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The View From Section 241 (or QQ) — BC

coachcap said:
FWIW, Maryland won't be jettisoned for basically the same reason that Oregon won't be. While the Ducks are underwritten by Nike, the Terps major donor is Under Armor.
Watching the BC game, we see that New Balance funds the Thunder chickens. I've wondered for a while where UConn would be in the sponsorship pecking order if, around the turn of the Century, Starter in New Haven hadn't gone belly up. Starter was once the leading provider of merch...
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Still have some Starter waterproof outerwear. Great stuff.
 
For what it's worth, which is probably nothing, reading this thread today riled me up a little, so I sent a message to the Chief Marketing & Brand Officer of the ACC (Marques Zak MZAK@THEACC.org). My suggestion was to replace BC and talked up what bringing in UConn, and all that it brings with it, would do for the marketing department. I mentioned the 18 National titles in hoops, 3 in the last 3 years, the most recent NBA and WNBA rookies of the year and what Husky Alum George Springer did last night to launch Toronto into the World Series. All great things a marketing department could use.
Probably won't help, but certainly can't hurt getting our name into that conference's conscience. I tried.
 
Palatine said:
BCU never had any power. Never. Saying they blocked us over and over doesn't make it true. Miami has power yes. But BCU would have jumped on one foot if Miami said "Hop on one foot." NO ONE in the ACC gave a whit about anything BCU said or did. Not now. Not ever. Period. End of story. Am I getting through to you Mr. Beale?
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BC, specifically DeFilippo, was against UConn's addition to the ACC and they actively advocated against UConn to other ACC schools. Yes, they didn't have the power to "block" UConn, but if they had been an advocate for instead of an advocate against, things may have turned out differently.
 
Fairfield_1st said:
For what it's worth, which is probably nothing, reading this thread today riled me up a little, so I sent a message to the Chief Marketing & Brand Officer of the ACC (Marques Zak MZAK@THEACC.org). My suggestion was to replace BC and talked up what bringing in UConn, and all that it brings with it, would do for the marketing department. I mentioned the 18 National titles in hoops, 3 in the last 3 years, the most recent NBA and WNBA rookies of the year and what Husky Alum George Springer did last night to launch Toronto into the World Series. All great things a marketing department could use.
Probably won't help, but certainly can't hurt getting our name into that conference's conscience. I tried.
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The good news is that you have a leg to stand on when making those points. Short time ago was not possible. UConn is a marketers dream, so much positive going on. Can we continue to fund it(FB) at the level necessary to compete for the same kids that the ACC and B12 want?
 
coachcap said:
FWIW, Maryland won't be jettisoned for basically the same reason that Oregon won't be. While the Ducks are underwritten by Nike, the Terps major donor is Under Armor.
Watching the BC game, we see that New Balance funds the Thunder chickens. I've wondered for a while where UConn would be in the sponsorship pecking order if, around the turn of the Century, Starter in New Haven hadn't gone belly up. Starter was once the leading provider of merch...
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Be very interested to know what NB commits to BC. It's hard for me to believe NB goes too deep with BC. That said, NB is a $7B revenue company and Nike about $50B. The comparison of BC to Oregon is....well.....who would you rather have promoting your brand?
 
Fairfield_1st said:
For what it's worth, which is probably nothing, reading this thread today riled me up a little, so I sent a message to the Chief Marketing & Brand Officer of the ACC (Marques Zak MZAK@THEACC.org). My suggestion was to replace BC and talked up what bringing in UConn, and all that it brings with it, would do for the marketing department. I mentioned the 18 National titles in hoops, 3 in the last 3 years, the most recent NBA and WNBA rookies of the year and what Husky Alum George Springer did last night to launch Toronto into the World Series. All great things a marketing department could use.
Probably won't help, but certainly can't hurt getting our name into that conference's conscience. I tried.
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And I hope you cced & bcced the Presidents & Chancellors of the XII. No need to contact Yormark. He was our advocate...
 
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uconndogs said:
Be very interested to know what NB commits to BC. It's hard for me to believe NB goes too deep with BC. That said, NB is a $7B revenue company and Nike about $50B. The comparison of BC to Oregon is....well.....who would you rather have promoting your brand?
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I was kind of shocked to see the N B signage as I had thought of BC as being in the back pocket of that other Mass. corp. (Rheebok)...
 
uconndogs said:
Be very interested to know what NB commits to BC. It's hard for me to believe NB goes too deep with BC. That said, NB is a $7B revenue company and Nike about $50B. The comparison of BC to Oregon is....well.....who would you rather have promoting your brand?
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NB is starting to go the endorsement route a bit more with some superstar athletes like Ohtani.
Don’t blame BC for going that route given NB is up the road.
I’m sure if Nike or Addidas really wanted BC, they could outbid.
UConn is solidly a Nike school fortunately.
 
coachcap said:
I was kind of shocked to see the N B signage as I had thought of BC as being in the back pocket of that other Mass. corp. (Rheebok)...
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Reebok was Addidas but sold to Authentic Brands which is a massive collection of apparel brands. The Boston footprint isn’t nearly as big as it once was.
 
