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huskymedic said:
The majority of Coach contracts have a January to December term. There are a few exception but most run calendar year.
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So, we make the same mistake most everybody else makes just because they're making it? That makes a lot of sense.
 
UConnNick said:
So, we make the same mistake most everybody else makes just because they're making it? That makes a lot of sense.
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Yeah... I'm sure ADs @ schools like Clemson, WVA, Lousiville, Michigan, etc.. have no clue what they are doing w/ structuring coaches' contracts.
 
There's been a bunch of Cincinnati beat reporters saying UC is interested in Fleck. Without a series of really, really specific things happening he won't end up there. He has to explicitly not want to leave the Midwest, UC has to come up with P5 money to pay him, no other Midwest or other attractive P5 jobs have to open (Purdue does not count here), and the timing has to work exactly right. UC has to essentially throw a hail mary to get him. And if ND decides to part with Kelly or vice versa, it's game over for UC on Fleck.
 
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brasssbonanzaa said:
There's been a bunch of Cincinnati beat reporters saying UC is interested in Fleck. Without a series of really, really specific things happening he won't end up there. He has to explicitly not want to leave the Midwest, UC has to come up with P5 money to pay him, no other Midwest or other attractive P5 jobs have to open (Purdue does not count here), and the timing has to work exactly right. UC has to essentially throw a hail mary to get him. And if ND decides to part with Kelly or vice versa, it's game over for UC on Fleck.
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I believe that story came from this quote...

At Cincinnati, sources tell us two prominent names in the upcoming search are expected to be PJ Fleck and Troy head coach Neal Brown. Fleck is a candidate at Oregon; but should he not be the choice, we are told Cincinnati could come calling and offers a place Fleck believes he could go 13-0…and win a National Championship. Brown is very familiar with the recruiting area due to his time as offensive coordinator at Kentucky (2013-2014) and has done an excellent job as head coach at Troy the past two seasons.

Sources: Tommy Tuberville stepping down - FootballScoop
 
Pretty uphill battle getting into the CFP out of the AAC, if Oregon is on the list the only reason he turns it down is location.
 
brasssbonanzaa said:
Pretty uphill battle getting into the CFP out of the AAC, if Oregon is on the list the only reason he turns it down is location.
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I wouldn't be surprised if it's Oregon that passes on Fleck, not vice versa.
 
I think folks are getting a little ahead of themselves on Fleck. He's not doubt a very good coach, but a program like Oregon paying him big bucks seems a little premature. He's winning in the MAC. To hire a guy not from the west coast for big, big money may be a little ahead of the game. Same for Brohm and Baylor. Purdue is a dumpster fire in east lafayette who has to compete with the big boys. Avoid that job at all costs.
 
UConnNick said:
This is why you make the change now instead of waiting until Jan 1. Cincinnati is about to pluck a choice coach out of the available pool. That pool will continue to get shallower toward Jan 1. By that time, your choice is limited to those that were passed over by other hiring schools. You end up with less choices. That doesn't necessarily mean you get a lesser quality coach, but it does increase the odds against you making a successful hire.
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If WE (meaning Benedict with support from internal powers-that-be) don't have a candidate targeted, this ain't happening. A pool isn't necessary. It is a straight line.
 
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UConnNick said:
Luca Brasi presided over the resignation contract signing party.
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Did you know Luca Brasi (the 6-6 actor Something Montana) was an actual member/muscle of the Colombo crime family when Francis Ford Coppola gave him the acting job on the Godfather?
 
Zero chance Fleck would waste 5 years at an AAC school, he could end up at Oregon or even ND

kobe said:
I believe that story came from this quote...

At Cincinnati, sources tell us two prominent names in the upcoming search are expected to be PJ Fleck and Troy head coach Neal Brown. Fleck is a candidate at Oregon; but should he not be the choice, we are told Cincinnati could come calling and offers a place Fleck believes he could go 13-0…and win a National Championship. Brown is very familiar with the recruiting area due to his time as offensive coordinator at Kentucky (2013-2014) and has done an excellent job as head coach at Troy the past two seasons.

Sources: Tommy Tuberville stepping down - FootballScoop
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ND and Oregon are highly unlikely to hand the keys over to a MAC coach. Michigan hires Harbaugh, OSU hires Meyer, those brands are going to need to see more than a perfect season in the MAC.
 
