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UCF might not be a huge draw...

huskymedic said:
It’s P5 too... UF football season ticket sales sag despite Dan Mullen's effort to sell Gators

>>In the age of high-definition television, social media and increasing creature comforts, fans have to weigh the benefits of the live, game-day experience. Some also would rather avoid the hassle of parking, the cost of concessions and the lack of comfort sitting in close quarters on metal bleachers.<<
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Does anyone know how much UConn charges students for season tickets? This article says the Florida students pay $140.
 
Exit 4 said:
You have comprehension issues? How did you possibly come to this conclusion from this post?
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Sorry. i forgot the Indians. Asians and Indians have ruined college football. Fix your humorometer.
 
Exit 4 said:
Ah, now you are getting it. And so that is my point about reaching out to other markets and marketing the product. Right now college sports predominately sells "frat environment" and that doesn't appeal to all. I'm not a marketing wizard, so I'll leave the problem solving to others. Its just my observation that there is no effort to appeal to other groups other than the usuals.
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woah


As I talk to ticket buying guys - not Frat demo - they are spending a ton on Giants tickets here in Westchester County. Maybe a family of 4 is going as well. That is at least 10 times the outlay per game as the Rent. Yup.

Do you have a family and young kids? When I was in that position and thinking Rent versus Metropolitan Life, the simple cheaper solution was always a good day. And there was plenty of ancillary things for the family. That has to be the Market. Affinity - either through alumns, students, State - and Affordable entertainment. And we know they have to win.

The pyrotechnics you might do at UNC probably do not get you much at the Margins.
 
Scrutiner said:
The tourists you're referencing may not be residents of the USA.

The photo at the start of the attached article shows Chinese tourists in a rural part of France. They're there because some scenes from a popular Chinese TV series were filmed in the lavender fields in that area and the boom in cheap travel alternatives now allows them to go there and take selfies. Maybe the Asians you saw like Western movies?

The article is long and provides some unbelievable statistics about how the tremendous boom in travel all over the world is changing, negatively, many of the world's most popular tourist destinations. One example was on Majorca where the local residents are so offended by the tourist takeover that some were throwing horse "apples" at tourist groups.

A sociologist quoted in the article suggested: "Mass tourism is a phenomenon of our post-materialistic society. Possessions are no longer a priority -- we just want to be entertained," he says.
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Not sure its worth belaboring, but in my 8 days I saw just two Asian tour buses. The vast majority were large Indian families and/or Chinese families in rental cars touring independent of any guide service. To me, most looked like people that will be returning to an American city for home and not taking a plane back to Asia. In other words, they looked like people that have been in the US for a while.
 
whaler11 said:
Not only are UConn crowds not diverse, they are ancient. Look at the median ages on tv broadcasts - they are through the roof. There are just not young people replacing the generation that is dying off.
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Old people like me, who went to every single game for 13 years, moved to warmer climates and there is nobody taking our place.
 
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Scrutiner said:
A sociologist quoted in the article suggested: "Mass tourism is a phenomenon of our post-materialistic society. Possessions are no longer a priority -- we just want to be entertained," he says.
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That...is scary.
 
Scrutiner said:
Does anyone know how much UConn charges students for season tickets? This article says the Florida students pay $140.
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I paid $30 bucks back in the Spring for my kid (and it came w/ a free t-shirt). Think it might be $42-ish now?
 
whaler11 said:
Not only are UConn crowds not diverse, they are ancient. Look at the median ages on tv broadcasts - they are through the roof. There are just not young people replacing the generation that is dying off.
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This is so true. I’m in my early 20s. Besides students there aren’t any young people buying single game or season tickets. It’s a huge problem.
 
SirHypeAlot said:
Has anyone seen any ticket sale numbers for Thursday yet? just curious. doesn't look like there are a ton on stubhub/seatgeek so maybe things look OK?
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I saw someone post that he/she heard it was sold out. Can you say the telephone game?
Agreed though. I’ve been watching the ticket agent sites and it seems like there are less and less available each day
 
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gampelcrazies said:
This is so true. I’m in my early 20s. Besides students there aren’t any young people buying single game or season tickets. It’s a huge problem.
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I used to beg people to go with me. They never wanted to go. They love yard goats games though.
 
State employees received an email this week - 4 free tickets for this game.
 
whaler11 said:
Not only are UConn crowds not diverse, they are ancient. Look at the median ages on tv broadcasts - they are through the roof. There are just not young people replacing the generation that is dying off.
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My guess is that we have about 3,000 people who actually write checks for season tickets every year and a good percentage of them do it because they always have and the money isn't a big deal for them. They ain't kids.
 
Butch said:
That...is scary.
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For someone who collects things that often have little or no value, to anyone other than him, that might seem scary. I much prefer to expose my children to as many different cultures and experiences as possible; rather than continue to collect toys and junk that will be used several times and then either discarded or donated.
 
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Hornet22 said:
I saw someone post that he/she heard it was sold out. Can you say the telephone game?
Agreed though. I’ve been watching the ticket agent sites and it seems like there are less and less available each day
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Just went to Uconnhuskies.com and saw lots of sections with HIGH or MEDIUM availability so there's likelihood there will be any kind of positive showing for a game against a ranked team on national TV.

