Tyler Phommachanh

[superjohn]

I wouldn't consider pass to Rose a long pass, which amplifies my point. He has to get so much better on short to medium range passes.

Sure Kyler Murray and Russell Wilson were small but they were both high level MLB prospects who have cannons for arms.

That was a long pass.

 

[superjohn]

Even on the long pass to Rose, Jay had to come back and catch it almost like a punt. Would love to see him make that play in stride but better off that than missing him by 40 yards

He did what you're supposed to do when someone is so wide open, he got it out there to him.

 

[noeynox]

He did what you're supposed to do when someone is so wide open, he got it out there to him.

And not overthrow the guy.

 

[hardcorehusky]

Even on the long pass to Rose, Jay had to come back and catch it almost like a punt. Would love to see him make that play in stride but better off that than missing him by 40 yards

And this is why Nate Carter was backpeddling when he was wide open and just couldn't catch up. Normally the receiver can catch in stride, slow down but in stride.

 

[DoctorWho85]

I noticed that if TylerP sets his feet, he can make some nice throws. Unfortunately, the line causes him to get happy feet and I think that's what's causing a lot of his mistakes.

 

[Chief00]

I noticed that if TylerP sets his feet, he can make some nice throws. Unfortunately, the line causes him to get happy feet and I think that's what's causing a lot of his mistakes.

Exactly, some of the throws he’s making it’s remarkable he even gets the ball off. As Chief has said we need 3-4 OL in the portal.
The other thing is he needs to have some familiarity with his receivers and them in him.
Let’s not forget, what has just happened. The head coach being fired, effectively a new OC , someone said we started 7 freshman, etc. Tyler himself has gone from a freshman scout team to a starter. Patience.
If you talk to Tyler he views himself, rightly ir wrongly. as more of a pocket or organized rollout QB, yet out of necessity he’s been forced into making plays with his feet.

 

[huskymedic]

If you talk to Tyler he views himself, rightly ir wrongly. as more of a pocket or organized rollout QB, yet out of necessity he’s been forced into making plays with his feet.

Tyler has always believed himself to be a true dual threat QB on the field

These are his words before he even stepped on campus.

“I can make all the throws; I just have to work on making them better,” Phommachanh said. “What I bring to the table is energy, leadership and my ability to move the ball without throwing it. I think that’s important in today’s game, to have a [quarterback] who can move around and make plays with his feet. When I get there, my play and my style of play and my attitude, I think will show for itself. It will help me get on the field, I think.”

He just needs more game speed seasoning @ this level and continued physical conditioning to be able to take the next steps.

 

[UConnRock]

Edsall’s gameplan was to use the redshirt whenever possible. He knows talent, but never thought his job would be in jeopardy. His plan was to redshirt as many freshman as possible and Tyler was caught in that plan

 

[BigTenFan]

In the age of the 24/7 transfer portal - play the best players should on the field.

If a player develops to an NFL caliber they are gone in 3/4 years. Or player/family/agent thinks it is best to spend year 4/5 playing for a P5 team roster. Or there is an injury. Or there is a superior future recruit.

Concern about 2025 is not high on the list of concerns for UConn Husky Football.

Couldn't agree more.
The days of developing talent for 4 years is over. If an athlete has a top skillset- they will either declare for draft or enter portal to play for a higher profile team. This is the the reality of college athletics

 

[CONN78SEJ]

Nate Carter, Keelan Marion, Aaron Turner. All freshman. Brian Brewton as well? Then you have Matt Drayton and Cam Ross hopefully back next year? That's a nice nucleus of young offensive guys. The next coach's 1st job has to be to recruit these guys to buy into what he wants to do.

What happened to Burns? Didn’t see him play.

 

[Life Is Good]

Edsall’s gameplan was to use the redshirt whenever possible. He knows talent, but never thought his job would be in jeopardy. His plan was to redshirt as many freshman as possible and Tyler was caught in that plan

What about JZ?

 

[Buffett10]

I think we have a star in the making!! I think TP got the wheels. I might see if I can find the game on YT. I'm just hoping that no one will transfer out after the season, I think if a coach will talk the them, maybe they'll stick around and help rebuild UConn. I believe this season is NOT lost...

plenty will transfer out.

 

[ktuck911]

What happened to Burns? Didn’t see him play.

He was out there on tge return team. In on a few offensive plays too.

 

[Chief00]

Tyler has always believed himself to be a true dual threat QB on the field

These are his words before he even stepped on campus.