Scratch Brohm from list (just dropped this is Coaching Carousel thread):

Jody Demling ‏@jdemling 8m8 minutes ago
Per a source, Western Kentucky football coach Jeff Brohm has accepted the coaching position at Purdue

Bruce Feldman ‏@BruceFeldmanCFB 6m 6 minutes ago
SOURCE: #WKU coach Jeff Brohm has accepted the #Purdue head coaching job. Am told Boilers really stepped up financially.

Dennis Dodd@dennisdoddcbs 6 mins ago
Good hire for Purdue. Brohm was groomed by Petrino as player and coach. I mean that in best possible way.

Jody Demling ‏@jdemling 5 mins ago
Am told the final decision from Jeff Brohm came after Purdue "really went in" financially. Interviewed w/Baylor and Cincinnati had talked $$
 
If he can turn Purdue around he will be gone from there in no time.....Winning there is like trying to sail the titanic after it hit 2 ice bergs.
 
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Does anyone think Cincy really has a short at PJ Fleck at this point? How is that at all a step up for him? Might as well just stay at Western Michigan and ask for more $$.
 
SonsOfNutmeg said:
Does anyone think Cincy really has a short at PJ Fleck at this point? How is that at all a step up for him? Might as well just stay at Western Michigan and ask for more $$.
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No. I think he will wait at WMU until the right P5 job becomes available as he can win at WMU and he would have to rebuild at Cincinnati.
 
SonsOfNutmeg said:
Does anyone think Cincy really has a short at PJ Fleck at this point? How is that at all a step up for him? Might as well just stay at Western Michigan and ask for more $$.
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The thing they have going for them is there is very slim pickins of P5 jobs, the only good one is Oregon. He'd have to want to move out west and UO has been in a very set system for a while now, so it'd be a big changeover if he didn't stick with their style of offense. Baylor is toxic, he won't touch them. The problem with staying at WMU is he literally cannot do any better next year than he did this year, his stock can only go down. So if he doesn't make the move this year out of WMU he risks not being as hot a commodity in 2017 if WMU goes 10-2 or even 11-1. He could increase his stock at UH or UC, however.
 
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UConnNick said:
If the Bearcats can figure out an amicable way to part company with their HC, why does it seem like mission impossible for the UConn administration to do the same? Cincinnati isn't working with any more money than we are, unless some big donors stepped forward.
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Been banging my head against this wall constantly and in multiple posts...
 
brasssbonanzaa said:
The thing they have going for them is there is very slim pickins of P5 jobs, the only good one is Oregon. He'd have to want to move out west and UO has been in a very set system for a while now, so it'd be a big changeover if he didn't stick with their style of offense. Baylor is toxic, he won't touch them. The problem with staying at WMU is he literally cannot do any better next year than he did this year, his stock can only go down. So if he doesn't make the move this year out of WMU he risks not being as hot a commodity in 2017 if WMU goes 10-2 or even 11-1. He could increase his stock at UH or UC, however.
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Plus he's only making $800K at WMU. With no P5 openings available, it makes sense for him to take a gig like Cinci or Houston. He can at least double or come close close to tripling his money and continue to build his resume for another year or 2 until the right P5 job opens.

Timing can be a bitch. I think there were 27 openings last year. Had PJ had the same season last year he would've likely had his pick of several gigs. Instead he's in a position where he may have to take a G5 job to keep his career path moving forwrd
 
bobbyinaz said:
Plus he's only making $800K at WMU. With no P5 openings available, it makes sense for him to take a gig like Cinci or Houston. He can at least double or come close close to tripling his money and continue to build his resume for another year or 2 until the right P5 job opens.

Timing can be a bitch. I think there were 27 openings last year. Had PJ had the same season last year he would've likely had his pick of several gigs. Instead he's in a position where he may have to take a G5 job to keep his career path moving forwrd
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Perhaps, though there is a school of thought that he could remain at WMU, win 11 or 12 games again, and move up to the P5. Taking a job at UC certainly is risky in a sense because the program isn't in the best shape and if he goes 5-7 or 6-6 a couple of times, his stock is now much lower than it would be if he stayed at WMU for '17 and went 10-2/11-1.

The good news for us is that if somehow Diaco is booted and Fleck is considering the likes of UC and UH, we'd have a semi-realistic shot at bringing him in.
 
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