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triaddukefan

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I wonder as long as Syracuse makes it to Friday... and Miami makes it to Saturday in Greensboro if they keep their positions.
 
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I like the timing of the reveal. It makes the conference tournaments across the board more interesting as early upsets could have impact on the Top 16 just revealed.
 

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I'll just say this.

If the Huskies, Bulldogs, Beavers and Canes end up together in Albany, that's one helluva 4 team tourney.
 
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Biggest movers since Feb. 11:

Up: Notre Dame (+3), Miami (+3)
Down: Marquette (from #9 to out)
What did UCONN do wrong for the committee to drop them to #4 since last week? They were forecast to play the #7 seed & now they have #5 Miss State in their bracket.
 
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I still don't understand this stuff.
UConn has 2 losses to 2 other #1 seeds. The Golden Domers have 3 losses, 1 against UConn and a BAD loss against UNCheats.
Is it only because they are in the ACC and we are in the AAC? Will the #1 Seeds change if Louisville or the GDers don't make it to the ACC Championship game?
 
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You can go ahead and draw in Baylor, which is going to get beat by the first team that has some athletic ability and plays intelligently. It's their kryptonite and that kryptonite doesn't exist in the Big 12. You can draw in UConn. The conference giveth and the taketh away. Otherwise UConn would be the #1 overall seed. Lots still to be decided in the ACC (personally I don't think ND will be using those frequent flyer miles) SEC and Pac 12. I'm not a big believer in Oregon either. None of the current #1 seeds should fear meeting them in a 1 vs 2 matchup. Unless the game is moved from Portland to Eugene.
 

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Biggest surprise for me was Iowa jumping to a #2 seed.
Agree. Iowa/NC St./MD all in contention for final #2 seed right now it seems. MD won B10, but Iowa beat MD in their only meeting. Assuming NC State loses in ACC semis to either ND or Louisville, you'd think it might go to whomever wins B10 tourney between Iowa and MD? (Unless of course, it's my Scarlet Knights!) Oregon St could also potentially sneak in there if they win Pac 10?
 
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What did UCONN do wrong for the committee to drop them to #4 since last week? They were forecast to play the #7 seed & now they have #5 Miss State in their bracket.
Actually UConn moved up from 5 to 4 for the Committee's top 16.
This is not related to any "weekly" poll or bracketology.
 
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You can go ahead and draw in Baylor, which is going to get beat by the first team that has some athletic ability and plays intelligently. It's their kryptonite and that kryptonite doesn't exist in the Big 12. You can draw in UConn. The conference giveth and the taketh away. Otherwise UConn would be the #1 overall seed. Lots still to be decided in the ACC (personally I don't think ND will be using those frequent flyer miles) SEC and Pac 12. I'm not a big believer in Oregon either. None of the current #1 seeds should fear meeting them in a 1 vs 2 matchup. Unless the game is moved from Portland to Eugene.
Still a fair number of non believers in Oregon--not sure why that is? Not sure if that means non-believer(s) in the PAC-12? In any case, I still see ASU & UCLA as extremely difficult teams to play for any #1 or #2 seed. I wouldn't want either of those teams in my bracket.
 

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I still don't understand this stuff.
UConn has 2 losses to 2 other #1 seeds. The Golden Domers have 3 losses, 1 against UConn and a BAD loss against UNCheats.
Is it only because they are in the ACC and we are in the AAC? Will the #1 Seeds change if Louisville or the GDers don't make it to the ACC Championship game?
They're clearly placing more value on the quality wins vs the losses. Also, I think they really want to set up the possible UConn-Miss St rematch if it makes sense.
 
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I still don't understand this stuff.
UConn has 2 losses to 2 other #1 seeds. The Golden Domers have 3 losses, 1 against UConn and a BAD loss against UNCheats.
Is it only because they are in the ACC and we are in the AAC? Will the #1 Seeds change if Louisville or the GDers don't make it to the ACC Championship game?
Notre Dame has a huge edge over UConn in terms of RPI top 25 and top 50 wins. Quality wins earn you extra leeway on a (relatively) "bad" loss.

But putting ND #3 ahead of UConn didn't affect the bracket one bit. UConn is still in Albany and is still paired with #6 Mississippi St.
 
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They're clearly placing more value on the quality wins vs the losses. Also, I think they really want to set up the possible UConn-Miss St rematch if it makes sense.
No, they don't care per se about setting up a rematch. That is not a factor.
 
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Notre Dame has a huge edge over UConn in terms of RPI top 25 and top 50 wins. Quality wins earn you extra leeway on a (relatively) "bad" loss.

But putting ND #3 ahead of UConn didn't affect the bracket one bit. UConn is still in Albany and is still paired with #6 Mississippi St.
Personally I think head to head should be a bigger factor...but then how would that work out for Louisville and their loss to ND, so nevermind...
 

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No, they don't care per se about setting up a rematch. That is not a factor.
I disagree. I believe they absolutely consider such things, as long as it falls within reasonable seeding guidelines. They want compelling matchups.
 
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Based on their graphic, they moved from a #2 seed to a #1 seed in this reveal.
Thanks! Charlie Creme had them as a #1 Albany seed, AP has them at a #2 ranking, & the selection committee moved them from #5 to #4. They are all over the place!!
 

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One has to think, assuming ND and Louisville both advance to the ACC championship game, the winner will get the #2 seed and go to Chicago?
 
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I disagree. I believe they absolutely consider such things, as long as it falls within reasonable seeding guidelines. They want compelling matchups.
Well, you can believe it if you want, despite the fact that there is no evidence of this.

If that were the case, do you really think they couldn't have found a way to put Tennessee in UConn's bracket a single time in the past 10 years?
 

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