“I can make all the throws; I just have to work on making them better,” Phommachanh said. “What I bring to the table is energy, leadership and my ability to move the ball without throwing it. I think that’s important in today’s game, to have a [quarterback] who can move around and make plays with his feet. When I get there, my play and my style of play and my attitude, I think will show for itself. It will help me get on the field, I think.”

He just needs more game speed seasoning @ this level and continued physical conditioning to be able to take the next steps.

As you stated, these comments were made before getting to UConn. I agree about his ability to make throws and Tyler just needs to fine tune the throws better. My sense is he now recognizes he will “move around” or roll out to create time for his throws. Sure there will be run/pass option rollouts and runs opposite of motion activity misdirection. And with his OL, some runs to escape pressure. But, you will see less of him taking the ball from center and running.
What change since before college is the recognition he needs to be smart about things. He’s a tough, confident guy but isn’t a big dude. The coaches are trying to emphasize that and instruct him to slide. Last game on one play you saw him take that instruction too literarily and he slide before he could have likely made a first down if he kept running. So that’s a work in progress for Tyler at game speed to know situationally when to extend the run effort and when to slide. I do know he doesn’t want to be stereo-typed as one of those college QB’s who can run not pass. Some dual threat sure but he wants his passing to be respected.

 

[Nostical]

Even on the long pass to Rose, Jay had to come back and catch it almost like a punt.

And this is why Nate Carter was backpeddling when he was wide open and just couldn't catch up.

The receivers seem to be expecting the ball to be short, which must be showing up in practice—especially when TP is throwing on the move. It also helps explain the number of back shoulder catches on sideline and wheel routes. Bottom line, as long as our guys know TP’s tendencies better than Vandy’s defense does after watching our game film, we can live to fight another day and hope that more practice can get us closer to perfect.

 

[CL82]

What about JZ?

His album dropped?

 

[CTMike]

Some dual threat sure but he wants his passing to be respected.

He’s going to need to develop and gain strength year over year. He has a freshman arm, which is to be expected at this point.

 

[Palatine]

TP is better than JZ that much is clear. But TP has a long way to go. He has yet to throw over 50% in a game. He is in inaccurate and missed open receivers against Wyoming which could have change the outcome and he threw a game killing pick.

Our QB situation has basically gone from from hopeless to hopeful, and that's a lot.

 

[metsfan2323]

TP is better than JZ that much is clear. But TP has a long way to go. He has yet to throw over 50% in a game. He is in inaccurate and missed open receivers against Wyoming which could have change the outcome and he threw a game killing pick.

Our QB situation has basically gone from from hopeless to hopeful, and that's a lot.

The biggest effect TP has had is in the running game. He has to be accounted for so we now have space to run. He also extends passing plays with his agility/mobility.

I think TP should run more. He did a great job of avoiding the big hit on Saturday which was a big improvement over the previous week when he took some big shots.

 

[uconndogs]

The biggest effect TP has had is in the running game. He has to be accounted for and we now have space to run. He also extends passing plays with his agility/mobility.

I think TP should run more. He did a great job of avoiding the big hit on Saturday which was a big improvement over the previous week when he took some big shots.

I think this is a good overall assessment. He's not a big guy so I don't know how much running he can do before he gets bang up, but he has to be accounted for in the running game and that can go a long way in college football.

I don't see a big arm, but I don't think that's a big deal. He's pretty poised out there, especially relative to his age and experience. We might have a good one on our hands if he can stay healthy and continue to develop.

 

[ClifSpliffy]

scramblers who can also go forward have a tendency to freeze the defense, especially the lb's. it's all we got, so let's run with that. i expect moar than a few times where he goes head down, then stops before the los, and voila!- an 18 yard dink play as the lb's bite on the fake.

 

[Dream Jobbed 2.0]

scramblers who can also go forward have a tendency to freeze the defense, especially the lb's. it's all we got, so let's run with that. i expect moar than a few times where he goes head down, then stops before the los, and voila!- an 18 yard dink play as the lb's bite on the fake.

This is what I would have drawn up on the 2 pt conversion or even the earlier downs from inside the 5.
Those fades never stood a chance, their corners are bigger than our WR (which will often be the case). When you can’t rely on size, speed, and skill you need to rely on misdirection and deception. I think Mazzone is helping Guiffre and Moyseenko realize this and adapt. Could see more intricacies added in as time goes on

 

[Pudge]

a few things ...

