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Bone Dog said:
I don't think Geno will be looking for a transfer. We don't really need one, as far as I can see, and it interferes with the normal development of the players he so carefully recruited. The Covid-year will already be disruptive to them, suddenly introducing an upper-class competitor is bound to feel oppressive.
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I am pretty sure statistically when the young Biggs were in the game for any length of time they were negative points so to bring in an experience big would only benefit the team. There is still plenty of time for the players on the team and those coming in to develop. There is a junior that still needs serious development a sophomore, thar showed almost no offense ,a sophomore that missed her freshman season that we know nothing about and a freshman that yes she got to see half of season this year, but we still don’t know anything about. Even if you brought in another big, Geno would be able to have a rotation with those players getting smaller amounts of minutes without hurting the team and yet still learning. Maybe Aubrey could stay at a more natural position and continue to grow her game. So in my opinion, and experience big could play the 4 or 5 giving Edwards bench time and pretty much just being a positive
 
DEpup said:
After the past 2 years of painful injuries, I'm for carrying 15 every year like we see Stanford and now SC do. For me, it's the one factor that we need to address.

if we've got a spot open for the year and there is someone like a Lou (skill and maturity) at any size but preferably big then grab her.....

Insurance is not just for your car, health, and home.....
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Stanford can afford to carry 15 players because of the prestige associated with a Stanford degree. Kids stay for 4 years whether they’re playing or riding the bench. Every single WBB scholarship at Stanford is endowed by a well-heeled alumnus.

The kids that come to UConn all come to play, which is exactly as it should be. Trying to keep 15 players happy, when only 8-9 are playing regularly, at best, is a recipe to create disgruntled players.
 
oldude said:
Stanford can afford to carry 15 players because of the prestige associated with a Stanford degree. Kids stay for 4 years whether they’re playing or riding the bench.

The kids that come to UConn all come to play, which is exactly as it should be. Trying to keep 15 players happy, when only 8-9 are playing regularly, at best, is a recipe to create disgruntled players.
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Not all stay 4 years. One transferred to Baylor this past offseason. Dijonae Carrington also transferred to Baylor, but that might have been as a 5th year grad transfer; same for one or two who transferred to Notre Dame.
 
Rowdy831 said:
I don't think you will see UCONN take a transfer. They have a lot of players coming back and have a big class coming in. They will have a couple tall girls plus AE and I really think when you look at the team next year you will see a smaller quicker team on the floor that will cause the teams they play to change to match up. Dorka is great but I don't think you need another big to fill her spot next season when you have so much fire power coming back.
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I think if Geno could find someone who brings in what Dorka does, he would jump all over it. The problem is it’s not easy to find someone that tall and that athletic.
 
southie said:
Not all stay 4 years. One transferred to Baylor this past offseason. Dijonae Carrington also transferred to Baylor, but that might have been as a 5th year grad transfer; same for one or two who transferred to Notre Dame.
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Carrington, like several other Stanford transfers, was a 5th year senior, and Tara had committed all her scholarships elsewhere. Von Gytenbeek is the player who transferred to Baylor after her sophomore season. It is highly unusual for an undergraduate to transfer from Stanford.

Von Gytenbeek got some PT at Stanford both years she was there, but wasn’t a regular rotation player. Unfortunately, that’s the same situation she’s stepped into at Baylor. If she was just looking for playing time, she probably should have stayed at Stanford for the degree.
 
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oldhuskie said:
I think saying we just are looking for just a post is even too general. I would only be interested in a very good 5 not a 4, or at least a 4 that was very comfortable as a 5. We will probably still be pretty good at the 5 with Ice and Jana, but we are not experienced or proven there. A one year grad transfer rental would be perfect if one appears.

It's a longshot but my wish-list would include a couple of players whose senior years were ended by injury. They expected at this time to be getting ready for the WNBA draft. They now are faced with three possibilities. They could enter the draft, but they probably won't be recovered enough to be ready for the WNBA season, and for that reason may not be picked very high. They could of course return to their current team for a Covid year. Or they could try a new experience, perhaps filling the potential hole in the lineup for next year's championship favorite.

