Tyrese Martin NBA Prospect

[JohnFSilver]

You won't find a bigger Tyrese Martin fan than me, but I never thought of him as an NBA level talent. Seems to fit the mold of a good overseas player. I hope I'm wrong though!

6-4, can defend and shoot as well as attack basket. He strikes me as someone who is a second round pick who, in workouts if he shoots it well, could sneak into the back half.

One thing I think you guys forget is that after the top 10, the league is looking for either high potential stars (young players with high ceilings) or rotational players.

Comes down to who can he defend. Martin can defend 1,2,3 and if he can shoot and finish at the basket...what else do you want off the bench?

He's a good physical athlete, can shoot 3s, and is rugged and can rebound and finish inside.

It's weird, I know, but a guy like Martin can fit on an NBA team seamlessly. Only issue is there are a lot of guys like Martin vying for the same spots. But, if he is a 40% 3-point shooter I can guarantee you he will get a spot with his physical profile.

Here is why people get mad at NBA. A guy like Grant Williams with Boston was a low ceiling late first round pick and is now a top 7 rotation player shooting over 40% from 3 with top defense.

Knock on martin? FT% is only 67%. He has been a career 32% shooter from 3 until this year. His FT% has not gone up, but his 3-point shooting has.

That's gonna be a red flag that his shooting is not as good as the numbers. He 's going to have to shoot the lights out in workouts,

Then, there are college stars like Luka Garza who go undrafted and are barely in league as 2-way players. It's about who you can defend at that level.

 

[auror]

What's his comp? Like a Draymond Green without the passing ability?

Cody Martin.

 

[HuskyFich]

This is not meant to be a shot at Rese, but NBA players make more than 30% of their layups.

 

[UconnU]

Someone in another thread mentioned Jae Crowder which I kinda like. Tyrese is quite a bit leaner though, less able to play the 4.

I've watched a lot of Hornets basketball this year so I'll throw out Cody Martin, who has turned himself into a good NBA player. Versatile 3&D guard at 6'5" who can guard multiple positions, shoots three's, and create some offense. Same last name too! Cody Martin is certainly a better playmaker at this point though. His twin brother is having a great season in Miami as well.

I’ve watched just about every Hornets game being in the Charlotte market I’m not sure he’s a good comp. Cody is a better athlete than Tyrese, has better hips. He’s got a better motor(Cody’s motor is elite-elite) and is more of a playmaker as well. I would bet he’s a few inches longer too. I think Jarrod Cumberland is a better comp. I foresee Martin getting a shot at the league via the G league but ultimately ends up as a good overseas guy.

 

[awfuldan]

I’ve watched just about every Hornets game being in the Charlotte market I’m not sure he’s a good comp. Cody is a better athlete than Tyrese, has better hips. He’s got a better motor(Cody’s motor is elite-elite) and is more of a playmaker as well. I would bet he’s a few inches longer too. I think Jarrod Cumberland is a better comp. I foresee Martin getting a shot at the league via the G league but ultimately ends up as a good overseas guy.

Yeah, that seems fair! Just goes to show how hard it is to compare college players (even great ones) to NBA guys.

 

[Huskyforlife]

Tyrese is a high level starting wing in college and I hope he uses his extra year of eligibility. I don’t want this to come off as a slight against him.

But I really don’t think his defense is good enough for a 3nD guy. He knows where to be and is solid at this level, but high end college guys have their way with him frequently. He’s a distant 4th I’d argue defensively on his own team. Others have highlighted the obvious shooting concerns, finishing issues, and lack of height for a stretch 4. I don’t think he has a serious shot at making the NBA after this season.

With that being said, would it shock me if he hung on the butt of a summer league roster this year? No, but I think people overestimate how much that means for your chances of making the league.

 

[Huskyforlife]

My sleeper NBA guy on this team is actually Whaley. Sam Veccine, a connected NBA Draft writer for the Athletic, posted a tweet awhile back showing off Whaleys effectiveness on defense. Like others pointed out, late in the draft or UDFA teams are looking for guys who can potentially fill out their rotation, and Whaley fits the profile as a defensive specialist with some amount of shooting potential(mechanics aren’t terrible).

Not saying he’ll make it for sure, but give me the athletic 6’9 defensive specialist for better odds of making it as a role player.

 

[navery12]

This is not meant to be a shot at Rese, but NBA players make more than 30% of their layups.

Then good news for Tyrese, because he's making double that and shooting 59.8% at the rim this year

 

[Chin Diesel]

6-4, can defend and shoot as well as attack basket. He strikes me as someone who is a second round pick who, in workouts if he shoots it well, could sneak into the back half.

Comes down to who can he defend. Martin can defend 1,2,3 and if he can shoot and finish at the basket...what else do you want off the bench?

He's a good physical athlete, can shoot 3s, and is rugged and can rebound and finish inside.

Martin is horrible finishing near the basket, especially if he has to do any contortions or adjustments near the rim.

He is effective on straight line drives to the basket but he is nowhere good at attacking the rim. He absolutely cannot put the ball on the floor and break down his defender.

He gets less effective against taller, leaner, NBA bodies as well.