Well ... I don't know how to say this diplomatically, but some of us are acting as if UConn has passed BC permanently in football like they seem to have done in basketball. That is not a conclusion I would draw just yet. BC have P4 money and care about football. Early days yet. Yeah, they care more about hockey than basketball, but they have the resources to do much better in football.
 
I read or heard somewhere BC's total rev share next season will be in the $13-15million range, but a large chunk of it will be going to football (might've been from that clown from Eagle Daily). Seems kind of low for a P4 athletic department.
 
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RSTuthill said:
Well ... I don't know how to say this diplomatically, but some of us are acting as if UConn has passed BC permanently in football like they seem to have done in basketball. That is not a conclusion I would draw just yet. BC have P4 money and care about football. Early days yet. Yeah, they care more about hockey than basketball, but they have the resources to do much better in football.
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UConndogs beat me to it, but seem to?

Are you capable of extending a compliment without including a little backhanded jab? I've noticed for a while that you are extremely good at criticizing. I'm beginning to wonder if you have it in you compliment something.

In basketball BC is so far in our rear view mirror we'd need to turn around and drive for quite a while ib the other direction just to see where they are.

Seem to......

Wow
 
FfldCntyFan said:
UConndogs beat me to it, but seem to?

Are you capable of extending a compliment without including a little backhanded jab? I've noticed for a while that you are extremely good at criticizing. I'm beginning to wonder if you have it in you compliment something.

In basketball BC is so far in our rear view mirror we'd need to turn around and drive for quite a while ib the other direction just to see where they are.

Seem to......

Wow
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Consider moving to Tolland County. Closer to UConn and much less stress.

Going forward I'll have my posts reviewed by the positivity police. But I am baffled as to how anyone could construe that word to be criticism. And you got a like to boot. Loosen your windings would be my advice.
 
RSTuthill said:
Consider moving to Tolland County. Closer to UConn and much less stress.

Going forward I'll have my posts reviewed by the positivity police. But I am baffled as to how anyone could construe that word to be criticism. And you got a like to boot. Loosen your windings would be my advice.
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Two people immediately reacted but you are baffled?

I'll offer you an opportunity to clarify: what do you believe the statement they seem to have passed BC permanently in basketball indicates?
 
RSTuthill said:
Well ... I don't know how to say this diplomatically, but some of us are acting as if UConn has passed BC permanently in football like they seem to have done in basketball. That is not a conclusion I would draw just yet. BC have P4 money and care about football. Early days yet. Yeah, they care more about hockey than basketball, but they have the resources to do much better in football.
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BC has a systemic problem as they have not made a commitment to winning and it starts at the top with Fr. Leahy. Since joining the ACC, here are their conference records in key sports:

football: 51-83
men's basketball: 118-246
women's basketball: 97-234
baseball: 197-382

At most schools, the alums would be up in arms, but at BC, they just shrug. I know many BC alums and they really don't know what the school can or will do to turn their athletic department around. In 2015, BC was the lone P5 school that was against revenue sharing which may help understand why they have been slow to adapt to the new era.
 
UConnJim said:
BC has a systemic problem as they have not made a commitment to winning and it starts at the top with Fr. Leahy. Since joining the ACC, here are their conference records in key sports:

football: 51-83
men's basketball: 118-246
women's basketball: 97-234
baseball: 197-382

At most schools, the alums would be up in arms, but at BC, they just shrug. I know many BC alums and they really don't know what the school can or will do to turn their athletic department around. In 2015, BC was the lone P5 school that was against revenue sharing which may help understand why they have been slow to adapt to the new era.
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And here's the thing.......why does a school like BC with topflight academics need their athletics to compete at the highest level? Why endure all of the financial uncertainty with little chance of competing for championships in the major sports? BC is not alone in this quandry. I suspect it's an issue for many schools.

.......and those records are beyond suck.......good lord!
 
FfldCntyFan said:
Two people immediately reacted but you are baffled?

I'll offer you an opportunity to clarify: what do you believe the statement they seem to have passed BC permanently in basketball indicates?
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It is an adjunct parenthetical statement illustrating the main point being made from someone who has a life other than following and going to basketball games. A hockey guy. It certainly wasn't a criticism. But while we are on the topic ... while it appears Hurley loves it here, he is still very young and at some point will get bored. The situation with basketball has the same permanence as football. Coach dependent.
 
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RSTuthill said:
It is an adjunct parenthetical statement illustrating the main point being made from someone who has a life other than following and going to basketball games. A hockey guy. It certainly wasn't a criticism. But while we are on the topic ... while it appears Hurley loves it here, he is still very young and at some point will get bored. The situation with basketball has the same permanence as football. Coach dependent.
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You do realize that UCONN has won NCs under three different coaches….right?
 