Like Lou or Dorka, get to experience Uconn, improve your draft status, and play on the biggest stage with a great chance at a championship season. It could be a special opportunity that is hard to pass up. As for who, I can think of two that would meet those criteria, so if I am allowed to dream, I would hope Ayoka Lee from Kansas State or Stephanie Soares would enter the portal.

Kansas State won't be a championship contender next year, and Iowa State will be pretty good, but they lose Joens so they might slip a little from this year, so that would be the appeal, the chance to be the cherry on top of a loaded lineup 1-4. I just mention these two because they are a fit for us and because of injuries in their senior year, face an uncertain future with several options.

Maybe nobody good enough enters the portal, that is quite possible, but then again, a couple of years ago I didn't expect two C's as talented as Dorka and Cardosa to be in the portal either.
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I hear you about the Srs. but given what UConn will look like next year it is the rare player of any year who will think much of her chances for significant playing time.
 
EricLA said:
I am not in favor (in general) of taking anyone from the portal. UCONN loses Dorka and Lou. 1 post, 1 guard/wing. We add:

Paige Bueckers
Ice Brady
Jana El Alfy
Ashlynn Shade
KK Arnold
Qadence Samuels

3 guards, 1 wing/forward, 2 posts

Jana, I believe, will be the tallest player on the team at 6'4"+, but I believe she's somewhat similar to Dorka - tall girl, not a banger, good in the post with post moves, but also a capable 3 point shooter.

6'3" Aaliyah and Ice will be the "strength" in the post. Hopefully Ayanna has a sophomore leap and can provide useful minutes. There are very few athletes in the country like Aubrey. So if you consider we have 5 post players (Edwards, El-Alfy, Brady, DeBerry, Patterson), 3 wing/forward players (Ducharme/Griffin/Samuels), and 6 guards (Bueckers, Fudd, Muhl, Shade, Arnold, Bettencourt).

Our depth will be insane - at every position in every possible way. That's 14 players. Room for 1 more I suppose, and if something perfect dropped our way, I think it would be great. It's also very likely that there will be injuries and illnesses next season, so it's probably that numerous players will miss numerous games. Hate to say it, but if recent history is any indication, we have to consider that...

BUT with 14 players and incredibly skilled depth at each position, I just don't think any additions are needed. Unless it's some kind of perfect fit...
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I thought Amari was taller than Jana. According to the official roster she is 6'5" to Jana's 6'4". Really hoping that Amari puts on her Supergirl outfit and surprises us all.
 
FWIW, there is (also) a Transfer Portal Announcements thread over on the General Women's Basketball area that tracks (mostly) factual announcements of goings. There will also be one for comings, when that starts clicking.

And, given that it's that time of year, 2022-23 Coaches Opening is also in the General area.
 
Bone Dog said:
It's kinda sad, actually. I read an article in the Yale paper about how she's the captain and the leader and emotionally bonded with all her teammates and everyone looks up to her, with quotes from her all full of feels about her role on the team and the other players. Now she's just throwing that all away. Buh bye.
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You should have read this one that tells you she has no option at Yale.

www.dukechronicle.com

All-Ivy League selection Camilla Emsbo to transfer to Duke women’s basketball from Yale for 2023-24 season

Yale center Camilla Emsbo, a two-time All-Ivy League selection, announced Tuesday on Twitter that she will join the Blue Devils for the 2023-24 season.
www.dukechronicle.com www.dukechronicle.com
 
You should have read this one that tells you she has no option at Yale.
BobbyJ said:
www.dukechronicle.com

All-Ivy League selection Camilla Emsbo to transfer to Duke women’s basketball from Yale for 2023-24 season

Yale center Camilla Emsbo, a two-time All-Ivy League selection, announced Tuesday on Twitter that she will join the Blue Devils for the 2023-24 season.
www.dukechronicle.com www.dukechronicle.com
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Another reason to sue the Ivy League! :eek:

Until the covid year cycles through, the grad transfer market will continue to be strong because athletes who want go to grad school on scholarship may need to switch schools for the grad program they want. Grad school offerings are much less diverse than undergrad offerings at most schools.
 
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UcMiami said:
You should have read this one that tells you she has no option at Yale.

