OT: Trout to get $430mm from Angels

[ucp990411]

Yeah but these guys earned it. The whole “it’s a privilege not a right” talk is insane to me. Their careers weren’t handed to them, they had to out train and out compete millions of others to get a chance at the pros + all the uncertainty of getting hurt or just simply not panning out.

The people complaining about how much money athletes make don’t understand these guys have talents and traits that are valued over whatever talent they can provide themselves, and that these athletes didn’t just magically win the lottery

Believe me I know how elite these guys are. I respect the heck out of them for what they put into their craft. My point is that priorities are out of whack for our society. Same goes for entertainers. And I know I support their salaries. I have U tube TV and MLB TV so I am guilty of paying their salaries.

 

[storrsroars]

Believe me I know how elite these guys are. I respect the heck out of them for what they put into their craft. My point is that priorities are out of whack for our society. Same goes for entertainers. And I know I support their salaries. I have U tube TV and MLB TV so I am guilty of paying their salaries.

At least ballplayers have a skill set. They're not Kardashians or YT "stars". What ballplayers make is somewhere between #500000 and #1000000 on the list of current American societal woes.

 

[intlzncster]

At least ballplayers have a skill set. They're not Kardashians or YT "stars". What ballplayers make is somewhere between #500000 and #1000000 on the list of current American societal woes.

Depends what you mean. Kardashian's skill set is marketing. And they're damn good at it. Kylie gets something like a million bucks for a single intsa product placement. That's insane.

I'll go wash off now.

 

[the Q]

Depends what you mean. Kardashian's skill set is marketing. And they're damn good at it. Kylie gets something like a million bucks for a single intsa product placement. That's insane.

I'll go wash off now.

Her cosmetic business is also well run with low costs and great margins. And has her own built in celebrity endorsement.

 

[Waquoit]

Anyone calling pro sports a kids game these days is in the tank for management

 

[storrsroars]

Depends what you mean. Kardashian's skill set is marketing. And they're damn good at it. Kylie gets something like a million bucks for a single intsa product placement. That's insane.

I'll go wash off now.

Her cosmetic business is also well run with low costs and great margins. And has her own built in celebrity endorsement.

And would anyone care about any of this w/o the Kardashian name? Which was achieved how?

 

[intlzncster]

And would anyone care about any of this w/o the Kardashian name? Which was achieved how?

Oh I get it, believe me. But the rub is that they spun it into something. There's been a bajillion sex tapes out there...but not too many billionaires on the back of them.

 

[whaler11]

Kris Jenner is a legitimate business genius. When you get 6 figgies for a retweet - you cracked the code.

 

[intlzncster]

Kris Jenner is a legitimate business genius. When you get 6 figgies for a retweet - you cracked the code.

A girl friend of mine was commenting on Kylie the other day. Apparently posted 4 product placement shots on insta that day. +$4m or something for her effort. It's really amazing. Mario cheat code irl.

 

[superjohn]

At least ballplayers have a skill set. They're not Kardashians or YT "stars". What ballplayers make is somewhere between #500000 and #1000000 on the list of current American societal woes.

Or our president.

 

[whaler11]

A girl friend of mine was commenting on Kylie the other day. Apparently posted 4 product placement shots on insta that day. +$4m or something for her effort. It's really amazing. Mario cheat code irl.

Watch the Fyre Fest docs if you haven’t. One Hulu, One Netflix.

 

[superjohn]

A girl friend of mine was commenting on Kylie the other day. Apparently posted 4 product placement shots on insta that day. +$4m or something for her effort. It's really amazing. Mario cheat code irl.

Her surgeons deserve to be billionaires...

 

[intlzncster]

Watch the Fyre Fest docs if you haven’t. One Hulu, One Netflix.

I am one of the few who haven't. I really need to tee those up soon.

 

[whaler11]

I am one of the few who haven't. I really need to tee those up soon.

Do it ASAP. Best things I’ve watched this year.

 

[the Q]

Or our president.

Before this goes cesspool...you’re too smart to make such an ignorant comment

 

[superjohn]

Before this goes cesspool...you’re too smart to make such an ignorant comment

My apologies, I guess I should have said being a snake oil salesman/carnival barker is a skill set, just not one we should value.

 

[the Q]

My apologies, I guess I should have said being a snake oil salesman/carnival barker is a skill set, just not one we should value.

I’d consider real estate development, sales, marketing, branding, and licensing skills to learn.

 

[tzznandrew]

I’d consider real estate development, sales, marketing, branding, and licensing skills to learn.

Aren't almost all of those skills the same that the Kardashians have? Not trying to Cesspool this, but there's very little difference. They're both the products of inherited wealth and celebrity/reality culture.

 

[Travelman6]

I am as big a sports fan as anybody, especially baseball and I know Trout is the best player and a good guy but the amount of money these guys make is disgusting. So many people don’t know where their next meal is coming from. I know a major league player and his family and they say it is a different world these guys live in.

This is like 100x worse. Nonsense: https://gizmodo.com/guy-who-ran-verizons-failing-aol-yahoo-hybrid-to-leave-1833425616

 

[the Q]

This is like 100x worse. Nonsense: https://gizmodo.com/guy-who-ran-verizons-failing-aol-yahoo-hybrid-to-leave-1833425616

1) golden parachutes are normal. That’s how you attract top talent. Just like baseball.

2) it’s amazing when you see a $3.4b market cap as “pitiful” when like 90% of companies would kill for that.

 

[storrsroars]

1) golden parachutes are normal. That’s how you attract top talent. Just like baseball.

Not "just like baseball". In baseball, you carry insurance on potentially bad contracts and there's always a likelihood you can swap out a bad contract to another team (see Kemp, Matt to Reds). Players don't suddenly get a new huge windfall when they fail and the team wants to dump them. They just get their remaining salary should the team have to eat that amount.

What you are applauding is a game that's only played by the 1% for the 1% and why the stock market is about the least useful gauge of the economy these days. Most BoDs couldn't care less about the welfare of their neighbors or humanity and the whole concept of quarterly reporting has proven time and again to be non-productive.

I love Yang's plan to institute a VAT. He's worth my switching party affiliation.

 

[the Q]

Not "just like baseball". In baseball, you carry insurance on potentially bad contracts and there's always a likelihood you can swap out a bad contract to another team (see Kemp, Matt to Reds). Players don't suddenly get a new huge windfall when they fail and the team wants to dump them. They just get their remaining salary should the team have to eat that amount.

What you are applauding is a game that's only played by the 1% for the 1% and why the stock market is about the least useful gauge of the economy these days. Most BoDs couldn't care less about the welfare of their neighbors or humanity and the whole concept of quarterly reporting has proven time and again to be non-productive.

I love Yang's plan to institute a VAT. He's worth my switching party affiliation.

You have insurance for injuries. Not performance

 

[storrsroars]

You have insurance for injuries. Not performance

You get insurance on big contracts so that if the player gets injured (Prince Fielder, David Wright) and it affects their performance to the point where the contract has to be eaten, you're protected. You're not buying insurance AFTER the injury.

Point remains, golden parachutes are not like compensation in baseball. If anything, all you're buying is a corporate bureaucrat with little to no impact on either innovation or the bottom line. If these folks were truly any good they'd be entrepreneurs.

 

[whaler11]

1) golden parachutes are normal. That’s how you attract top talent. Just like baseball.

2) it’s amazing when you see a $3.4b market cap as “pitiful” when like 90% of companies would kill for that.

Do yourself a favor and stop.

 

[the Q]

Do yourself a favor and stop.

You have no idea what you’re talking about