The Yankees are dead.
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She looks like she has been alive for one of "her" 27 championships.
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Took a day or two to breath; but, have to give credit to the Sox for a great season and a well played ALDS. Cora out-coached Boone, the Sox got better performance out of their starters than the Yanks, and the Sox hitters took what they could get. That said, I think Houston is going to take then in 6.
For 2019, the Yanks need to address a few things:
1 - Starting pitching. Severino's fade during the second half of the season really hurt and now one else really stood out on a consistent basis.
2 - Baserunners. I believe the Yanks score over 50% of their runs off of HR's in 2018. The Yanks need more runners on base so that can score with small ball when their power hitter go cold for whatever reason.
3 - Coach. I say Boone gets one more year. He did not have a great ALDS and the pressure will be on him to improve the team next year.
So, this is my though on next year's starting line-up.
Batting/Fielding
1) Gleybar Torres 2B
2) Aaron Judge RF
3) Manny Machado 3B
4) Giancarlo Stanton D H
5) Gary Sanchez C
6) Didi Gregorius SS
7) Luke Voit 1B
8) Aaron Hicks CF
9) Clint Frazier LF
Pitchers
1) Patrick Corbin L
2) Masahiro Tanaka R
3) Luis Severino R
4) JA Happ L
5) Best of Chance Adams R, Luis Cessa R, Domingo Germán R, Jonathan Loaisiga R, Jordan Montgomery L, Justus Sheffield R
Long Reliever) 2nd & 3rd best of 5th starters noted above
Mid-Reliever) Chad Green R, Jonathan Holder R, Tommy Kahnle,
7th Inning Reliever: Zach Britton
8th Inning Reliever: Dellin Betances
9th Innig Reliever: Aroldis Chapman
For 2019, the Yanks need to address a few things:
1 - Starting pitching. Severino's fade during the second half of the season really hurt and now one else really stood out on a consistent basis.
2 - Baserunners. I believe the Yanks score over 50% of their runs off of HR's in 2018. The Yanks need more runners on base so that can score with small ball when their power hitter go cold for whatever reason.
3 - Coach. I say Boone gets one more year. He did not have a great ALDS and the pressure will be on him to improve the team next year.
So, this is my though on next year's starting line-up.
Batting/Fielding
1) Gleybar Torres 2B
2) Aaron Judge RF
3) Manny Machado 3B
4) Giancarlo Stanton D H
5) Gary Sanchez C
6) Didi Gregorius SS
7) Luke Voit 1B
8) Aaron Hicks CF
9) Clint Frazier LF
Pitchers
1) Patrick Corbin L
2) Masahiro Tanaka R
3) Luis Severino R
4) JA Happ L
5) Best of Chance Adams R, Luis Cessa R, Domingo Germán R, Jonathan Loaisiga R, Jordan Montgomery L, Justus Sheffield R
Long Reliever) 2nd & 3rd best of 5th starters noted above
Mid-Reliever) Chad Green R, Jonathan Holder R, Tommy Kahnle,
7th Inning Reliever: Zach Britton
8th Inning Reliever: Dellin Betances
9th Innig Reliever: Aroldis Chapman
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I agree on trying to out score/ out homer teams. The Yankees have not had a legit leadoff hitter in several seasons. It costs you come the playoffs. And the RISP stats have not been good for a few years. But this is all on Cashman.
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Boone is a first year coach of team that racked up 100 wins. Hard to say he didn't have a good year. That said, yeah Cora out coached him with a very vulnerable Red Sox team. Agree that Houston is the favorite in the ALCS.
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Its the New York Yankees. The expecation, right or wrong, is to win the World Series each year. Anything less will always raise questions about the Manager.
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I'm fine with replacing Boone since I'm a Sox fan. Being a major league manager is hard. Yeah Boone made mistakes but year one, he did a great job. JMHO, though.
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I think alot of the Yanks' pitching woes can be traced back to having a mediocre (being kind here) defensive catcher. Pitchers need to be 100% confident that if they bounce one, like they often have to do, that their C is going to block it. Because that confidence is not there, grips and release points aren't as strong, which affects spin rates and velocity. Thus, pitches are left out over the white and can be hammered by good MLB hitting. Not to mention, Sanchez is an awful framer/receiver and struggles to even call a good game. His inability to read hitter's swings and approaches is troubling.
