Tyrese Martin NBA Prospect
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No. He isn't a 45% 3 point shooter--he had a hot streak and it's on very small sample size, and he can't shoot off the dribble. He's definitely better than he was at URI... he's probably more like a 35-40% shooter. Good, but not exceptional. He may get a workout or a shot in the g-league, but he isn't gonna be a staple in the league with his skill set at 6'6 215 IMO.
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There’s always a need for a guy who can defend 1-4, hit open shots, and is a tough expletive. Parlay that with like one or two big tournament performances and you never know
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He is kind of a classic tweener, Too small for the three and lacking guard skills. The NBA is a cruel place. But never day never.
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You’re right. He’s the type that could be on a summer league team or a g league roster but is better off making good money for a decade overseas. He is strong and can defend but he is not a good finisher, doesn’t have a variety of moves, and while he jumps high in space he is not athletic in traffic at all.
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No. Not even close. He can probably make some medium to high leagues overseas and make a few million before he's age 30 if he's willing to play in those leagues and some of those cities.
But he's not collecting an NBA paycheck.
But he's not collecting an NBA paycheck.
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Very good, tough player who will definitely have a solid career overseas. I’ve been really impressed by his man defense lately though.
While I agree with most of your points- for the year he is 28/62 from 3 for 45%. Pretty decent sample size to me. He is much improved in that area over last year. I agree with most that he is probably better suited for an overseas career.
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TM would have to improve in a number of areas to become an NBA draft pick. But whenever a poster says that a player --like TM-- who is not currently NBA material, may become an NBA prospect, that poster is immediately informed that is impossible for that Husky player to improve enough to ever sniff the NBA.
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I would love to see it as I would for most every UConn player within reason. However, there are many Martins out there who, because of size or certain lack of skills, are very good college D1 players yet just aren't up to NBA standards. I wish him the best but I think his money making potential is highest overseas.
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Tyrese will definitely play in Summer League and the G-League (assuming that's what he wants). Hopefully he can parlay that into a cup of coffee in the league, try to earn a chance to stick around. It will take a lot of hard work and some luck as well. Hope it happens for him.
This is also a guy who worked in a factory during COVID to help support his family, so wouldn't be surprised if he takes Overseas money over the G-League route. Either way gonna have a great career making money playing basketball.
This is also a guy who worked in a factory during COVID to help support his family, so wouldn't be surprised if he takes Overseas money over the G-League route. Either way gonna have a great career making money playing basketball.
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If he was better at free throws he could get more people to believe he’s a real shooter. 66% for his career and this year’s number is in line. That being said he’s been so good this year, I think in many cases he needs to be our closer
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He can but a lot of times fades away and doesn't go up strong. He definitely one of 2 players on our team who shoot off the dribble. The other is Cole. The problem is both are not real effective when doing so unless they get on a hot streak. Though I don't see him as NBA talent either. Maybe he can catch on a camp and impress and be a player of all trades. That would be the only way he would stick.
Hes at 45% but just because you think so we should just consider him 35-40%? SMH. Why track stats?
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Agree. He's worth seeing in a workout and summer league. I think we underestimate his hops. He's a great rebounder for a reason. His biggest improvement this year isn't shooting, it's ball handling. He's bringing the ball up the court, especially on the break and doing a good job passing as well. I can see him getting a G league spot.
Somebody in this thread called him a tweener. The modern NBA loves nothing quite as much as it loves tweeners. His size/strength is almost ideal.
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Needs work on his ball handling. Not sure he can get away with driving the lane and putting up his crazy layups.
His athletic ability and hops will get him a look.
I think he will be a G player at best.
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Do you understand what sample size is? He started last season at 45% too and ended up with poor streak to end the season at 32%. He shot 31% and 32% his first two season as well. He isn't a 45% 3 point shooter because his career percentage is 34%.
He's obviously improved as a shooter, but if you seriously think an NBA GM is seriously going to consider this kid a 45% 3pt shooter when they look at prospects, you're delusional.
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The few people saying Tyrese isn't a good athlete are delusional. The kid is strong as an ox, faster than most players in the big east, and has tons of hops. He isn't a literal human freak of nature like Andre, but he's probably the second or third best pure athlete on our team full of unbelievable athletes.
I think he gets g-league or summer league shot and a long career overseas. He'll make a decent living at this if he wants to.
Agree on his ballhandling. With Gaffney so inconsistent, his steadiness breaking the press is one of the few things helping RJ keep his sanity at this point, I'd think.
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Yeah, I just don't quite see it.
He's a little too small to be a stretch-4 3-and-D kind of guy (and not quite pure enough a shooter) and he doesn't quite have the handle and explosiveness to fit as a guard.
What's his comp? Like a Draymond Green without the passing ability?
He's a little too small to be a stretch-4 3-and-D kind of guy (and not quite pure enough a shooter) and he doesn't quite have the handle and explosiveness to fit as a guard.
What's his comp? Like a Draymond Green without the passing ability?
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Someone in another thread mentioned Jae Crowder which I kinda like. Tyrese is quite a bit leaner though, less able to play the 4.
I've watched a lot of Hornets basketball this year so I'll throw out Cody Martin, who has turned himself into a good NBA player. Versatile 3&D guard at 6'5" who can guard multiple positions, shoots three's, and create some offense. Same last name too! Cody Martin is certainly a better playmaker at this point though. His twin brother is having a great season in Miami as well.
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6-4, can defend and shoot as well as attack basket. He strikes me as someone who is a second round pick who, in workouts if he shoots it well, could sneak into the back half.
One thing I think you guys forget is that after the top 10, the league is looking for either high potential stars (young players with high ceilings) or rotational players.
Comes down to who can he defend. Martin can defend 1,2,3 and if he can shoot and finish at the basket...what else do you want off the bench?
He's a good physical athlete, can shoot 3s, and is rugged and can rebound and finish inside.
It's weird, I know, but a guy like Martin can fit on an NBA team seamlessly. Only issue is there are a lot of guys like Martin vying for the same spots. But, if he is a 40% 3-point shooter I can guarantee you he will get a spot with his physical profile.
Here is why people get mad at NBA. A guy like Grant Williams with Boston was a low ceiling late first round pick and is now a top 7 rotation player shooting over 40% from 3 with top defense.
Knock on martin? FT% is only 67%. He has been a career 32% shooter from 3 until this year. His FT% has not gone up, but his 3-point shooting has.
That's gonna be a red flag that his shooting is not as good as the numbers. He 's going to have to shoot the lights out in workouts,
Then, there are college stars like Luka Garza who go undrafted and are barely in league as 2-way players. It's about who you can defend at that level.
Cody Martin.
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I’ve watched just about every Hornets game being in the Charlotte market I’m not sure he’s a good comp. Cody is a better athlete than Tyrese, has better hips. He’s got a better motor(Cody’s motor is elite-elite) and is more of a playmaker as well. I would bet he’s a few inches longer too. I think Jarrod Cumberland is a better comp. I foresee Martin getting a shot at the league via the G league but ultimately ends up as a good overseas guy.
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Yeah, that seems fair! Just goes to show how hard it is to compare college players (even great ones) to NBA guys.
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