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FriarJ said:
What were they going to do? It’s a drinking problem he was seeking treatment for and affairs. Fire him? Again the reason everyone is upset is not about either of these two issues. It’s how he left. I don’t understand why so many posters here. Can’t grasp that.
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What’s there to grasp. An individual with Cooley’s behavioral issues has a strong probability of exiting a relationship in exactly the manner that you and the Providence fans are upset about.

You think his wife is thrilled about his behavior? Do you think he will change just because he is in a new location? Hopefully he will for his sake and the sake of his family. But his track record doesn’t leave that outcome likely. Be happy he’s no longer your problem.

As far as what could have been done I would have to know if he received contract extensions and monetary increases when his problems came to light. From what you are relating to us it seems his problems have a long history. I’m sure new contracts were made after the administration became aware of those problems.

I understand the difficulties that leaderships face under these circumstances. A fan base and boosters that adore a coach on one hand. An unstable individual who can disappoint on the other. They made their choice. It burned them in the end. They bear some of the responsibility. So do fans who choose to idolize any human being. When we do that we set ourselves up for disappointment.

Your reaction of anger is normal. I’ve seen it many times in this forum when posters we’re disappointed. I’m aware of three times where fan reaction was extremely negative with JC and a crescendo was reaching a point of wanting his replacement. I have no need to discuss KO.

I can sympathize with you and other Providence fans as well as my fellow UConn fans because of the pain we suffer in these circumstances. At the same time I have no problem criticizing any situation where we put a lot of our identity into something that we don’t control and think we were betrayed by someone else when in fact we betrayed ourselves.
 
ZooCougar said:
He said he was going to track him down after the season. Like literally track down a 20 year old college kid.

I have no idea why a grown man with something to lose would think it was a good idea to make threatening statements via DM, that makes content, and has a big enough following to drag you endlessly.
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What was going to happen when he tracked him down? The kid would kick his arse?
 
Rico444 said:
Goodman called into the Mark Titus podcast and the episode came out today. They cut the actual call from the podcast, and Titus did not go into specifics, but after speaking to him he now says he doesn't think Goodman did anything wrong, and that from what he said he was defending John Fanta.
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What a joke, Titus was promoting the show as if he Goodman live and then he just paraphrases what Goodman told him? I'm glad that I didn't waste my time listening.
 
FriarJ said:
What were they going to do? It’s a drinking problem he was seeking treatment for and affairs. Fire him? Again the reason everyone is upset is not about either of these two issues. It’s how he left. I don’t understand why so many posters here. Can’t grasp that.
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I don't know, the PC Twitter verse hammered the affair relentlessly and the YouTube "documentary" dedicated a ton of time to that. So maybe other fan bases think that PC fans are upset about the affair because they talk about it unrelentingly?
 
drayenob said:
This is all just an elaborate ploy by the PC fan base to get UConn distracted from tomorrow's game. Don't fall for it. Stay the course.
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Bastards!
 
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Letsgohuskies11 said:
Why does Goodman have to defend Fanta? Isn't Fanta a grown man?
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A better question is how is threatening to stalk some guy defending Fanta?
 
FriarJ said:
He can sue all he wants. He would have to prove they were lies and slander. He can’t do that. End of story. That’s why he has his sycophants (again) doing his dirty work by threatening this 20 year old DePaul student.
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huskyjawz said:
What a joke, Titus was promoting the show as if he Goodman live and then he just paraphrases what Goodman told him? I'm glad that I didn't waste my time listening.
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For real. It was basically, "Trust me bro, what Goodman said made sense. Won't say why, just trust me."
 
CTBasketball said:
I think it is.
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If you really, truly, totally, honestly, seriously, and sincerely think that it might be the most overblown topic in college hoops history...then you think that it might be the most overblown topic in college hoops history.

That statement alone, without considering or arguing anything else, makes it something that might be the most overblown topic in college hoops history. But it does not make it the most overblown topic in college hoops history.

