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Diaco is a clown. And clowns generally hire other clowns.

Cummings was so good in his last job that the head coach wouldn't even permit him to call the plays.

When we hired that idiot I knew we were fycked.
 

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What exactly did DelLorenzo say in that vein? I was listening but admittedly may have missed it.

I've seen a few quotes from Max post-game:

>>"It's painful, a lot more painful for these seniors obviously to end like this," said junior running back Max DeLorenzo. "We could have won at least five, six games where we beat ourselves. That's what it comes down to. We still have a little bit of a losing attitude and culture on this team from the past. We have to fix that for the future."<<

>>"People don't see it because we're losing," running back Max DeLorenzo said. "We're playing young guys; there are times that we could have and maybe should have won some games but we didn't. We have gotten better throughout the year. This one hurts and it sucks that it's the last one.

"The scoreboard is what counts but it's a lot within us, the coaches, the players, the trainers and all that in our complex every day. It really is a different atmosphere. Coach Diaco has brought in a players-coach-type mentality and same with the other coaches. I feel like all of our relationships have grown and been great so there's definitely been a lot since he's been here, good improvements but bottom line is the games and winning the games and we haven't done that."<<

During the "Locker Room Report", Joe D asked him about Diaco's message to the team following the loss. Max referenced a few things Diaco said, including (paraphrasing) something about the atmosphere left behind from the previous years not being conducive to success.
 

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Diaco seems like too nice a guy to make a hard call like changing his staff. And he's genuine in his belief that we showed improvement.
I think you are right. And that's another reason I want to see staff changes. I want to see him get tough.
 
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What exactly did DelLorenzo say in that vein? I was listening but admittedly may have missed it.

I've seen a few quotes from Max post-game:

>>"It's painful, a lot more painful for these seniors obviously to end like this," said junior running back Max DeLorenzo. "We could have won at least five, six games where we beat ourselves. That's what it comes down to. We still have a little bit of a losing attitude and culture on this team from the past. We have to fix that for the future."<<

>>"People don't see it because we're losing," running back Max DeLorenzo said. "We're playing young guys; there are times that we could have and maybe should have won some games but we didn't. We have gotten better throughout the year. This one hurts and it sucks that it's the last one.

"The scoreboard is what counts but it's a lot within us, the coaches, the players, the trainers and all that in our complex every day. It really is a different atmosphere. Coach Diaco has brought in a players-coach-type mentality and same with the other coaches. I feel like all of our relationships have grown and been great so there's definitely been a lot since he's been here, good improvements but bottom line is the games and winning the games and we haven't done that."<<

This is scary, because it sounds like Diaco's new age loser mentality is rubbing off on these guys.

They lost. Improvements are meaningless when you are losing to teams like SMU and Army.
 
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During the "Locker Room Report", Joe D asked him about Diaco's message to the team following the loss. Max referenced a few things Diaco said, including (paraphrasing) something about the atmosphere left behind from the previous years not being conducive to success.

So similar to his first quote above?
 

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They can't fire Diaco. That would be two straight years of lost recruiting classes. That alone would set this program back multiple years. There's no easy answer here but Diaco is gonna be here next season. I agree that he will have a very hot seat from game one and I wouldn't be shocked if he was fired mid season due to continued failure. However, it doesn't help make our already horribly perceived program attractive to any coach should we fire Diaco after one year.
 

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So similar to his first quote above?
They can't fire Diaco. That would be two straight years of lost recruiting classes. That alone would set this program back multiple years. There's no easy answer here but Diaco is gonna be here next season. I agree that he will have a very hot seat from game one and I wouldn't be shocked if he was fired mid season due to continued failure. However, it doesn't help make our already horribly perceived program attractive to any coach should we fire Diaco after one year.
Interesting, so you think there is a threat of the programming being set back and sinking lower if we fire Diaco now? We are at rock bottom now by most measures. Lower would be difficult.
 

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So similar to his first quote above?

Yep, that was the general theme. Its bad enough for the players to still be thinking that way; its completely another for the HC to be incorporating that crutch into the last game speech of the year to his team. PP was obviously a train wreck, and I don't doubt the truth of the premise for a moment, but for the LEADER, to repeatedly verbalize that in the locker room, especially now, exhibits a sincere lack of accountability and judgment.

Who knows; maybe Max (or I) misunderstood the message...we can only hope.
 
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You can't worry about the coach's contract here. You worry more about the perception of firing a coach after his first year. Who's going to take the job? You'll have to dip into 1-AA because a really good D1 coordinator isn't going to risk coming into a situation like this.

as for the contract, it is more than offset by the lack of interest and the empty seats. You lose as much money there, so it's a wash.
 
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Absolutely - on all counts.

You knew we had a complete dumpster fire right here.

Read those quotes and then find bourbon.

"The game plan is built by Mike Cummings and his staff all week so the offense goes to the game with a scripted plan then everyone has jobs to execute that plan," Diaco said. "For example, you're doing a speech and standing next to you is a sign language specialist. Is the sign language specialist doing the speech or are you doing the speech?

"Mike Cummings details out the game plan for the day and then he's giving jobs to his staff to accentuate assets and limit liabilities."

"He's a manager of a unit and the way we present that is that there are certain jobs that need to be done and he organizes and coordinates assets and liabilities to decide who should do the jobs," Diaco said. "From drawing cards, to writing scripts, to recruiting hand-written letters to marketing campaigns to video productions to running the copier and everywhere in between, and we also don't feel like any one job is more important than the other as it relates to calling the game."

So why was Cummings on the sideline?

