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UConn #13 in latest AP poll

Some other interesting observations:

--Of the 12 teams ahead of us, 3 are undefeated, 8 have only one loss, and only Va Tech has two losses. We, of course, have 3 losses.
Unless I have tallied them wrong, of the 12 teams ahead of us, UConn is the only school to have played more than 1 "true" away game against a ranked opponent. UConn has played true away games 3 times against ranked teams (2 of our losses). All of the 12 teams ahead of us, have 1 or zero such games. Iowa has lost at home to the single ranked team that visited. A few, impressively, have won such an away game; most have lost.
 
I don’t think this has anything to do with disrespecting UConn. UConn moved down because Virginia Tech was rewarded for beating NC State. It’s nothing to do with anything that UConn either did or didn’t do. NC State was not going to drop below UConn, so we went down one spot. All of the other teams above us won they’re games.
How would NC State drop below UConn when NC State dropped from 3rd to 6th and UConn was 12th...your explanation doesn't make sense. So we are now a 4 seed...I would think that UConn is going to be the best 4 seed there ever was. I don't have a problem with UConn's ranking because we have 3 losses no one above us has three losses. If you were to ask me if I thought Kansas State, Colorado State, or Texas was a better team than UConn I would be scratching my head.
 
Unless I have tallied them wrong, of the 12 teams ahead of us, UConn is the only school to have played more than 1 "true" away game against a ranked opponent. UConn has played true away games 3 times against ranked teams (2 of our losses). All of the 12 teams ahead of us, have 1 or zero such games. Iowa has lost at home to the single ranked team that visited. A few, impressively, have won such an away game; most have lost.
Interesting stat about no one above us having played more than 1 true road game vs. ranked opponent thus far. Here is the list of such games:
  • SC (won) at UNC
  • UCLA (won) at Ohio State
  • Baylor (won) at Texas
  • NC State (lost) at Virginia Tech
  • Stanford (lost) at Gonzaga (unranked at time of game, but ranked since)
  • USC (lost) at UCLA
  • Texas (won) at West Virginia
  • Virginia Tech (lost) at LSU
  • Kansas State (won) at Iowa
So unless I'm missing games somewhere, that would make a tally of 5-4.
 
Boneyarders, please, it is not disrespect that UConn is ranked where it is. Pollsters are giving other teams the chance to be ranked probably higher than they should be because it helps in reinforcing the argument about college WBB - and MBB - that ESPN and others seem to have latched onto. Turn on any of the talking heads about college basketball and you'll hear what the transfer portal has done, etc. in creating "parity". It's kinda what professional sports is like with players being traded from one team to another in the off season. It's also great for the media so why shouldn't they push it?

But that's not the important thing. The important thing is Geno, the coaches and the players themselves don't pay attention to rankings. UConn's focus right now is as it should be on the next game and the game after that and after that culminating in the BE regular season and championship. Of course, one or two wins in the upcoming games with ND and SC will certainly help to change things a lot.

Rankings right now are insignificant except maybe for setting betting lines and the prognostications of the prognosticators. UConn should simply concentrate on winning and the rest will take care of itself.
Curious...
1) "Pollsters are giving other teams the chance..." a) What are pollsters asked to do? b) Are pollsters coordinated enough to act (in any way other than according to their mandate) in some kind of unity to advance some parallel agenda?
2) "Geno... don't pay attention to rankings..." a) Of course not. b) Why do we? Unless we trust that those polled are giving educated and experienced opinions about the actual rank relationship among teams.
3) "... the rest will take care of itself." a) always does. b) let's watch the games and enjoy...
 
Interesting stat about no one above us having played more than 1 true road game vs. ranked opponent thus far. Here is the list of such games:
  • SC (won) at UNC
  • UCLA (won) at Ohio State
  • Baylor (won) at Texas
  • NC State (lost) at Virginia Tech
  • Stanford (lost) at Gonzaga (unranked at time of game, but ranked since)
  • USC (lost) at UCLA
  • Texas (won) at West Virginia
  • Virginia Tech (lost) at LSU
  • Kansas State (won) at Iowa
So unless I'm missing games somewhere, that would make a tally of 5-4.
Didn’t you just prove their point. None of these are examples of two true road games against ranked opponents.
 
Didn’t you just prove their point. None of these are examples of two true road games against ranked opponents.
I'm not disputing that part. I'm addressing the part where they said: “A few, impressively, have won such an away game; most have lost.”
 
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We dropped because of a quirky circumstance. The only team ahead of us that lost was way up at #3, undefeated NCSU, which beat us by double-digits early on. They dropped, but not as far as where we are. The team that edged them at the buzzer was just behind us last week and jumped over us. No other team ahead of us lost last week.

Some other interesting observations:

--Of the 12 teams ahead of us, 3 are undefeated, 8 have only one loss, and only Va Tech has two losses. We, of course, have 3 losses.

--4 previously undefeated teams lost last week. Only 3 remain: SC, UCLA, and Baylor.

--We have 487 points this week and had 469 last week. So, we moved up by 18 points, but Va. Tech moved up by 107 points and, thus, jumped over us. So, we moved up, as measured by points, but moved down, based on relative ranking.

--Creighton is still ranked, despite a 44-point loss to us. Marquette is also still ranked, despite their second loss.

--Shea's Vanderbilt team is #26.

--Maryland is back among the "others receiving votes" with 2 points. They are tied with Fairfield, who also has 2 points.

--Tennessee still has 0 points. No voter thinks they are a top-25 team. They are not in the top 40.

