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bc puckett said:
I would agree. As a long time fan even if they win the Big XVII I'd have a hard time putting them in the Final Four unless all hell beaks loose everywhere else.

Since this is the first year of an 8 year deal I think everyone needs to take a deep breath, enjoy the games, and see how the whole thing plays out.
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What's the Big Seventeen?;)
 
Jimmy Serrano said:
Who is your top 4?
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I don't know. Any of the top 10 to 12 teams can beat the other on any particular day. Maybe not everyday, but on enough days. That's why a we need at least 8 and preferably 16 teams to play it out.
 
BlueDogs said:
I don't know. Any of the top 10 to 12 teams can beat the other on any particular day. Maybe not everyday, but on enough days. That's why a we need at least 8 and preferably 16 teams to play it out.
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More teams in the playoffs doesn't solve that. You'd need a longer regular season or the elimination of games against road apples.
 
Every sport with a one-and-done championship format leaves room for the 'best team didn't win' argument. And that's not even accounting for discussions on whether 'best' needs to be measured over a season or at a specific place and time. The NCAA football playoff shouldn't be about finding a best team, it should be about crowning a champion. Teams compete to win - you win at one level you compete at the next -- div, conference, Nat'l. In the NCAA, the NFL, MLB, and the NHL there is a downside to playing in a tough league -- you don't get a pass to the next level. I'm not blind to the quality of the SEC, I just believe that to qualify for a tournament of champions you should win the championship you compete for. If you asked me today to name a best four, I'd say Miss St, Bama, Auburn, and Oregon; if you asked me seed the playoff, I' d say Miss St, Oregon, Kan St and Mich St...
 
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SeoulHuskyFan said:
Every sport with a one-and-done championship format leaves room for the 'best team didn't win' argument. And that's not even accounting for discussions on whether 'best' needs to be measured over a season or at a specific place and time. The NCAA football playoff shouldn't be about finding a best team, it should be about crowning a champion. Teams compete to win - you win at one level you compete at the next -- div, conference, Nat'l. In the NCAA, the NFL, MLB, and the NHL there is a downside to playing in a tough league -- you don't get a pass to the next level. I'm not blind to the quality of the SEC, I just believe that to qualify for a tournament of champions you should win the championship you compete for.
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I agree with this, but I think the playoff should be expanded to 8. All 5 "Power" conference champions get in. Then 3 at-large spots (with 1 spot open to a G5 school...if he11 ever froze over and the panel voted them in).
 
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Dooley said:
I agree with this, but I think the playoff should be expanded to 8. All 5 "Power" conference champions get in. Then 3 at-large spots (with 1 spot open to a G5 school...if he11 ever froze over and the panel voted them in).
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The more teams the better. I say expand to at least 10 and give at least the top two seed a bye. My plan is laid out on page 2.
 
Bonehead said:
8 is the right number in my head but willing to see how this plays out this year.
below is the final 2013 regular season poll prior to bowl games
http://www.hustlebelt.com/2013/12/8...ball-rankings-final-2013-regular-season-polls

off record only the top 6 are easy - the next two cause some controversy - but so does teams 68 and up in the BB tourney.
C fla and Louisville both 11-1 and outside top 10.
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Teams 64-68 will never win the National Basketball Title...EVER.

There is an outside chance that an 8 seed may knock off the 1 on the road. That is why I think giving the top teams a bye, playing the first two rounds at the higher seed, and reseeding are key.

A 10 seed may beat the 3 at a neutral site, but there is a significantly high probability they won't beat the 3 on the road, a fresh 1 seed on the road, and 2 seed in three successive weeks to even get a chance at the championship game..
 
Bonehead said:
8 is the right number in my head but willing to see how this plays out this year.
below is the final 2013 regular season poll prior to bowl games
http://www.hustlebelt.com/2013/12/8...ball-rankings-final-2013-regular-season-polls

off record only the top 6 are easy - the next two cause some controversy - but so does teams 68 and up in the BB tourney.
C fla and Louisville both 11-1 and outside top 10.
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Yes, I'd think 8 is infinitely better than 4. But. I still think 16 is a good number. If my math is right, that's a max of 5 weeks of games. Cut the regular season to a max of 11 games . Get rid of patsy games and require at least two OC games. You could fit 2 weeks of playoffs in December and 3 weeks in January. The rest go to bowls.

If they did this , they would be printing money hand over fist, and also some of that money could go to player stipends which is coming one way or another.
 
So for all the different scenarios kicked around. Any of them consider what happens if Missouri wins the SEC? They could win the SEC with 3 losses.
 
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I hope it happens. An sec lock out hasten playoff expansion. Whatever happens with the rest of the season, that old miss almost td was as epic a play as I can remember. The injury sucked but there was so much drama packed into that play it was ridiculous. I dislike the Sec attitude towards all things non sec but there are some great games happening there. Big12 too, to a slightly lesser degree.
 
The SEC west is going to take care of itself once all the games are played, but still have a strong chance to end up with 2 teams (I'm predicting only 1 though). Also, how much is Mizzou kicking themselves over that early season loss to a very weak Indiana team?
- MSU still has games @ Bama and the Egg Bowl @ Ole Miss.
- Bama still has @ LSU, MSU and Iron Bowl when they host Auburn.
- Auburn is still @ UGa and @ Bama, two tough places to go get a win.
- Ole Miss just dropped 2 straight, so they have the role of spoiler left to play when they host MSU
Lot's of losses looming for the Wesst, and the survivor most likely gets a 2 loss Mizzou team in the SECCG

My predicted top 4: FSU, Alabama, Oregon, and Michigan St. This will leave out a likely 1 loss BXII champion (KSU, TCU, or Baylor) who did not get the benefit of a CG ratings bump. Cue the cry for CR and a BXII CG... our WV freinds who can not be named on this site are licking their tooth in anticipation.
 
Lol @their tooth... I think k state with a close lose to auburn is the 12's best bet. Hadn't considered those implications, though. This playoff could cause some big ripples.
 
I'd be surprised if Missouri wins their last three regular season games.
 
SAMCRO said:
My predicted top 4: FSU, Alabama, Oregon, and Michigan St. This will leave out a likely 1 loss BXII champion (KSU, TCU, or Baylor) who did not get the benefit of a CG ratings bump. Cue the cry for CR and a BXII CG... our WV freinds who can not be named on this site are licking their tooth in anticipation.
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The Big XII had a championship game from 1996-2010, when it actually had 12 teams, and is apparently in no rush, lead by Texas and Oklahoma, to expand in order to have it again. Apparently the powers that be are happier splitting revenues by 10 rather than 12 and that they come out ahead financially with things the way they are.

Now if TCU and Baylor both win out to finish at 11-1 and get left out of the "Chosen Four" that thinking could change.
 
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