RSTuthill said:
Consider moving to Tolland County. Closer to UConn and much less stress.

Going forward I'll have my posts reviewed by the positivity police. But I am baffled as to how anyone could construe that word to be criticism. And you got a like to boot. Loosen your windings would be my advice.
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No, the only one not giving their ordinary meaning to your words is you. Maybe you think “is” and “seems to be” mean the same thing. They most certainly do not. The word “is” is definitive. The phrase “seems to be” implies maybe.

All you had to do the first time to avoid the beating is a simple “my bad.” Why is that so damn hard for people?
 
businesslawyer said:
No, the only one not giving their ordinary meaning to your words is you. Maybe you think “is” and “seems to be” mean the same thing. They most certainly do not. The word “is” is definitive. The phrase “seems to be” implies maybe.

All you had to do the first time to avoid the beating is a simple “my bad.” Why is that so damn hard for people?
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Hahaha, my post got more likes than his at the time. Some beating. You have gone down the rabbit hole of absurdity. Next time wait until after dinner before you jump in.
 
I'm trying to stay neutral here and not criticize RSTurd, I mean RSTuthill (whoops).

I would enjoy an ACC invite this coming spring with our former BE members (BCU included).

Maybe the B1G could kick the "Birth Canal" to the curb and they could join too.
 
RSTuthill said:
Hahaha, my post got more likes than his at the time. Some beating. You have gone down the rabbit hole of absurdity. Next time wait until after dinner before you jump in.
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Did you think maybe the “like” was for another part of the post?
 
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businesslawyer said:
No, the only one not giving their ordinary meaning to your words is you. Maybe you think “is” and “seems to be” mean the same thing. They most certainly do not. The word “is” is definitive. The phrase “seems to be” implies maybe.

All you had to do the first time to avoid the beating is a simple “my bad.” Why is that so damn hard for people?
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UConn has passed BC in basketball, that much is obvious to everyone. But that UConn's passing of BC is permanent is speculative. It's surely proper to say that UConn's passing of BC seems to be permanent, but eternity is a long time, so it's reasonable to avoid the prediction that it is permanent.
 
pj said:
UConn has passed BC in basketball, that much is obvious to everyone. But that UConn's passing of BC is permanent is speculative. I think it's proper to say that UConn's passing of BC seems to be permanent, i.e. that BC will never catch up, but eternity is a long time, so it's reasonable to avoid the prediction that it is permanent.
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“Passed” does not bring permanency with it. If a political reporter writes that “X has passed Y in the polls,” it’s not fair to interpret that as a statement that the reporter is claiming X will therefore win the election because the passing was permanent.
 
RSTuthill said:
some of us are acting as if UConn has passed BC permanently in football like they seem to have done in basketball.
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Above is what he said to spark the kerfuffle.

businesslawyer said:
“Passed” does not bring permanency with it. If a political reporter writes that “X has passed Y in the polls,” it’s not fair to interpret that as a statement that the reporter is claiming X will therefore win the election because the passing was permanent.
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"Passed" by itself does not bring permanency, but "passed permanently" does.

If a political reporter writes that "X has passed Y permanently in the polls," it is fair to interpret that as a statement that the reporter is claiming X will therefore win the election because the passing was permanent.
 
pj said:
UConn has passed BC in basketball, that much is obvious to everyone. But that UConn's passing of BC is permanent is speculative. It's surely proper to say that UConn's passing of BC seems to be permanent, but eternity is a long time, so it's reasonable to avoid the prediction that it is permanent.
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I believe the distance between where the two programs sit in terms of stature is far more relevant than the permanence of one being ahead of the other.

As we are tied for third in national titles it can be claimed that we have passed (name any high level program with no recent titles and fewer than three or four overall) that we have passed that program but there is valid reason to view the programs as being on a similar level.

I can argue that we've passed BC even more so than Villanova has passed LaSalle (who by the way happens to have won a national title).
 
Fairfield_1st said:
For what it's worth, which is probably nothing, reading this thread today riled me up a little, so I sent a message to the Chief Marketing & Brand Officer of the ACC (Marques Zak MZAK@THEACC.org). My suggestion was to replace BC and talked up what bringing in UConn, and all that it brings with it, would do for the marketing department. I mentioned the 18 National titles in hoops, 3 in the last 3 years, the most recent NBA and WNBA rookies of the year and what Husky Alum George Springer did last night to launch Toronto into the World Series. All great things a marketing department could use.
Probably won't help, but certainly can't hurt getting our name into that conference's conscience. I tried.
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Not a shock, but 2 days later and no response. I at least expected a form response, like when applying for a job. "Thank you for your interest in the ACC..."
 
I think the bigger and more relevant question is how does BC fix a broken athletic department. You keep on losing in the major sports like they are and you won't have much of a following. Are they committed to major college athletics? The ACC money is great, but to what end?
 
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