Another reason to sue the Ivy League! :eek:

Until the covid year cycles through, the grad transfer market will continue to be strong because athletes who want go to grad school on scholarship may need to switch schools for the grad program they want. Grad school offerings are much less diverse than undergrad offerings at most schools.
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Most of the major non-Ivy Men's Lacrosse programs have made this part of their recruiting strategy: pick up Ivy Leaguers who have run their 4-year course at an Ivy and get them for a year. Programs like my alma mater get All-American or All-Ivey performers while the students get one more year and (at least) one year of grad school.
 
RockyMTblue2 said:
I thought Amari was taller than Jana. According to the official roster she is 6'5" to Jana's 6'4". Really hoping that Amari puts on her Supergirl outfit and surprises us all.
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And I am really hoping that The Beatles reunite and surprise us all. :):rolleyes:
But at least yours has a chance of happening.
 
Dillon77 said:
FWIW, there is (also) a Transfer Portal Announcements thread over on the General Women's Basketball area that tracks (mostly) factual announcements of goings. There will also be one for comings, when that starts clicking.

And, given that it's that time of year, 2022-23 Coaches Opening is also in the General area.
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Both of those will pick up activity very soon for coaches and players that are not in the tournament, and then another wave as tournament teams end their season and just before the WNBA draft when many seniors have to make their decisions (enter draft, return to same school, or go to a new one).
 
Centerstream said:
And I am really hoping that The Beatles reunite and surprise us all. :):rolleyes:
But at least yours has a chance of happening.
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This situation kind of reminds me of the old line where someone faces 99.9% odds against him and his reply is "So you are saying that I have a chance?"

It's similar to the odds of finding Amelia E. alive on some remote island in the "Atlantic."

Can we all just recognize Amari's strengths and weaknesses and how those impact on her ability to help at the #5 next year?
 
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Fossil said:
I am pretty sure statistically when the young Biggs were in the game for any length of time they were negative points so to bring in an experience big would only benefit the team. There is still plenty of time for the players on the team and those coming in to develop. There is a junior that still needs serious development a sophomore, thar showed almost no offense ,a sophomore that missed her freshman season that we know nothing about and a freshman that yes she got to see half of season this year, but we still don’t know anything about. Even if you brought in another big, Geno would be able to have a rotation with those players getting smaller amounts of minutes without hurting the team and yet still learning. Maybe Aubrey could stay at a more natural position and continue to grow her game. So in my opinion, and experience big could play the 4 or 5 giving Edwards bench time and pretty much just being a positive
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I wonder if someone like Ila Lane would fit the bill. She's a 6'4" C/F who just entered the portal out of UCSB.
 
southie said:
Not all stay 4 years. One transferred to Baylor this past offseason. Dijonae Carrington also transferred to Baylor, but that might have been as a 5th year grad transfer; same for one or two who transferred to Notre Dame.
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Jenna Brown, graduated from Stanford after missing two seasons with knee injuries and transferred to Notre dame.

Maya Dodson, graduated from Stanford, sat out the COVID season (her academic senior season) and then grad transferred to Notre Dame.

Marta Sniezek, graduated from Stanford and transferred to Notre Dame as a fifth year player.

Lili Thompson *edit–previously said Thompson didn’t graduate, but she stepped away from the program and graduated then grad transferred to ND.

Jana VanGytenbeek has been discussed.

Estella Moschkau, graduated as a junior and left the same season as Dodson and Carrington and played a graduate season at Wisconsin.

Kailee Johnson left the team after her junior season but remained at Stanford as a student.

Taylor Rooks is one of the other rare non-grad transfers. She played maybe one season at Stanford and transferred to Harvard I believe.

Jasmine Camp, was a redshirt Junior unsure of her status but not on the roster her senior season.

Toni Kokenis is a player who left the team but stayed on as a student.

Denia Ebersole was a walk-on, earned a 1 year scholarship, left the team and graduated from Stanford.

Aly Beebe is a play who had to medical retire from basketball but I believe stayed on as a student.

Sarah Boothe was a redshirt junior where the team had fifteen players the next season. Graduated.


So, I think it’s a fair assessment by @oldude
 
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oldude said:
The NCAA granted all NCAA athletes active during the 2020-21 season an additional year of eligibility, regardless of Division level. Separately, the NAIA also granted an additional year of eligibility.

