clutch shooters of his era DOES CARRY THE DAY when we are talking about a Yankee Conference player.

I am seriously having a hard time there are people who are debating this fact, let alone writing 1300 words about it like catfancy did above.

I saw both Wes and Ray in person. There was an aura about Wes that is hard to describe. He was a threat as soon as he crossed the half court line. All that said, I hope you can agree that they were BOTH great marksmen and we were privileged to have both of them on our team. Ray was clearly the better athlete. But as to who was the better 3 point shooter. We'll never know and does it really matter? They were both great.

 

[Catsailor]

This doesn't make sense. No one metric makes anyone the best shooter, obviously. But being the single most profilic 3pt maker in NBA history, and being widely considered the best 3pt marksman of all time, and one of the best clutch shooters of his era DOES CARRY THE DAY when we are talking about a Yankee Conference player.

I am seriously having a hard time there are people who are debating this fact, let alone writing 1300 words about it like catfancy did above.

Calling me names is a weak retort for pointing out your arrogance and other endearing qualities and it doesn't really negate that opinions are not facts!

And no one is disputing Ray was a great shooter at UCONN (also) and an even greater shooter as a pro.

Reggie Miller was pretty awesome as well and many talking heads still debate who was better.

I bet I'm not the first person to be underwhelmed by your distortion of fact vs opinion or charmed by your "profilic" Weltanschauung.

1300 and you counted. Well bless your heart

Guess I should have just used a four letter reply like you, STFU, but I'm not into over used acronyms when words and examples are far more effective and thought provoking.

My parting advice to you is to grow up and man up because obviously you are neither!

 

[CallMeBruce]

This doesn't make sense. No one metric makes anyone the best shooter, obviously. But being the single most profilic 3pt maker in NBA history, and being widely considered the best 3pt marksman of all time, and one of the best clutch shooters of his era DOES CARRY THE DAY when we are talking about a Yankee Conference player.

I am seriously having a hard time there are people who are debating this fact, let alone writing 1300 words about it like catfancy did above.

If old people didn't have the fact that they watched worse players before we were born, they'd have literally nothing interesting to talk about. Let him have this.