Just give me a catcher who has complete control over the pitching staff and I'll be happy. Hit him 8th or 9th and if he hits .230, that would actually be around a 50 point improvement over what Sanchez provided in 2018.
Just give me a catcher who has complete control over the pitching staff and I'll be happy. Hit him 8th or 9th and if he hits .230, that would actually be around a 50 point improvement over what Sanchez provided in 2018.
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I'm all in on Machado too but only if he agrees to move to 3B. I wonder if they'd ever entertain Andujar at 1B. Or maybe Andujar would be a very enticing lead name in a trade package to acquire a front end starting pitcher.
I love Corbin and think his stuff would play well even in Yankee Stadium. I'm also on-board with re-signing Happ just for his career line against the Sox. CC has been terrific in the clubhouse but his production is way behind his price tag. Time to move on there. I'm a fan of Loaisiga - love the 2-seam movement. If they can't trade for a front line SP, I'm more than comfortable giving him a shot in spring training.
Britton is trash. He'll surely ask for closer money and is not worth it. If the Yanks are going to pay for premium LHP in the pen, put that money in Andrew Miller's pocket. Not Britton.
I'd love to see the Yanks look into a bona fide MLB catcher. I don't know if that means Stanton will have to play the OF so they can Dan Hurley Sanchez, but I'm more than done with that experiment. There are a few decent names available in free agency (Lucroy?) and JT Realmuto has been available for a year now. Realmuto will cost a top prospect but I'm more than okay with it if it means a marked defensive improvement behind the dish.
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I'd move Torres back to SS before playing Manny there but yeah, Machado just won some negotiation leverage with this news.
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Headline: The Yankees are dead. My take: So are the NY Football Giants!!! At least the Yankees waited until the end of the season to roll over and die. The Giants (1-5) drew their last breath last night....... in the 6th week of the season. Not even at the halfway point, and on national TV no less. Colin Cowherd called them a "Dumpster Fire". 
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Didi's Tommy John surgery is a surprise and a big shake-up as he likely will not be back before the All-Star break. I do also agree that it gives Machado leverage; but, I think he has always had interest in the Yanks.
What I do not see is interest in Bryace Harper as the Yanks do not need another big HR bat in the outfield. Got a pair of them already and the Yanks need baserunniners more that power hitters.
As a FYI, Corbin is actually from the Syracuse area and has stated that is dream has always been to play for the Yanks. So, that could help.
The Yanks just don;t seem to be 100% on Andujar, especially in comparison to Torres. There has been talk in the local paper about moving him to 1st or the OF, too. That said, package him and Gray, who needs a change of scenery, for a top-of-the-line starter, could make sense if the Yanks do land Machado. Torreyes and Wade can hold 2nd while Torres covers SS while Did is out, who by the way is in a contract year for 2019.
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Spot on. I wrote that before I learned about Didi so now the Machado pursuit becomes very real. I think they have to offer him market or above market value and even succumb to letting him play short while Didi is out...but only with the understanding that he gets the hell out of short when Didi returns. Not sure how Didi's injury impacts any Andujar trade talk plans. Pre-injury, I thought signing Machado to play 3B and packaging Andujar for a frontline SP was the play.
I actually knew that about Corbin. I would love to see him in pinstripes. Very under-rated starter and would be a very nice 2nd/3rd rotation piece. If they don't trade Andujar for pitching, I'd give Corbin a lucrative 4 year deal and a 2 year deal to Happ and that would likely result in CC going elsewhere. They could still sign 1 or both of these guys this offseason, depending on what they do in the Machado pursuit.
I have no interest in Harper. He's way too expensive, way too fragile, way too polarizing, and plays a position that Yanks have depth. I really hope Frazier can stay healthy and claim LF. If he can't, then I think Andujar's long-term position (assuming he's not traded) will become LF.
I'm really interested to see what they plan to do with Sanchez. His trade value couldn't possibly be lower so I think they're stuck. But they really have to address catcher defense. Most important defensive position on the diamond and the Yanks can't continue to run out a subpar catcher behind the dish and expect different results. I think the front office is souring on him - hence the prolonged stay in the minors this year for "conditioning" - but what can they do? Perhaps standing him up at 1B is an option or shifting Stanton to LF/RF with Judge to free up the 'Dan Hurley' for Sanchez. It's alarming when our best pitcher has zero confidence in his catcher (and rightfully so). He's not alone either.