Here's a crazy stat: The 12 teams ranked ahead of UConn have a TOTAL of 10 losses between them. That's about to change:

Kansas St and TX play each other this weekend. VA Tech has a two game road swing to Duke and Fl St. USC is about to play UCLA, Utah, and Colorado in a row. Stanford's next two games are at Utah and at Colorado.

UConn's path back into the Top 10 of the polls isn't far off.
 
I'm not disputing that part. I'm addressing the part where they said: “A few, impressively, have won such an away game; most have lost.”
A got it, seems like a quibble over the word most but ok
 
How would NC State drop below UConn when NC State dropped from 3rd to 6th and UConn was 12th...your explanation doesn't make sense. So we are now a 4 seed...I would think that UConn is going to be the best 4 seed there ever was. I don't have a problem with UConn's ranking because we have 3 losses no one above us has three losses. If you were to ask me if I thought Kansas State, Colorado State, or Texas was a better team than UConn I would be scratching my head.
UConn is not a four seed. The AP has nothing, zilc, nada, zip, zero to do with seeding. NOTHING!

UConn is NET # four - a probable one Seed if that ranking holds.

I can’t understand why anybody gives a rip what the AP thinks.

WHO CARES?
 
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Here's a crazy stat: The 12 teams ranked ahead of UConn have a TOTAL of 10 losses between them. That's about to change:

Kansas St and TX play each other this weekend. VA Tech has a two game road swing to Duke and Fl St. USC is about to play UCLA, Utah, and Colorado in a row. Stanford's next two games are at Utah and at Colorado.

UConn's path back into the Top 10 of the polls isn't far off.

There are 2 ways for UConn to move up--(1) wins against ND and SC and (2) having the higher-ranked teams lose. UCLA, Stanford, USC, and Colorado will lose some games to each other. SC could lose to LSU or the reverse. K State, Texas, and Baylor will lose to each other. Iowa could lose to a good team in the conference. The top 12 teams have 10 losses combined. In time, that will increase to 15, 20, and 25.
 
UConn is not a four seed. The AP has nothing, zilc, nada, zip, zero to do with seeding. NOTHING!

UConn is NET # four - a probable one Seed if that ranking holds.

I can’t understand why anybody gives a rip what the AP thinks.

WHO CARES?
The Committee doesn’t seed directly based on NET either. UConn could very well end up a four seed if the tournament was tomorrow. To think polls don’t influence the opinion of committee members is naive imo.
 
The Committee doesn’t seed directly based on NET either. UConn could very well end up a four seed if the tournament was tomorrow. To think polls don’t influence the opinion of committee members is naive imo.
Minor influence? Sure. Direct influence? No

The committee can depart from the AP and no one would say anything. If they depart from the NET to the extent you suggest would have them investigated for fraud. 4th ranked to a four seed? No way. 2 seed? Yeah, it could happen
 
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Are people new to this poll thing?

When a team beats a higher-ranked team, they move up. It's quite predictable. It's nothing against the teams that get “jumped” after holding serve against unranked or lower-ranked teams. It doesn't mean Kansas State or UConn fell from the voters' good graces, and it's nothing to get our knickers in a twist over.

(I wonder if the K-State fans are this outraged?)
Actually, I heard all 3 of them were upset!:rolleyes:
 
I think that it's possible that UConn can climb in the AP but fall in the NET due to other teams increasing their SOS as their conference schedules commence.
 
The Committee doesn’t seed directly based on NET either. UConn could very well end up a four seed if the tournament was tomorrow. To think polls don’t influence the opinion of committee members is naive imo.
Do you have any evidence for your claim that the committee members (contrary to their stated criteria) are influenced by the polls?
 
Do you have any evidence for your claim that the committee members (contrary to their stated criteria) are influenced by the polls?
Well, they are human.
 
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Minor influence? Sure. Direct influence? No

The committee can depart from the AP and no one would say anything. If they depart from the NET to the extent you suggest would have them investigated for fraud. 4th ranked to a four seed? No way. 2 seed? Yeah, it could happen
Dropping a team 9 spots in the NET to their seed isn’t unheard of. UConn was 2 last year and was the ranked 7ths in the S Curve. LSU finished 3rd in NET last year and was given a 3 seed. A 4 seed wouldn’t be shocking to me considering the rankings and where people clearly have us based on the eye test.
 
Our ranking brought down by mostly west coast voters. However Emily (of the Hartford Courant) has us at #18??? WTF
I want to apologize to all boneyard members and guests for asking everyone to give Emily Adams a chance to demonstrate professional objectivity when writing about UConn wbb. Well, she had her chance and blew it. IMHO her ranking UConn as #18 is insulting to all Wbb fans and has an adverse affect on her objectivity/professionalism as a sports writer. Her rankings could be construed as nothing more than ranking the teams based solely on their number of losses.

Please don’t respond to the Hartford Courant objecting to her placement of UConn in the rankings. Their primary concern may be the total number of responses.
 
They are humans.
Yes, I was aware that the committee members are a subset of human beings.

But how does “they are human” constitute evidence of influence from a specific piece of input? Are their seeding decisions also influenced by the weather? The horoscopes? The price of oil? I mean, they are human after all.
 
Rankings just in general confuse me. How is Marquette still ranked after get demolished by UConn and then losing to an unranked team?
 
Rankings just in general confuse me. How is Marquette still ranked after get demolished by UConn and then losing to an unranked team?
I wouldn't have them ranked myself, but Marquette was #18 prior to playing UConn and thus had a bit of a “cushion” to play with, and multiple teams ranked below them and in the receiving votes category also lost during that period.

It's often just as much about what the teams in the vicinity do as it is about what Team X does.
 

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