Noel Mazzone is a innovator on that "pistol" thing going back decades. So, we are a little tweak away from where we were a few weeks ago. Then. He did not underthrow Rose on that TD: Mazzone's stamp on the game has been getting a receiver in space where he could run. The razzledazzle design left Rose uncovered. Phommachanh delivered as designed. NO. He has not shown arm strength or touch on the basics that will make the offense far more potent; however, those simple things can be taught. Throwing a simple out needs to have more zip and neither Giufre nor Moyseenko seems to have emphasized certain fundamentals = TP is learning. Carter looked far better. That is going to make the Line play look so much better; he doesn't need much. But with TP having success, the cuts and quickness through the hole will gash our RB for 4-9 yards regularly. Maurisseau and Brewton add a lot; and I bet Giufre had no idea how to use them.

This is us. Let's hope we have a little luck on who gets to line up week to week. Wish we had Cam Ross today

 

[ShakyTheMohel]

At the risk of summoning @Guapo....TP would actually be good at running the triple option.

 

[Life Is Good]

I think this is a good overall assessment. He's not a big guy so I don't know how much running he can do before he gets bang up, but he has to be accounted for in the running game and that can go a long way in college football.

I don't see a big arm, but I don't think that's a big deal. He's pretty poised out there, especially relative to his age and experience. We might have a good one on our hands if he can stay healthy and continue to develop.

Which is what I said in an earlier post. Why did they not design plays for a duel threat QB? He threw 39 times and 3 or 4 designed run plays. That’s more of an Air Raid offense.

 

[JustbrewitMan]

There's so much to like and loads of potential for this kid.

Yes, he's been erratic at times (typical freshman), but here are some great throws & plays from crunch time in 2nd half that show he's got high-level abilities. I'm not going to highlight the 4-5 meh/sketchy throws, but we all know those are the things he ca/will start to eliminate:


- 3rd quarter, 3rd & 6 from deep in own territory just after our D made the 3rd-quarter INT. Crucial to move the chains here. Delivered pass to receiver on the money and in-stride:

- 2nd & 9, two plays later. Scrambles, keeps play alive, fires a laser to Rose where only he can catch it. Pass incomplete but well-executed: Wyoming vs. UConn LIVE HD | College Football LIVE | NCAAF Week 4 | September 25, 2021

-Next play, 3rd & 9. Patient in the pocket and delivers a 22-yd strike right on target to move the chains: Wyoming vs. UConn LIVE HD | College Football LIVE | NCAAF Week 4 | September 25, 2021

-A few plays later in the drive. This is a sack for an 8-10yd loss if JZ or SK are QB here: Wyoming vs. UConn LIVE HD | College Football LIVE | NCAAF Week 4 | September 25, 2021

-Final drive of the game:

-3rd play after his INT throw, nice delivery on a crossing route: Wyoming vs. UConn LIVE HD | College Football LIVE | NCAAF Week 4 | September 25, 2021

-Next play...here's one where he needed to deliver the ball better to his receiver. Still, a catchable ball that the receiver needs to catch and secure on 3rd down (he was past the 1st down marker, need to catch the ball 1st, worry about possibly running 2nd): Wyoming vs. UConn LIVE HD | College Football LIVE | NCAAF Week 4 | September 25, 2021

-Next play, 4th & 9 (following brutal false start penalty), bailed out by a BAD pass interference play. We'll take it. Wyoming coaches had to be losing their minds LOL Wyoming vs. UConn LIVE HD | College Football LIVE | NCAAF Week 4 | September 25, 2021

-2nd down after a great scamper on 3rd & 5 to move the chains. OOPS! Missed his read on a wide open receiver. Experience will prevent this from happening again. BTW, how bad is Wyoming's coverage here to allow 2 receivers to get so behind coverage??? Wyoming vs. UConn LIVE HD | College Football LIVE | NCAAF Week 4 | September 25, 2021

-Next play, a really nice throw, kept receiver in stride, threw a catchable ball to allow for an easy PI call. Wyoming vs. UConn LIVE HD | College Football LIVE | NCAAF Week 4 | September 25, 2021

-1st & goal. Nice floater to the TE. Great throw. Only offense can catch this ball. A slightly more athletic TE makes this grab for a TD. I think he only got 2" off the ground on his jump, unfortunately (and still got fingers on it): Wyoming vs. UConn LIVE HD | College Football LIVE | NCAAF Week 4 | September 25, 2021



(P.S. - Would be remiss if I didn't shout out to Nate Carter. So many huge runs on our possessions in the 2nd half!!!)

 

[Life Is Good]

There's so much to like and loads of potential for this kid.

