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Tuberville stepping down.

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SonsOfNutmeg said:
Does anyone think Cincy really has a short at PJ Fleck at this point? How is that at all a step up for him? Might as well just stay at Western Michigan and ask for more $$.
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No. I think he will wait at WMU until the right P5 job becomes available as he can win at WMU and he would have to rebuild at Cincinnati.
 
SonsOfNutmeg said:
Does anyone think Cincy really has a short at PJ Fleck at this point? How is that at all a step up for him? Might as well just stay at Western Michigan and ask for more $$.
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The thing they have going for them is there is very slim pickins of P5 jobs, the only good one is Oregon. He'd have to want to move out west and UO has been in a very set system for a while now, so it'd be a big changeover if he didn't stick with their style of offense. Baylor is toxic, he won't touch them. The problem with staying at WMU is he literally cannot do any better next year than he did this year, his stock can only go down. So if he doesn't make the move this year out of WMU he risks not being as hot a commodity in 2017 if WMU goes 10-2 or even 11-1. He could increase his stock at UH or UC, however.
 
UConnNick said:
If the Bearcats can figure out an amicable way to part company with their HC, why does it seem like mission impossible for the UConn administration to do the same? Cincinnati isn't working with any more money than we are, unless some big donors stepped forward.
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Been banging my head against this wall constantly and in multiple posts...
 
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brasssbonanzaa said:
The thing they have going for them is there is very slim pickins of P5 jobs, the only good one is Oregon. He'd have to want to move out west and UO has been in a very set system for a while now, so it'd be a big changeover if he didn't stick with their style of offense. Baylor is toxic, he won't touch them. The problem with staying at WMU is he literally cannot do any better next year than he did this year, his stock can only go down. So if he doesn't make the move this year out of WMU he risks not being as hot a commodity in 2017 if WMU goes 10-2 or even 11-1. He could increase his stock at UH or UC, however.
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Plus he's only making $800K at WMU. With no P5 openings available, it makes sense for him to take a gig like Cinci or Houston. He can at least double or come close close to tripling his money and continue to build his resume for another year or 2 until the right P5 job opens.

Timing can be a bitch. I think there were 27 openings last year. Had PJ had the same season last year he would've likely had his pick of several gigs. Instead he's in a position where he may have to take a G5 job to keep his career path moving forwrd
 
bobbyinaz said:
Plus he's only making $800K at WMU. With no P5 openings available, it makes sense for him to take a gig like Cinci or Houston. He can at least double or come close close to tripling his money and continue to build his resume for another year or 2 until the right P5 job opens.

Timing can be a bitch. I think there were 27 openings last year. Had PJ had the same season last year he would've likely had his pick of several gigs. Instead he's in a position where he may have to take a G5 job to keep his career path moving forwrd
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Perhaps, though there is a school of thought that he could remain at WMU, win 11 or 12 games again, and move up to the P5. Taking a job at UC certainly is risky in a sense because the program isn't in the best shape and if he goes 5-7 or 6-6 a couple of times, his stock is now much lower than it would be if he stayed at WMU for '17 and went 10-2/11-1.

The good news for us is that if somehow Diaco is booted and Fleck is considering the likes of UC and UH, we'd have a semi-realistic shot at bringing him in.
 
brasssbonanzaa said:
Perhaps, though there is a school of thought that he could remain at WMU, win 11 or 12 games again, and move up to the P5. Taking a job at UC certainly is risky in a sense because the program isn't in the best shape and if he goes 5-7 or 6-6 a couple of times, his stock is now much lower than it would be if he stayed at WMU for '17 and went 10-2/11-1.