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Sanchez is only 25 and we have seen he can hit and can throw well from behind the plate. It's his focus that remains the issue. I think he gets one more year to prove himself and could be trade bait in 2020 if he continues to have defensive issues. I think questions around him may have led to the Yanks signing Stanton this year to ensure they have 2 big bats in case Sanchez washes out.
How Yankees' Gary Sanchez intends to fix 1 of his problems over winter
I actually see Stanton to FL before Judge. Judge has the better outfield arm. But, I agree, my preference would be Frazer in LF with the Dan Hurley sport primarily for Staton; but, Judge and Sanchez going there from time to time to rest. Having a hitter in Frazier versus a power guy is important for this batting order.
I would also take Yapp over CC, though CC's dugout presence is a big thing.
If the Yanks can get Corbin and Machado via FA, thought it would be a bidding war for both. Beyond those two, could the Yanks get and under 30 proven top-of-the-line starter for a package that includes Andujar and Sheffield or Adams. That would be a game changer. Gray can be traded for some combination of prospects, mid-relief help (if Britton, Robertson, etc. land elsewhere) or outfield depth (say Frazier does not come back). Have to also remember that Montgomery should be back at the All-Star break and he has proven to be a reliable back-end starter.
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I hope he can improve his defense. I can stomach less offense from a C as long as they provide quality MLB level defense. I know it takes the longest time to develop catchers - that's why alot of them are moved out like Harper, Schwarber, etc - because the bat is waaaay ahead of the glove. But hot damn, he was awful in 2018 after facing a ton of criticism for his defense in 2017 (particularly the ALCS).
Agree re: Stanton. He's better off in LF so Judge's arm can be best utilized in RF. Stanton is not a slow poke slugger by any means. LF is still spacious at the new yard but I think Stanton can cover it. Of course the primary worry with Stanton is his long injury list and playing him in the field leaves that exposed a bit. But if they platoon the Dan Hurley (thank you Boneyard for this!) spot between Stanton/Sanchez/Voit or maybe Didi if his arm isn't ready for SS, I'd be okay with that.
Just read an article in the NY Post that two teams with Sonny Gray history that *could* be interested are Milwaukee and San Francisco. Both have pitching coaches who have worked with Gray before and both have a bit of MI depth. Perhaps there is a match there with Milwaukee for Schoop or Arcia or with SFG for Panik, like the article suggests. Also threw Jurickson Profar's name out there, who I'd love to acquire for the versatility and prospect pedigree. I'm not as high on Daniel Murphy because of the defense but do admit his type bat is very much needed at the top of the lineup. Zobrist too and his defense is about league average.
Prior to the Didi news, I thought the Yanks could explore the possibility of engaging the Giants in trade discussions for Bumgarner. He's exactly the kind of pressure cooker front line starter we need. I thought we matched well there if we offered Andujar as the lead guy. MadBum only has 1 year remaining on his current deal so the price wouldn't be as high as a guy with multiple years left. Andujar and a few prospects would, I think, be very enticing to San Fran who desperately need a bat like Andujar's. I wonder if something bigger could be expanded with Gray, Andujar and a few prospects fly out west for Panik and MadBum. I'd have zero issue with extending MadBum at premium dollars for 4 or 5 years if there are any player/agent contingencies involved. He doesn't have trade veto rights but I do think the SFG would listen to his wishes as he's meant so much to that club and city. Interesting food for thought any way.
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Wonder if the Yanks would take the "cheaper" route, pass on Machado, but sign Brian Dozier to a more affordable 3 year deal. Plug him in at 2B, shift Gleyber to SS, and keep Andujar at 3B (hope the glove comes). Dozer is a gold glove defender but is more of the boom or bust variety at the plate. With this route, it keeps more dollars available to bolster the pitching staff. Corbin, Happ, Andrew Miller, etc. When Didi returns, they pivot Torres back to 2B and find Dozier a home at one of the corners.
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Caught this in one of the local papers in jersey.