I think it "might be" but is not the most overblown topic in the history of college hoops.

I don't think that my thought makes it not the most overblown topic in college hoops history.

I believe that covers both your statement and mine in each one's entirety. Unless either one of us is being dishonest in representing what we think it might be, we are both indisputably right.

As to whether it actually is the most overblown topic in college hoops history, neither of us knows that to be objective truth or consensus opinion toward establised certainty that it is most overblown topic in college hoops history. I maintain my strong doubts.

Nothing that follows from you matters enough for me to discuss with particularity other than to say that on this topic, there are both disputable & still unknown facts. From those facts, there are feelings, thoughts, and opinions. The feelings, thoughts, and opinions are three different (though related) things that commonly get discussed with rhetoric that bounces between them as though they are interchangeable. They aren't interchangeable, but I'm not going to waste anybody's time trying to untangle or explain any of that.
CTBasketball said:
Dauster and Goodman saw the documentary as a threat, because their livelihood is based off insider connections. Fanta used in this documentary hurts Field of 68’s ability to establish future connections.

Did Goodman need to DM the kid? No.

Do I think the kid and Twitter world is overreacting because he claims he’s being bullied? Yes you’re all children. Grow up. Even the guys on Field of 68.

And I laugh at all these free speech blow hards on Twitter, claiming it’s the video producers right to post the video. Don’t cancel it. Then attack Goodman and try to cancel him. It really has come full circle with the world of idiots we interact with.

Field of 68’s legal team is probably instructing them to keep their mouths shut if any legal action arises from this. That’s why you haven’t seen an explanation. Not because they’re clueless or hiding it all.
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Ok, I just watched the video. I was expecting Goodman to be in it. And Dauster too. I can't figure out what the problem is with the video. I mean there were rumors about Cooleys possible infidelities at the time. It would have been wrong NOT to mention that as a factor in him leaving PC. I'm not on twitter so I am asking why Goodman want to sue the guy who created the video. Also, personally I have never had a problem with Cooley. I think he's a good coach but that Divine Providence comment at his GTown presser was low and lousy. Finally, would someone please post a timeline of this entire kerfuffle please.
 
ctchamps said:
So where on the scale of approval/disapproval regarding Goodman were you prior to Cooley’s departure and where do you stand now?

Personally I’m indifferent to him but as you can easily observe he’s highly regarded in this forum.
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My opinion hasn't changed. He seems to work hard and often has some good information. His personality leaves much to be desired, as does his constant need to make everything about him.
 
Hans Sprungfeld said:
If you really, truly, totally, honestly, seriously, and sincerely think that it might be the most overblown topic in college hoops history...then you think that it might be the most overblown topic in college hoops history.

That statement alone, without considering or arguing anything else, makes it something that might be the most overblown topic in college hoops history. But it does not make it the most overblown topic in college hoops history.

I think it "might be" but is not the most overblown topic in the history of college hoops.

I don't think that my thought makes it not the most overblown topic in college hoops history.

I believe that covers both your statement and mine in each one's entirety. Unless either one of us is being dishonest in representing what we think it might be, we are both indisputably right.

As to whether it actually is the most overblown topic in college hoops history, neither of us knows that to be objective truth or consensus opinion toward establised certainty that it is most overblown topic in college hoops history. I maintain my strong doubts.

Nothing that follows from you matters enough for me to discuss with particularity other than to say that on this topic, there are both disputable & still unknown facts. From those facts, there are feelings, thoughts, and opinions. The feelings, thoughts, and opinions are three different (though related) things that commonly get discussed with rhetoric that bounces between them as though they are interchangeable. They aren't interchangeable, but I'm not going to waste anybody's time trying to untangle or explain any of that.
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I think, therefore I am.
 
