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I was reading about Tua's debut with the Dolphins, and I had to read this 3 times before I could process it.

Tagovailoa also became the first left-handed quarterback to complete a pass since Kellen Moore did so for the Dallas Cowboys in Week 17 of the 2015 season.

No lefty has completed a pass in 5 years? Crazy.

As someone who watched Boomer and Steve Young, it seemed so bizarre. But yep, it's a fact.

List of left-handed quarterbacks - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org en.wikipedia.org
 
nomar said:
I was reading about Tua's debut with the Dolphins, and I had to read this 3 times before I could process it.

Tagovailoa also became the first left-handed quarterback to complete a pass since Kellen Moore did so for the Dallas Cowboys in Week 17 of the 2015 season.

No lefty has completed a pass in 5 years? Crazy.

As someone who watched Boomer and Steve Young, it seemed so bizarre. But yep, it's a fact.

List of left-handed quarterbacks - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org en.wikipedia.org
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I have no idea if it is real, but back in the day I read that receivers have a major adjustment to the opposite direction spin. So lefties deal with more drops. Certainly over time they adjust or Young and Boomer wouldn't have been what they were.

Other theory - lefties with great arms play baseball.
 
HuskyHawk said:
I have no idea if it is real, but back in the day I read that receivers have a major adjustment to the opposite direction spin. So lefties deal with more drops. Certainly over time they adjust or Young and Boomer wouldn't have been what they were.

Other theory - lefties with great arms play baseball.
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Would imagine it's an adjustment for the OL too, get beat and you generally have an idea of how to force the defender a certain way to let the QB roll out. But completely different when you need a lefty QB to roll out and be able to throw
 
navery12 said:
Would imagine it's an adjustment for the OL too, get beat and you generally have an idea of how to force the defender a certain way to let the QB roll out. But completely different when you need a lefty QB to roll out and be able to throw
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Same goes for handoffs. That exchange has to be fluid and natural at a high speed.
 
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I think that’s why you don’t see many. Running an offense, worse case scenario you need to have a backup who can come in and run the offense with minimal disruption. Hard to do with a lefty. Handoffs, spin, blindside protection. LT’s are blindside protectors. It’s not as simple as making a LT a RT to protect the blindside.
 
navery12 said:
Would imagine it's an adjustment for the OL too, get beat and you generally have an idea of how to force the defender a certain way to let the QB roll out. But completely different when you need a lefty QB to roll out and be able to throw
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These are all good theories and make sense. But over the years there have been guys good enough to justify having your team make the necessary adjustments. The guys I named, Brunell, Vick, et al. It's odd one hasn't come along in so long.
 
As a lefty this offends me. I’ll be writing to the league offices and putting together the initial stages of a class action suit based on constitutional grounds.
 
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Kenny Stabler had no problem hooking up with Fred Biletnekoff and Cliff Branch.
 
What are the stats for lefty success in various sports? Seems like lower than % in general population.

Football - QB's under-represented, I'd guess irrelevant at all other positions save kicker?
Baseball - more lefty's than usual, definitely among pitchers
Basketball - There SHOULD be more lefties, but I think they are under-represented, for that reason they have an advantage as even at NBA & college level defenders can't seem to remember when a guy is lefty. I've always had an easier time defending lefties than most because I remember and because I incorrectly try to block shots with my right hand. You'd think there'd be more lefties as % since lefties via standard youth drills lefties are forced to be more ambidextrous.
Hockey - ?? no clue
Soccer - ?
Tennis - seems like an advantage but I'd guess under-represented
Boxing - no one will fight them
Skating - ?

 
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Dogdeacon said:
What are the stats for lefty success in various sports? Seems like lower than % in general population.

Football - QB's under-represented, I'd guess irrelevant at all other positions save kicker?
Baseball - more lefty's than usual, definitely among pitchers
Basketball - There SHOULD be more lefties, but I think they are under-represented, for that reason they have an advantage as even at NBA & college level defenders can't seem to remember when a guy is lefty. I've always had an easier time defending lefties than most because I remember and because I incorrectly try to block shots with my right hand. You'd think there'd be more lefties as % since lefties via standard youth drills lefties are forced to be more ambidextrous.
Hockey - ?? no clue
Soccer - ?
Tennis - seems like an advantage but I'd guess under-represented
Boxing - no one will fight them
Skating - ?