Yes, he's been erratic at times (typical freshman), but here are some great throws & plays from crunch time in 2nd half that show he's got high-level abilities. I'm not going to highlight the 4-5 meh/sketchy throws, but we all know those are the things he ca/will start to eliminate:


- 3rd quarter, 3rd & 6 from deep in own territory just after our D made the 3rd-quarter INT. Crucial to move the chains here. Delivered pass to receiver on the money and in-stride:

- 2nd & 9, two plays later. Scrambles, keeps play alive, fires a laser to Rose where only he can catch it. Pass incomplete but well-executed: Wyoming vs. UConn LIVE HD | College Football LIVE | NCAAF Week 4 | September 25, 2021

-Next play, 3rd & 9. Patient in the pocket and delivers a 22-yd strike right on target to move the chains: Wyoming vs. UConn LIVE HD | College Football LIVE | NCAAF Week 4 | September 25, 2021

-A few plays later in the drive. This is a sack for an 8-10yd loss if JZ or SK are QB here: Wyoming vs. UConn LIVE HD | College Football LIVE | NCAAF Week 4 | September 25, 2021

-Final drive of the game:

-3rd play after his INT throw, nice delivery on a crossing route: Wyoming vs. UConn LIVE HD | College Football LIVE | NCAAF Week 4 | September 25, 2021

-Next play...here's one where he needed to deliver the ball better to his receiver. Still, a catchable ball that the receiver needs to catch and secure on 3rd down (he was past the 1st down marker, need to catch the ball 1st, worry about possibly running 2nd): Wyoming vs. UConn LIVE HD | College Football LIVE | NCAAF Week 4 | September 25, 2021

-Next play, 4th & 9 (following brutal false start penalty), bailed out by a BAD pass interference play. We'll take it. Wyoming coaches had to be losing their minds LOL Wyoming vs. UConn LIVE HD | College Football LIVE | NCAAF Week 4 | September 25, 2021

-2nd down after a great scamper on 3rd & 5 to move the chains. OOPS! Missed his read on a wide open receiver. Experience will prevent this from happening again. BTW, how bad is Wyoming's coverage here to allow 2 receivers to get so behind coverage??? Wyoming vs. UConn LIVE HD | College Football LIVE | NCAAF Week 4 | September 25, 2021

-Next play, a really nice throw, kept receiver in stride, threw a catchable ball to allow for an easy PI call. Wyoming vs. UConn LIVE HD | College Football LIVE | NCAAF Week 4 | September 25, 2021

-1st & goal. Nice floater to the TE. Great throw. Only offense can catch this ball. A slightly more athletic TE makes this grab for a TD. I think he only got 2" off the ground on his jump, unfortunately (and still got fingers on it): Wyoming vs. UConn LIVE HD | College Football LIVE | NCAAF Week 4 | September 25, 2021



(P.S. - Would be remiss if I didn't shout out to Nate Carter. So many huge runs on our possessions in the 2nd half!!!)

I don’t think that would’ve been an 8 yard sack for SK. He escaped the pocket more times than TP He also stayed in it to take several hits (no happy feet) and picked up several key first downs with his legs and arm. I’m disappointed that they just SK under the bus after just one game. He waited his turn and they never gave him a fair shot.

 

[247365]

1st & goal. Nice floater to the TE. Great throw. Only offense can catch this ball. A slightly more athletic TE makes this grab for a TD. I think he only got 2" off the ground on his jump, unfortunately (and still got fingers on it): Wyoming vs. UConn LIVE HD | College Football LIVE | NCAAF Week 4 | September 25, 2021

This was infuriating. If they played their best TE’s then they would not be missing a simple easy floater pass and screw up an easy TD like this. But Corey is like his Dad and it seems to be coming out as more former players speak out about the culture. The best players should play.

 

[noeynox]

I don’t think that would’ve been an 8 yard sack for SK. He escaped the pocket more times than TP He also stayed in it to take several hits (no happy feet) and picked up several key first downs with his legs and arm. I’m disappointed that they just SK under the bus after just one game. He waited his turn and they never gave him a fair shot.

I wish things would have gone better for the kid. When he got extended time against UCF he also got banged up. Part of it is having luck with injuries. If another guy comes in when you're out and performs at a decent level, and players seem to rally around that guy, what are coaches going to do?

 

[Bongo Fury]

I wish things would have gone better for the kid. When he got extended time against UCF he also got banged up. Part of it is having luck with injuries. If another guy comes in when you're out and performs at a decent level, and players seem to rally around that guy, what are coaches going to do?

Patriots should have gone back to Bledsoe. He was the better QB.