HuskyHawk said:
I get it. But it lends credence to the story that isn't public. Cooley was clearly forced to choose or he wouldn't have left. The circumstances were such that he likely suffered the same fate as staying if he acknowledged that reality in public. So he had no choice but to pretend like this was a choice he made freely, which makes PC look worse. Even given that, he was still far less than gracious in his exit.
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I simply don't buy that, I have seen plenty of individuals in my life deal with similar issues with both delicately and professionally. He did none of those, he negotiated in season, he quit on the team and he lied about it, then crapped on PC on his way out. End of story, but it didn't have to be that way. To say he had no other choice or avenue is as ridiculous as his behavior. We all have choices.
 
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QDOG5 said:
Ok, I just watched the video. I was expecting Goodman to be in it. And Dauster too. I can't figure out what the problem is with the video. I mean there were rumors about Cooleys possible infidelities at the time. It would have been wrong NOT to mention that as a factor in him leaving PC. I'm not on twitter so I am asking why Goodman want to sue the guy who created the video. Also, personally I have never had a problem with Cooley. I think he's a good coach but that Divine Providence comment at his GTown presser was low and lousy. Finally, would someone please post a timeline of this entire kerfuffle please.
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Goodman is buddies with Cooley, Fanta works with Dauster and Goodman on Field of 68. Fanta spoke a bunch in the Divine Providence doc, even though he doesn't say anything bad they probably don't want him associated with it. Goodman is probably worried about access with his buddy Cooley now.

Dauster seems like a nice enough guy but there's too much gatekeeping with him and Goodman and Goodman is just a jagbag. College hoops is supposed to be fun and it isn't that serious. I think Fanta would be smart to not be wrapped up with them. He's a good broadcaster and his personality/love of the game is infectious. He can be one of the voices for the sport for a long time and maybe branch out to other major sports down the road.
 
CL82 said:
It was almost as if the field of 68 team said "Goodman's out. We need a new asshat." And Gottlieb said "hold my beer."
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Gottlieb: "Nailed it"
Everybody else: "Failed it"

Gottlieb might hear the rhyme and claim, "See, they agree." Cooley might ask for a cut of revenue.

I still don't think it would add up to the most overblown topic in college hoops history, but that moniker gives me a lot of room to play with.

Finally, I'd like to see "Big East Films" re-named and re-branded as (perhaps) "Ig Beast Films," with the new wordmark logo written in crayon. This would help to rebut any claim that people were misled or confused, and thought that this was a Big East production.

It is telling that a significant number of Boneyarders took the bait. Better to defend the enterprise as obvious lampooning and thus non-culpable.
 
QDOG5 said:
Ok, I just watched the video. I was expecting Goodman to be in it. And Dauster too. I can't figure out what the problem is with the video. I mean there were rumors about Cooleys possible infidelities at the time. It would have been wrong NOT to mention that as a factor in him leaving PC. I'm not on twitter so I am asking why Goodman want to sue the guy who created the video. Also, personally I have never had a problem with Cooley. I think he's a good coach but that Divine Providence comment at his GTown presser was low and lousy. Finally, would someone please post a timeline of this entire kerfuffle please.
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As Gottlieb so hypocritically pointed out its cancel culture. Some plausible defense of a fellow colleague (Fanta - a genuine good guy) but to my cynical mind was likely an action taken because he feared for his own bacon.

Had the opposite deserving affect in catapulting a locally popular video into a national video. Could have long term damaging impact on his career but short term it should be a non issue.

Just hope Fanta doesn't take a hit on this. He's really good at what he does.
 
superjohn said:
Goodman is buddies with Cooley, Fanta works with Dauster and Goodman on Field of 68. Fanta spoke a bunch in the Divine Providence doc, even though he doesn't say anything bad they probably don't want him associated with it. Goodman is probably worried about access with his buddy Cooley now.

Dauster seems like a nice enough guy but there's too much gatekeeping with him and Goodman and Goodman is just a jagbag. College hoops is supposed to be fun and it isn't that serious. I think Fanta would be smart to not be wrapped up with them. He's a good broadcaster and his personality/love of the game is infectious. He can be one of the voices for the sport for a long time and maybe branch out to other major sports down the road.
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Just when you think it's nothing but dbags from New England to Newport Beach, a fresh wind blows in from Chicagoland... QDog, SJ, and Blue Demon Degen for the win.