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I believe MLB is 25% left handed, which is higher than the percentage of left hand people in the general population.
 
Dogdeacon said:
What are the stats for lefty success in various sports? Seems like lower than % in general population.

Football - QB's under-represented, I'd guess irrelevant at all other positions save kicker?
Baseball - more lefty's than usual, definitely among pitchers
Basketball - There SHOULD be more lefties, but I think they are under-represented, for that reason they have an advantage as even at NBA & college level defenders can't seem to remember when a guy is lefty. I've always had an easier time defending lefties than most because I remember and because I incorrectly try to block shots with my right hand. You'd think there'd be more lefties as % since lefties via standard youth drills lefties are forced to be more ambidextrous.
Hockey - ?? no clue
Soccer - ?
Tennis - seems like an advantage but I'd guess under-represented
Boxing - no one will fight them
Skating - ?

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There are a lot of "lefties" in hockey, but that doesn't necessarily equate with being left handed. Same with lax. I know plenty of people who were lefty in lax and/or hockey, but were right handed.
 
crazyUCfan23 said:
There are a lot of "lefties" in hockey, but that doesn't necessarily equate with being left handed. Same with lax. I know plenty of people who were lefty in lax and/or hockey, but were right handed.
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Yeah, seems like for lax & hockey being left sticked could be preferable on defense but a disadvantage on offense if a typical defender is right sticked.
Are most lacrosse goalies left-sticked to better defend right-handers? Or does it not matter. I know only what little I've learned in 2yrs of my 10yr old playing.
In hockey I'd think left-handed hockey goalies are rare, possible disadvantage (although then maybe a weird advantage in terms of messing up shooters?!).
 
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Dogdeacon said:
Yeah, seems like for lax & hockey being left sticked could be preferable on defense but a disadvantage on offense if a typical defender is right sticked.
Are most lacrosse goalies left-sticked to better defend right-handers? Or does it not matter. I know only what little I've learned in 2yrs of my 10yr old playing.
In hockey I'd think left-handed hockey goalies are rare, possible disadvantage (although then maybe a weird advantage in terms of messing up shooters?!).
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There are some lefty goalies in lax, but I don't think for goalies it really makes much of a difference. I always found shooting against a lefty goalie as a righty was easier, but its really just personal preference. It's certainly an advatage to have a lefty defender guard a righty. Having at least one lefty on offense is a necessity in lax.
 
crazyUCfan23 said:
There are some lefty goalies in lax, but I don't think for goalies it really makes much of a difference. I always found shooting against a lefty goalie as a righty was easier, but its really just personal preference. It's certainly an advatage to have a lefty defender guard a righty. Having at least one lefty on offense is a necessity in lax.
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That offensive necessity point, brings me back to its weird in basketball that there aren't more lefties. In a spread offense put a right-handed shooting wing on the right side and a left handed shooting wing on the left side and the combo provides fractional advantages, namely a quicker release with more space off a strong hand dribble and a little more space to get a shot off on each baseline.

Plus for the rarity reason a good left-handed shooting stroke is more aesthetically pleasing than a right hander. I can still envision Greg Woodard's pure jumper (Villanova).
 
crazyUCfan23 said:
There are a lot of "lefties" in hockey, but that doesn't necessarily equate with being left handed. Same with lax. I know plenty of people who were lefty in lax and/or hockey, but were right handed.
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That would be me. I’m a righty when writing, throwing, shooting a basketball, golfing, tennis. But hockey and lacrosse I’m a lefty.
 
Dogdeacon said:
What are the stats for lefty success in various sports? Seems like lower than % in general population.

Football - QB's under-represented, I'd guess irrelevant at all other positions save kicker?
Baseball - more lefty's than usual, definitely among pitchers
Basketball - There SHOULD be more lefties, but I think they are under-represented, for that reason they have an advantage as even at NBA & college level defenders can't seem to remember when a guy is lefty. I've always had an easier time defending lefties than most because I remember and because I incorrectly try to block shots with my right hand. You'd think there'd be more lefties as % since lefties via standard youth drills lefties are forced to be more ambidextrous.
Hockey - ?? no clue
Soccer - ?
Tennis - seems like an advantage but I'd guess under-represented
Boxing - no one will fight them
Skating - ?

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Thanks for adding the Rocky clip.

Need to add Golf to the List....very low percentage of players playing lefty there.....
 
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