"We need those four quarters of coaching," Diaco said. "We don't want to minimize those four quarters of coaching. We want to maximize those 3 ½ hours to get even more coaching done there. That's why I called him out of the [press] box and had him on the sideline."

We are so f---ed.

Was going to press "Like" but these quotes are so silly as to be absurd. This does not sound like a football head coach. This sounds like one of those corporate team-building retreat counselors.
 
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Was going to press "Like" but these quotes are so silly as to be absurd. This does not sound like a football head coach. This sounds like one of those corporate team-building retreat counselors.

''We would have liked to win more games, but not compromising the foundation that we've built and laid,'' Diaco said. ''It is strong. It is here to stay forever and we are putting and prepared to put layers on it.
 
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You can't worry about the coach's contract here. You worry more about the perception of firing a coach after his first year. Who's going to take the job? You'll have to dip into 1-AA because a really good D1 coordinator isn't going to risk coming into a situation like this.

as for the contract, it is more than offset by the lack of interest and the empty seats. You lose as much money there, so it's a wash.

If we have another year like this one we deserve a refund not a buyout.
 
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''We would have liked to win more games, but not compromising the foundation that we've built and laid,'' Diaco said. ''It is strong. It is here to stay forever and we are putting and prepared to put layers on it.

I hate this more than anything I've ever heard after the mediocrity we've been subjected to. How exactly would more winning have compromised this awesome foundation?
 
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Yep, that was the general theme. Its bad enough for the players to still be thinking that way; its completely another for the HC to be incorporating that crutch into the last game speech of the year to his team. PP was obviously a train wreck, and I don't doubt the truth of the premise for a moment, but for the LEADER, to repeatedly verbalize that in the locker room, especially now, exhibits a sincere lack of accountability and judgment.

Who knows; maybe Max (or I) misunderstood the message...we can only hope.

Get your point but not hearing the context makes it hard to judge. Hopefully it was a "put the past beyond and move on" type of transitioning comment. In my mind - Max gets some latitude because he's lived it... I'd be more concerned if the true frosh were the one's making the comments.
 
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I've come to a different conclusion. However, due to the many hurt feelings that would inevitably spring up and my newbie status, I'll refrain from enlightening all of you with it.
 
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Tom Mason quotes:

"I thought the momentum was going our way and I felt like we had the answers for them defensively. They weren't really throwing at all and once we got the run game shut down I felt pretty good..."

"We shifted the defense to wherever they were putting that wing. They did a good job of scheming us early on, but I changed our strategy and it was a lot better for us."


Translation:

"I took candy from a baby."


I feel like emailing this to Warde Manuel. If I wake up from my fetal position sleep tonight I hope I remember to.
 

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TJ Weist is small potatoes. Maybe he'll get a HC job at the FCS level and build his resume but until he does that he's not worth pining over like a heartbroken teenager.
 

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Quotes from the article "assets and liabilities" and "chain of custody" and "no one job is more important than the other?"
Holy F. This is wacky biz consulting speak - straight out of Dilbert.

I don't know. I'm beginning to think there is a real possibility Diaco is tossed.

These quotes are completely baffling. Its clear that Diaco places too much weight in "process" which can be unproductive and well, lead to 2 win seasons.

You need to be able to divide needs from wants and these quotes indicate he is confused as about this.


"Activity without accomplishment." - John Wooden
 

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TJ Weist is small potatoes. Maybe he'll get a HC job at the FCS level and build his resume but until he does that he's not worth pining over like a heartbroken teenager.

That was me in September.

On December 6th? I'm offering to drive to his house and bring him to Storrs.
 

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That was me in September.

On December 6th? I'm offering to drive to his house and bring him to Storrs.
Fuggin A yes. And roll down the windows, dude can take the cold.
Much better on field product those last 3 games than all 12 of season '14
 
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They can't fire Diaco. That would be two straight years of lost recruiting classes. That alone would set this program back multiple years. There's no easy answer here but Diaco is gonna be here next season. I agree that he will have a very hot seat from game one and I wouldn't be shocked if he was fired mid season due to continued failure. However, it doesn't help make our already horribly perceived program attractive to any coach should we fire Diaco after one year.

We need to replace Cummings and give the new OC control of the offense. We must pick a guy who can be interim or the next HC.

This is a tough spot. We cannot give Bob 3 years. For me his body of work and the crazy baths!t things he says sre grounds for dismissal. As stated above, you can't kill 2 recruiting classes, so we may need some major tweaks, but keep Bob and hope he learns.
 

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I woke up hoping that BD knew he was in over his head and stepped down. Oh well.

If you have a head coach who looks back on a brutal season and says he is still working on laying the foundation for winning then you don't have a head coach.

If you have a head coach who still blames the old regime for a bad culture after he's had the team for nearly a year then you don't have a head coach.

Bob Diaco is a charlatan. When I hear talk of "processes" I hear Richie Kotite. You say that kind of stuff when you have lost control and don't know how to get it back. In football, if you want to develop a wining culture, YOU WIN GAMES. You do not sacrifice the concept of winning today so you can win tomorrow. You send your guys out thinking "Let's win this game!", not "Let's advance the process." The head coach sets the tone. His coaches and his players follow it. If the head coach is lost, so is everyone else. Make the change now. Find a head coach who has a burning desire to win games not develop processes.
 

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When I heard his post game I assessed his speech pattern as a kid who was making up as he spoke because he knew what he wanted to say but didn't know how to say it. During the post-hire speech he nailed his message because he wrote it on the plane. Here, he basically wants to sound encouraging and positive but he lacks the spontaneity needed to win us over.

It's like he wants to say 'we sucked and will get better' but he ends up delivering a meandering patchwork of words that sounds very "uncoach-like".
 
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