If Field of 68 goes down, this plucky trio could save college basketball.
 
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Hans Sprungfeld said:
Just when you think it's nothing but dbags from New England to Newport Beach, a fresh wind blows in from Chicagoland... QDog, SJ, and Blue Demon Degen for the win.

If Field of 68 goes down, this plucky trio could save college basketball.
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Haha, I don't want Field of 68 going down. I never root for anyone taking any kind of financial hit, even Goodman but he sure does act like a jerk. Dauster seems like good people and he's a Husky lunatic like the rest of us. They provide good content, they just need to calm down a little.

Fanta has a major career in network broadcasting, I want him to flourish and not get wrapped up/derailed in all this social media stuff.
 
Chin Diesel said:
Gottleib did acknowledge calling people dbags while living in Newport Beach is funny. And did say there's a high percentage of dbags there.
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I didn't see much wrong with what Gottlieb said. And he's certainly right about Newport Beach. College basketball is great in part because the fans in the Northeast are so insane. The Big East is great. The regional rivalries, the close proximity of some of the schools, the vitriol between the various fanbases. It's great for college basketball. And there are also a ton of d i ckheads among those fanbases. It all seems to check out.
 
BigErnMcCracken said:
I didn't see much wrong with what Gottlieb said. And he's certainly right about Newport Beach. College basketball is great in part because the fans in the Northeast are so insane. The Big East is great. The regional rivalries, the close proximity of some of the schools, the vitriol between the various fanbases. It's great for college basketball. And there are also a ton of d i ckheads among those fanbases. It all seems to check out.
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I guess the old saying is true, "It takes one to know one."
 
BigErnMcCracken said:
I didn't see much wrong with what Gottlieb said. And he's certainly right about Newport Beach. College basketball is great in part because the fans in the Northeast are so insane. The Big East is great. The regional rivalries, the close proximity of some of the schools, the vitriol between the various fanbases. It's great for college basketball. And there are also a ton of d i ckheads among those fanbases. It all seems to check out.
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Not including Nova and Hall fans was an oversight. Not including BCU was music to my ears. No reason to include the Canadian team.

I haven't met a fanbase without at least a half ton of d i ckheads so it great to know we win the numbers game.
 
BigErnMcCracken said:
I didn't see much wrong with what Gottlieb said. And he's certainly right about Newport Beach. College basketball is great in part because the fans in the Northeast are so insane. The Big East is great. The regional rivalries, the close proximity of some of the schools, the vitriol between the various fanbases. It's great for college basketball. And there are also a ton of d i ckheads among those fanbases. It all seems to check out.
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I don’t see much wrong with what he said. Just funny one of the most DBaggy guys living in a Dbaggy area is calling others Dbags. But, as others pointed out, at least he got some self deprecation brownie points.
 
superjohn said:
Haha, I don't want Field of 68 going down. I never root for anyone taking any kind of financial hit, even Goodman but he sure does act like a jerk. Dauster seems like good people and he's a Husky lunatic like the rest of us. They provide good content, they just need to calm down a little.

Fanta has a major career in network broadcasting, I want him to flourish and not get wrapped up/derailed in all this social media stuff.
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I agree with all of you opinions on those three.

One thing I haven't seen mentioned yet is that on Saturday, when videos were being posted from the AMP, one was uncredited but clearly Goodman's as he entered the arena and surveyed the scene.

The audio included him being called out by name, not hugely like Cooley, but clearly no love lost from the few fans who recognized him. It was more like, "Get lost, loser. Get lost, Goodman" stuff. He didn't respond, because that wasn't the point of his video. It'd be like somebody passing Portnoy on the sidewalk and saying, "You suck." No big deal.
 
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