He does good in college because he can still overpower some of the players and he is a few weeks away from being 23.

I appreciate what he does for the team and wish him well, but playing in the NBA isn't in his future.

 

[JohnFSilver]

My sleeper NBA guy on this team is actually Whaley. Sam Veccine, a connected NBA Draft writer for the Athletic, posted a tweet awhile back showing off Whaleys effectiveness on defense. Like others pointed out, late in the draft or UDFA teams are looking for guys who can potentially fill out their rotation, and Whaley fits the profile as a defensive specialist with some amount of shooting potential(mechanics aren’t terrible).

Not saying he’ll make it for sure, but give me the athletic 6’9 defensive specialist for better odds of making it as a role player.

this is accurate. Going to need to show he can shoot, but if he can defend the 4 and 5, maybe he can be a two way early on in career.

 

[JohnFSilver]

Martin is horrible finishing near the basket, especially if he has to do any contortions or adjustments near the rim.

He is effective on straight line drives to the basket but he is nowhere good at attacking the rim. He absolutely cannot put the ball on the floor and break down his defender.

He gets less effective against taller, leaner, NBA bodies as well.

He does good in college because he can still overpower some of the players and he is a few weeks away from being 23.

I appreciate what he does for the team and wish him well, but playing in the NBA isn't in his future.

Probably not, but he is gonna get a look. I think his finishing is better than you guys are saying.

what is he at the rim this year.

 

[USNavyDog]

He’s having a great season and playing very consistently on the offensive and defensive end. He shoots about 45% from 3, has good size and strength- could he potentially play himself into a role in the NBA?

Tyrese reminds me a lot if Donny Marshall, same size, same position, similar playing style, good rebounder, decent 3 point shooter, etc.

 

[3rdbass]

Martin is horrible finishing near the basket, especially if he has to do any contortions or adjustments near the rim.

He is effective on straight line drives to the basket but he is nowhere good at attacking the rim. He absolutely cannot put the ball on the floor and break down his defender.

He gets less effective against taller, leaner, NBA bodies as well.

He does good in college because he can still overpower some of the players and he is a few weeks away from being 23.

I appreciate what he does for the team and wish him well, but playing in the NBA isn't in his future.

That isn't true he has done it both last year and this year. The problem is he normally goes with an off balance shot at the rim and can't really pass well enough when he does beat his man. He has to be able to become tougher player when going to the basket. He plays kind of soft when driving nomally finishing it off with a fadeaway or some silly scoop shot. Just go up strong big man.

 

[That Guy]

Stop.

 

[RichCTBB]

This is also a guy who worked in a factory during COVID to help support his family, so wouldn't be surprised if he takes Overseas money over the G-League route. Either way gonna have a great career making money playing basketball.

I just read the Courant article about him from November. What a stand-up guy. Sign me up for the TM fan club.

 

[Kenny11]

The few people saying Tyrese isn't a good athlete are delusional. The kid is strong as an ox, faster than most players in the big east, and has tons of hops. He isn't a literal human freak of nature like Andre, but he's probably the second or third best pure athlete on our team full of unbelievable athletes.

I think he gets g-league or summer league shot and a long career overseas. He'll make a decent living at this if he wants to.

Agree on his ballhandling. With Gaffney so inconsistent, his steadiness breaking the press is one of the few things helping RJ keep his sanity at this point, I'd think.

He’s a very good athlete but it confuses me how he can’t jump well in traffic when he’s trying to get a shot off near the hoop. Sometimes he’s literally an inch off the ground on these layup attempts

 

[Ewekon]

I like and respect the guy, the player, teammate.
Program has to get beyond such a player as representative of a starter with NBA chances.

 

[BigErnMcCracken]

I like and respect the guy, the player, teammate.
Program has to get beyond such a player as representative of a starter with NBA chances.

They put someone in the lottery last season.

 

[Brochacho]

While I agree with most of your points- for the year he is 28/62 from 3 for 45%. Pretty decent sample size to me. He is much improved in that area over last year. I agree with most that he is probably better suited for an overseas career.

Tyrese Martin was 15/33 for 45% on February 16th last year then he had the craziest regression to the mean I've ever seen play out in college hoops to end the year. He's doing it on a higher volume this year which is great - really hoping he can sustain it this year.

 

[elmcityboy]

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Yeah, that seems fair! Just goes to show how hard it is to compare college players (even great ones) to NBA guys.

how about jae'sean tate for a tyrese comp? his stats at ohio state are actually pretty comparable -- martin is maybe even a better shooter.

tate went undrafted, played internationally, then found a home on the houston rockets as a role player.

 

[Ewekon]

They put someone in the lottery last season.

I'm guilty of a little greed....but you're right. Matters not how Boat does...he went in the money round. Hope people will know that as/if he makes the strides,I/ we hope he will. And think UConn.

 

[ArizonaHsky]

Not even close to play in NBA. He misses a lot of layups.

 

[HuskyInfinity]

Not saying it will for sure make a difference in his inability to make close shots but NBA spacing I think is something you might have to take a look at when envisioning him in the future. Regardless things have to break right for him I think in order to latch on up there.