Projecting Yankees' 2019 lineup, roster if they spend big | Harper included
My primary disagreement is the Yanks going for Harper over Machado. The only plus that Harper has for the Yanks is as a left-handed hitter. Machado's bat is about the same as Harper and the can make room for him in the infield if Andujar is moved. Even Machado's growing 'bad boy' image may not be such a bad thing as every team needs one and would balance out Judge and Giancarlo's nice guy view. Plus, Harper would block Frazier getting back to the field (reports are that he is finally at 100%) along with Florial's eventual arrival (I see him replacing Hicks in 2020, whose contract expires after 2019).
Singing Murphy as a infield utility player (filling in at 2B while Didi is out with Torres and Machado splitting time at SS), left bat, and veteran leadership (replacing Walker) is intriguing.
This writer also has Corbin going to the Yanks; but, I believe the Yanks need at least 1 more top of the rotation starter as Severino has yet to prove he can be a #1 starter for an entire season and as Tanaka is one bad pitch away from Tommy John himself.
Now, a trade with the Marlins that would swap Sanchez for Realmuto is interesting, too. The Yanks would get a much better defensive catcher with a slightly higher batting average and a little less pop than Sanchez while a moving away from the pressure cooker that NYC is for baseball may be a better fit for Sanchez's personality. May not be a bad idea.
What I also like in 2019 is that if the Yanks are in it, a mid-season trade may not be needed as they will hopefully be getting Didi (INF), Heller (RHP), and Montgomery (LHP) back by August for a significant playoff drive.
Projecting Yankees' 2019 lineup, roster if they spend big | Harper included
My primary disagreement is the Yanks going for Harper over Machado. The only plus that Harper has for the Yanks is as a left-handed hitter. Machado's bat is about the same as Harper and the can make room for him in the infield if Andujar is moved. Even Machado's growing 'bad boy' image may not be such a bad thing as every team needs one and would balance out Judge and Giancarlo's nice guy view. Plus, Harper would block Frazier getting back to the field (reports are that he is finally at 100%) along with Florial's eventual arrival (I see him replacing Hicks in 2020, whose contract expires after 2019).
Singing Murphy as a infield utility player (filling in at 2B while Didi is out with Torres and Machado splitting time at SS), left bat, and veteran leadership (replacing Walker) is intriguing.
This writer also has Corbin going to the Yanks; but, I believe the Yanks need at least 1 more top of the rotation starter as Severino has yet to prove he can be a #1 starter for an entire season and as Tanaka is one bad pitch away from Tommy John himself.
Now, a trade with the Marlins that would swap Sanchez for Realmuto is interesting, too. The Yanks would get a much better defensive catcher with a slightly higher batting average and a little less pop than Sanchez while a moving away from the pressure cooker that NYC is for baseball may be a better fit for Sanchez's personality. May not be a bad idea.
What I also like in 2019 is that if the Yanks are in it, a mid-season trade may not be needed as they will hopefully be getting Didi (INF), Heller (RHP), and Montgomery (LHP) back by August for a significant playoff drive.
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If given the choice between Machado/Harper, I'd sign Machado 100x over Harper. Yanks need SS/3B far more than OF. I agree with you that Frazier should have a spot open for him and Florial, if he's not traded for a front line SP, in a few years. But to be honest, I'm leaning more towards passing on both free agent giants and spreading the money around better to strengthen pitching and defense.
I'm not so keen on Murphy's defense but his bat would be wonderful at the top of the lineup. Could hit him 2nd. Maybe even leadoff because of the high OBP. He's no speed demon but clubs are shifting away from that in the leadoff spot anyway.
I LOVE LOVE LOVE (1000 more LOVEs) the idea of trading Sanchez for Realmuto. Just swapping out catcher will help the pitching staff. We don't need more home runs. We need better pitching and better catcher defense. Realmuto can hit and will give professional at-bats all year. Plus he can play 1B in an emergency.
Corbin and Happ: completely onboard with both. 5 yrs/$95M for Corbin; 2 yrs/$28M for Happ.
Sign Andrew Miller - 3 yrs/$36M. Would love to bring this beast back to the pen.
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I agree with everything except for the last part. Chapman will be 31 next season and with is pitching style and history of knee issues, I think the Yanks need to take a look at the current bullpen and the minors to see who can take over his role by 2020. Thus, I would pass on Miller to save money and to develop what is already on-hands. Of course, I am not Cashman, so its just my opinion.
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