So the question relative to Soares is whether or not the NCAA will honor the NAIA 5th year eligibility for Soares to be able to play next season. I strongly suspect the NCAA will grant the extra year for Soares. I also suspect that Soares will remain at Iowa St for that 5th year.
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Who really ever knows with the NCAA, but this was already supposed to be Soares's last year:
18-19: Year 1
19-20: Year 2
20-21: COVID year, does not count
21-22: Year 3
22-23: Year 4

They will make some kind of injury argument, but it really should not be accepted.
 
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triaddukefan said:
Well if she wants to continue her basketball career, she had to transfer out due to the Ivy League Rules. She isn't turning her back on her teammates.
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It's really sad the the Ivy League has chosen to remain an archaic monolith organization. Senior student athletes in good academic standing are being denied the opportunity to remain at their schools for the 5th (COVID) year. Just insane in my opinion.
 
Geno needs another Big just for providing some breather minutes for AE and for insurance. My god, poor AE was run into the ground the 2nd half of the season playing all those minutes. It clearly affected her performance. The team is too imbalanced and needs more post support.
 
Cornell Lt said:
It's really sad the the Ivy League has chosen to remain an archaic monolith organization. Senior student athletes in good academic standing are being denied the opportunity to remain at their schools for the 5th (COVID) year. Just insane in my opinion.
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Since the Ivies don’t offer athletic scholarships, even if players were granted a 5th year of eligibility, how many would return if the option is, pay a hefty portion of tuition, room, board & fees vs a full ride somewhere else. Last years POY in the Ivy League ended up at MD, closer to home, with a full ride. Would Abby Myers have returned to Princeton for a 5th year if she could have?
 
Since this Thread is "the Transfer Portal Discussion," I came across this post and video that brings up some similar opinions from two seemingly different people: Michigan State's Tom Izzo and former Notre Dame center Natalie "Ace" Achonwa, who has worked with WNBA leadership councils and is one of the informal leaders of the Canadian National Women's team.



My takeaways:

Izzo: Is anyone going to learn to fail?

Ace: :Ease of transferring these days is devaluing the importance of making a decision & sticking by it."

Both acknowledge that there are situations that merit transfers, but the relative ease of it changes what were once athletic norms and, what I call, stick-to-it-niveness.

Something that I've been noticing recently is a correlation between some instances of coaching turnover and certain transfers. A number of programs that are trying to build or pull out of a struggle lose athletes they brought in to lead the charge or change efforts. And these athletes end up at programs that are already or just there: they "want to win."

Yes, the coach has to motivate/convince the players of his/her system and what can be gained overall by the stumbles and getting back up to ultimately achieve that end. But shouldn't the player recognize that, as well? Yes, it's not for everyone, but didn't they see that coming in?

Once again, I get numerous instances when folks should hit the door: bad -- even toxic -- fit, want to be closer to home, coaching change, etc. But I would like to see some of what Izzo and Ace are talking about.
 
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hoopsdiva said:
I wonder if someone like Ila Lane would fit the bill. She's a 6'4" C/F who just entered the portal out of UCSB.
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I have a friend in Santa Barbara, and thus I have followed UCSB for a while. Ila Lane has been
a top rebounder for all her years at University of California, Santa Barbara. It is all documented
in the NCAA Women, Division I stats. Go to NCAA Division I, Stats and then to "rebounding". Click on the drop-down link for the full
list, i.e., beyond the top 10. I have not checked this lately, but she is a known quantity. Do we need
rebounding with Aaliyah, Amari, Jana, and ICE? Maybe. But I don't think Geno is interested in
a one-year player. Interesting stuff.
 
The transfer portal has been open for two days. Best NCAAW players so far:
Jayda Curry, Cal - Maria Gakdeng, Boston College - Kennedy Fauntleroy, Georgetown. Freshman of the Year!
Maria Gakdeng, probably the best player in the transfer portal so far. 11.3 points, 6.5 rebounds, 1.8 blocks per game for Boston College.
Another Pitt women’s basketball player in the portal: Taisha Exanor (per source familiar with the situation). Has two years of eligibility left
 
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