The lower end zone (student section) is shown as sold out as are a few other sections, but it sure won't look good to recruits who like to play in an exciting environment.
 
Scrutiner said:
The lower end zone (student section) is shown as sold out as are a few other sections, but it sure won't look good to recruits who like to play in an exciting environment.
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Maybe charge realistic prices.
 
We're in a new paradigm that requires thinking outside the box. In fact they should turn the box inside out. The school should get ahead of the curve and start paying folks to come to the games. Fill the stadium, sell more concessions, enhance the atmosphere. You can thank me later.
 
Exit 4 said:
Ah, now you are getting it. And so that is my point about reaching out to other markets and marketing the product. Right now college sports predominately sells "frat environment" and that doesn't appeal to all. I'm not a marketing wizard, so I'll leave the problem solving to others. Its just my observation that there is no effort to appeal to other groups other than the usuals.
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From what I've observed, not selling the frat environment is a bigger problem than selling it. They have made too much of an effort to accomodate people beyond the targeted demographic (students), and as a result they've undermined the appeal of attending live events at all. How many stadiums now have luxury boxes or member areas where you can insulate yourself from the rest of the crowd? They've taken something that was attractive due in large part to discomfort and re-created your living room...and then they wonder why people aren't coming to the games.

The lack of diversity is a symptom of backwards thinking, and it's always been overly simplistic to think that minorities aren't coming to games because they don't identify with a party atmosphere or frat culture. They reject the bad parts about those things, sure, but the real reason they don't attend - as someone else mentioned - is because they don't think it's socially convenient to do so. It's not an aversion to fun, it's an aversion to exclusion. In other words, any marketing department that asks what they can do to get minorities to attend games is bound to miss the underlying issue, which is that everyone wants to have as much fun as the person that's having the most fun. You don't accomplish that by then making it less fun for everybody.

Older people are not immune to having a good time either. That doesn't mean they're going to act like 20-year-olds, but it means they'd probably prefer a more controlled version of whatever the students are experiencing. To the extent that the short-term corporate solution to these problems is always to pull back on what they think people can handle is counteracted, and then some, by depleting your customer base long-term. Not only are you puncturing the spirits of your most vocal fans, but you're also costing yourself the most valuable recruiting tool a business can have.

By no means do I want to rev a crowd up to the point that it's impeding the enjoyment of those who want to observe peacefully, but making the overall experience less desirable as a way to attract new people is almost certainly a losing philosophy. Better to communicate the appeals of inclusivity to your core base than make a zero sum game out of something where the high tide raises all boats.
 
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champs99and04 said:
From what I've observed, not selling the frat environment is a bigger problem than selling it. They have made too much of an effort to accomodate people beyond the targeted demographic (students), and as a result they've undermined the appeal of attending live events at all. How many stadiums now have luxury boxes or member areas where you can insulate yourself from the rest of the crowd? They've taken something that was attractive due in large part to discomfort and re-created your living room...and then they wonder why people aren't coming to the games.

The lack of diversity is a symptom of backwards thinking, and it's always been overly simplistic to think that minorities aren't coming to games because they don't identify with a party atmosphere or frat culture. They reject the bad parts about those things, sure, but the real reason they don't attend - as someone else mentioned - is because they don't think it's socially convenient to do so. It's not an aversion to fun, it's an aversion to exclusion. In other words, any marketing department that asks what they can do to get minorities to attend games is bound to miss the underlying issue, which is that everyone wants to have as much fun as the person that's having the most fun. You don't accomplish that by then making it less fun for everybody.
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I don't have strong feelings about the marketing angles or the outreach. Again, I'll leave that to others. I will stand by my observation that the actual attendance at college football stadiums is not as diverse as our society (by a wide margin) and so I conclude the marketing is missing out on an opportunity.
 
WingU-Conn said:
For someone who collects things that often have little or no value, to anyone other than him, that might seem scary. I much prefer to expose my children to as many different cultures and experiences as possible; rather than continue to collect toys and junk that will be used several times and then either discarded or donated.
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I am not thinking of Garbage Pail Kids cards. I am thinking of actual savings.

Not everyone collects junk, either.
 
ConnHuskBask said:
The live experience just ain't what it used to be.

Went to Yankee Stadium last night, got in line to get in around 645 and didn't get to my seats until 720 due to security.

I understand the need for security, especially in NY, but tweedle dee and tweedle dum poking a flashlight for 10 minutes through a mother's diaper bag accomplishes what?
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I've been lucky with walking around the side of the stadium to Gate 8 lately. Usually just a few minute line, unlike the front Gate 4 and 6.
 
Mr. Conehead said:
I've been lucky with walking around the side of the stadium to Gate 8 lately. Usually just a few minute line, unlike the front Gate 4 and 6.
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Thanks, I'll check that out if I go before the seasons over. I've been going to Yankees games for years and had never seen anything like it last night trying to get in at Gate 4.
 
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