The good news for us is that if somehow Diaco is booted and Fleck is considering the likes of UC and UH, we'd have a semi-realistic shot at bringing him in.
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Fleck is not going to command a heavy duty contract, ie 12 to 15mm range. Even with a bigger school he would likely be in the 2 to mid 2 level, like an 8 mm type deal. He's not won at a p5 level, or even top g5 level over any period of time.
 
don356 said:
Fleck is not going to command a heavy duty contract, ie 12 to 15mm range. Even with a bigger school he would likely be in the 2 to mid 2 level, like an 8 mm type deal. He's not won at a p5 level, or even top g5 level over any period of time.
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Brohm just got 6 years/$20MM from Purdue and he hasn't won at the P5 level either. If Fleck gets the Oregon or Baylor job it will be for similar money
 
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There is a rumor that Purdue passed on Fleck to pursue Brohm. Apparently they were not impressed with his interview.
 
kobe said:
There is a rumor that Purdue passed on Fleck to pursue Brohm. Apparently they were not impressed with his interview.
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Not so sure it wasn't the other way around.. From 12/2: Purdue doesn't expect to get P.J. Fleck for coaching vacancy

>>Purdue officials now believe it is unlikely they will get a sitdown with Western Michigan coach PJ Fleck and are prepared to move onto their next target, Western Kentucky's Jeff Brohm, according to a person with knowledge of the process.<<
 
A Dennis Dodd article on coaching. He was the savant of conference realignment i recall aka the last guy to know or predict anything accurately unless it had actually already happened.
 
don356 said:
He was the savant of conference realignment i recall aka the last guy to know or predict anything accurately unless it had actually already happened.
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Thus, his sources must be in the UConn athletic department! :p
 
brasssbonanzaa said:
The thing they have going for them is there is very slim pickins of P5 jobs, the only good one is Oregon. He'd have to want to move out west and UO has been in a very set system for a while now, so it'd be a big changeover if he didn't stick with their style of offense. Baylor is toxic, he won't touch them. The problem with staying at WMU is he literally cannot do any better next year than he did this year, his stock can only go down. So if he doesn't make the move this year out of WMU he risks not being as hot a commodity in 2017 if WMU goes 10-2 or even 11-1. He could increase his stock at UH or UC, however.
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Totally depends on the situation. Herman had a worse year this year than last. Texas aint that bad a gig though. If Fleck goes 10+ wins WMU next year his prospects will be fine, depending on his Ooc schedule possibly 9 won't hurt.
 
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TheDrifter75 said:
Totally depends on the situation. Herman had a worse year this year than last. Texas aint that bad a gig though. If Fleck goes 10+ wins WMU next year his prospects will be fine, depending on his Ooc schedule possibly 9 won't hurt.
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True that it's situationally dependent, though don't forget Herman beat OU and Louisville this year and lost to a ranked Navy, so that evened things a bit. WMU has USC and Michigan State on the road next year. If those are where he loses, that'll be overlooked. If he loses a couple of MAC games to bad unranked teams (SMU beat UH, I know) and doesn't beat USC and Michigan State, his stock will bump down a bit.

He's in a real tough spot, his stock is sky high right now and likely never will go higher at WMU and the job market for P5 HC positions is unusually empty with no real good fits for him.
 
don356 said:
I think he owns a condo at del boca vista phase 2 with the Constanzas.
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he does. his son bought him his Cadillac though.
 
traitor71 said:
Tubs vs Butch Davis in the big FIU/FAU Shula Bowl would at least make it somewhat interesting to follow.
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Civil War #2 .........................no red pants please.
 
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huskymedic said:
Doubt it:

Tom Groeschen ‏@TomGroeschen 8m8 minutes ago
#UC AD MIKE BOHN confirms Tuberville is stepping down: 'It's something we worked on together.'

Somewhere between $2.4m and $1.5m my guess.
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Just saw that Tubberville is interested in the Florida Atlantic head coaching Vacancy.
Last year they paid their head coach around 600K. At 62, he'll be sitting pretty with his buyout and no doubt lowering his handicap at the same time! Also taking advantage of Floridian income tax code. Smart cookie!

Report: Former SEC coach Tommy Tuberville interested in FAU job
 
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