Transfer Trey Lewis
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Now it's official, so says Goodman.
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It's not discussed because it's a given but we still shouldn't be continually losing recruits to UNLV and VCU.
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Darius Smith was a 4 star recruit, ranked as high as #71, when he committed and was considered one of the best if not the best uncommitted guards in the country. We beat out amongst others Indiana, UCLA, Kentucky, and Duke for him. I know he flamed out and wasn't anywhere near as good as we hoped, but he was not a "reach" in the least. The Boneyard was ecstatic when he committed. Constantly lumping him with Trice, Kellogg, and other "reaches" is simply not fair. If we secured a commitment from the #71 player in the country right now this place would be jumpin'.
http://www.maxpreps.com/news/3x215h...--marshalls-darius-smith-verbals-to-uconn.htm
http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/recruiting/rankings/rank-1642/0
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My point is we had struck out a lot that year to need to go after him so late. Whatever it was it was the first time I felt like we needed a staff shakeup.
I'm starting to feel the same now. Whomever posted about A graybeard moving on and getting a HC gig would be optimal. I think that would be best case.
My comments on Moore, more asking is he doing much, what is the feel of those closer to it than me saying jettison him. I have three young kids so I don't have much time to clarify thoughts or opine too deep so may have been lost in translation.
Clearly staff can coach, I'm asking re recruiting. VCU & UNLV are in similar conferences but do fine so something seems amiss.
And it really feels like Ollie is doing most of the heavy lifting where when Tom Moore was here, u always heard recruits rave about him.
I'm starting to feel the same now. Whomever posted about A graybeard moving on and getting a HC gig would be optimal. I think that would be best case.
My comments on Moore, more asking is he doing much, what is the feel of those closer to it than me saying jettison him. I have three young kids so I don't have much time to clarify thoughts or opine too deep so may have been lost in translation.
Clearly staff can coach, I'm asking re recruiting. VCU & UNLV are in similar conferences but do fine so something seems amiss.
And it really feels like Ollie is doing most of the heavy lifting where when Tom Moore was here, u always heard recruits rave about him.
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Moore left for Quinnipiac in 2007 and Ollie joined the staff in 2010. How does that work?
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What do you mean? When Tom Moore was on staff, he seemed to be an effective recruiting weapon. Now, we don't have an assistant who is providing that value, so it seems like Ollie has to do all of that work. That their careers at UConn didn't overlap seems irrelevant to me.
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What are our Coaches reactions (i.e. actions) when this news pops up? Are we aggressive, passive, over-evaluating, etc.? Is there a sense of urgency?
I mean I see so many transfer names come up and many fans have stated our needs. For guards is Purvis and Adams (TSam to a lesser extent) scaring them away?
I am trying to remain positive about our recruiting but its waning recruit by recruit.
I mean I see so many transfer names come up and many fans have stated our needs. For guards is Purvis and Adams (TSam to a lesser extent) scaring them away?
I am trying to remain positive about our recruiting but its waning recruit by recruit.
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Misread the post - didn't see the "where" before "when Tom Moore was here".
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We have no way of knowing, so speculating on how our coaches react only adds to our own self-induced anxiety.
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Ain't that always the way.
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Recruiting, not coaching despite what many think, is the lifeblood of TODAYS college landscape. The greatest active coaches in the country today dont win without the sufficient talent. We need to bring in someone who knows his way around the recruiting/AAU landscape so that the job of coaching and developing can be Ollie's main focus.
On an unrelated note, take this for what its worth, but a friend of mine on the team (bench player, wont say who publicly) said the divorce had a big effect on Ollie this past year. He said he didnt have the same "fire" he did the year before. He said Ollie's wife was simply fed up with him never being around during his 13 year journeyman career and now as a head coach. Maybe that can be attributed partially to our recruiting woes, hopefully it gets better.
On an unrelated note, take this for what its worth, but a friend of mine on the team (bench player, wont say who publicly) said the divorce had a big effect on Ollie this past year. He said he didnt have the same "fire" he did the year before. He said Ollie's wife was simply fed up with him never being around during his 13 year journeyman career and now as a head coach. Maybe that can be attributed partially to our recruiting woes, hopefully it gets better.
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The truth is that we have no idea who is an effective recruiter and who isn't. We always hear how players love KO, but for the most part (as far as we know) the only guy who was totally swayed by that fact alone was DHam. We held onto this belief that after he got an in-home with Jabari Parker that KO will be a recruiting savant. But it takes more than that. I'm all for bringing in a true "recruiter," a guy with legit AAU connections, as that is what really matters in today's game. You can be the best coach in the world, but without talent, you will not win anything.
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Like many of us mentioned in other threads it was obvious that the fire wasn't there on the sidelines this past year. It was the obvious the divorce was having some effect on him. Did you friend say if he seems to have regained any emotion or is he still in the doldrums? Ollie is a decent, respected, good father from all accounts so the divorce must have been like getting hit with a time bomb. Hopefully he has his zest back now as we need him and his staff to start recruiting a lot better.
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No word on whether he has improved his spirits lately, but he said that his wife was just "fed up" with him never being around and now that their kids are graduating high school she decided to move on. He is a very family oriented man and it seems to have taken a toll on him. Unfortunately, the divorce likely makes it easier if KO ever decides to move onto the NBA in my opinion as his family being in Glastonbury for nearly 20 years while he played in the NBA was a major anchor for keeping KO in CT, now that that is gone things may be different. Lets hope things improve.
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Just want to point a few things out:
Kids in the '13, '14 and '15 classes started getting recruited when Calhoun was still the coach. Their recruiting ramped up when we were hit with the postseason ban and conference realignment 1-2 punch. Sanctions - limiting the number of our coaches who could go on the road, and the hours they could spend - meant we weren't able to get out to see as many of our targets as other teams, and meant that we struggled a bit with talent ID.
Two examples:
Obviously we've also lost some painful ones that we probably/possibly should have won (Abu being the most notable, and the Prince Ali thing was a clear duck*-up). Nothing here is perfect.
But context matters when talking about recruiting, and it's too often lacking on this board. Especially since each of the last three classes has gotten successively better, just by the raw numbers.
- We've signed 3 borderline 5-star players in the last two years (Purvis, Hamilton, Adams)
- We'll have more 4 & 5 stars on next year's roster than we did on last year's
- We got our Nos. 1&2 targets last year and Nos. 1&3 this year, missing on Stone
- Our staff has not had a full recruiting cycle together yet
Kids in the '13, '14 and '15 classes started getting recruited when Calhoun was still the coach. Their recruiting ramped up when we were hit with the postseason ban and conference realignment 1-2 punch. Sanctions - limiting the number of our coaches who could go on the road, and the hours they could spend - meant we weren't able to get out to see as many of our targets as other teams, and meant that we struggled a bit with talent ID.
Two examples:
- Will Jackson, who we spent a ton of time on and actually signed. Then after a closer look, the staff felt comfortable recruiting over him and the kid subsequently left
- Tevin Mack, who we got onto at least six months - but more like a year - after his other finalists
Obviously we've also lost some painful ones that we probably/possibly should have won (Abu being the most notable, and the Prince Ali thing was a clear duck*-up). Nothing here is perfect.
But context matters when talking about recruiting, and it's too often lacking on this board. Especially since each of the last three classes has gotten successively better, just by the raw numbers.
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