The Top 16

[mmt]

This would be best case for UConn. All the bigs on the other side. I’ll take our chances with Louisville for a 2nd matchup in the FF

Yes, I agree, but there's a lot of bb games left.

 

[Orangutan]

That would be very rough on ND if they were placed in the PNW against Oregon as a 1-seed 2 years running.

I know the system dictates that Louisville gets Chicago but I think with these 4 1-seeds it makes a lot of sense to put ND in Chicago, Louisville in Greensboro and Baylor in Portland.

 

[Plebe]

That would be very rough on ND if they were placed in the PNW against Oregon as a 1-seed 2 years running.

At this point, it's pretty safe to say that, barring any significant upsets (which itself is not a safe assumption), the ACC tournament will determine who gets the Chicago regional. The loser may end up in Portland.

 

[MSGRET]

That would be very rough on ND if they were placed in the PNW against Oregon as a 1-seed 2 years running.

Well if they win out then they go to Chicago, it's in their hands.

 

[Orangutan]

At this point, it's pretty safe to say that, barring any significant upsets (which itself is not a safe assumption), the ACC tournament will determine who gets the Chicago regional. The loser may end up in Portland.

Agreed. ND has one more major pre-tournament hurdle to clear on Monday. Syracuse will likely have something like 12k fans in attendance.

 

[Vowelguy]

That would be very rough on ND if they were placed in the PNW against Oregon as a 1-seed 2 years running.

I know the system dictates that Louisville gets Chicago but I think with these 4 1-seeds it makes a lot of sense to put ND in Chicago, Louisville in Greensboro and Baylor in Portland.

Bay is closing in on clear overall #1 seed. They're not gonna be in Portland.

 

[Wbbfan1]

Charlie Creme’s latest top 16, in order of seed in each region:

Greensboro: Baylor, Mississippi State, Oregon State, Miami
Chicago: Louisville, Stanford, Iowa, Marquette
Albany: UConn, NC State, Maryland, South Carolina
Portland: Notre Dame, Oregon, Iowa State, Gonzaga

I'd take this Bracket if I'm UConn.

 

[Orangutan]

Bay is closing in on clear overall #1 seed. They're not gonna be in Portland.

None of the regional locations is near them. What does it matter? Every location is a flight for them and their fans.

But yeah, I realize it wouldn't actually happen.

 

[Vowelguy]

None of the regional locations is near them. What does it matter? Every location is a flight for them and their fans.

Because playing Oregon as a 2 seed in Oregon is a terrible reward for being the overall #1.

It's not about their fans; it's about their opponent's fans in this case.

There is even some suggestion that the committee wouldn't put Bay with NCS as a 2 in Greensboro. In contrast that doesnt intimidate me at all. One, the fan support is nowhere close, and second NCS is nowhere as good as Ore.

 

[Orangutan]

Because playing Oregon as a 2 seed in Oregon is a terrible reward for being the overall #1.

It's not about their fans; it's about their opponent's fans in this case.

There is even some suggestion that the committee wouldn't put Bay with NCS as a 2 in Greensboro. In contrast that doesnt intimidate me at all. One, the fan support is nowhere close, and second NCS is nowhere as good as Ore.

Oh, if Baylor is the 1 in Portland, Oregon should definitely not be the 2. I am with you there.

I am saying still put Oregon with ND so that 4 is with 5 on the s-curve, but in Chicago.

 

[Wbbfan1]

Charlie does not predict Future Games when making his brackets. The loser of Louisville vs ND Game will most likely not get a #1 seed. This presumes that either Oregon or Miss St wins out.

The question to Charlie would the loser of ND vs Louisville still get a #1 Seed. His Answer is:

It is possible, but not as likely if Miss St wins out. Same goes for if Oregon wins out with a healthy Hebard. Both Miss St and Oregon would also be collecting good wins along the way by winning out.

 

[cockhrnleghrn]

Agreed. ND has one more major pre-tournament hurdle to clear on Monday. Syracuse will likely have something like 12k fans in attendance.

I thought Syracuse's attendance for WBB was abysmal?

 

[triaddukefan]

I thought Syracuse's attendance for WBB was abysmal?

once every two years, they show up to see ND. More fans will be there Monday night than they have had for the rest of the season..combined.

 

[Fightin Choke]

I thought Syracuse's attendance for WBB was abysmal?

From the game recap from when the Irish visited Cuse 2 years ago:
"Syracuse (18-9, 9-5 Atlantic Coast Conference) had won 18 straight games at home, and even though the Orange set a school attendance record of 11,021 for the big game, the Irish had too much at the end. "

 

[IrishTiger]

I thought Syracuse's attendance for WBB was abysmal?

Fans shows up when their team plays ND. At about every ACC School when ND shows up they usually have season high attendance.

 

[Vowelguy]

I thought Syracuse's attendance for WBB was abysmal?

2300 per game last year
In an arena that seats 30000

 

[Orangutan]

I thought Syracuse's attendance for WBB was abysmal?

 

[Vowelguy]

How they fared since Poll release on 2/11:

1. Bay - KSt 71-48 | Okl 87-53 | KS 80-40 | #15 ISt 73-60 | Tx 64-35 |
2. Lou - #16 Mia 73-79 | Va 71-49 | BC 87-51 | #8 NCS
3. Ore - #12 OrSt 77-68 | #12 OrSt 62-67 | UCLA 69-74* | USC 96-78 | @Az
4. MSt - Mizz 67-75 | TAM 92-64 | Miss 80-66 | Van 86-70 | LSU
5. UCn - #13 SC 97-79 | UCF 78-41 | Mmp 102-45 | Tls 68-49 | @Wich
6. NDm - BC 97-47 | #8 NCS 95-72 | Duk 89-61 | Syr 98-68 |
7. Stn - UCLA 65-51 | USC 69-67 | AZ 56-54 | ASU 71-50 | @WSt
8. NCS - Syr 77-73 | #6 ND 72-95 | UNC 74-69 | @#2 Lou
9. Mrq - StJ 74-81 | SHall 109-63 | But 57-61 | Xav 79-53 | @Cre
10. Iow - Ill 88-66 | #11 MD 86-73 | Ind 73-75 | Neb 74-58 |
11. Mrd - Neb 89-63 | #10 Ia 73-86 | MN 71-69 | Pur 58-55 |
12. OSt - #3 Ore 68-77 | #3 Ore 67-62 | USC 68-61 | UCLA 75-72 | @ASU
13. SCr - #4 CT 79-97 | Ga 65-57 | Fla 96-77 | KY 57-65 | TN 82-67 | @Aub
14. Gnz - SD 71-44 | BYU 64-66 | SCl 74-61 | SF 64-44 | Pepp
15. ISt - TCU 69-76 | OkSt 89-67 | Okl 91-70 | #1 Bay 60-73 |
16. Mia - #2 Lou 79-73 | VT 65-73 | FSU 64-54 | GT

Bubbling under:

• Knky
• Syra
• Texa
• TAMU
• AzSt

 

[Vowelguy]

Thankfully they didn't break a record to see that beatdown. Only 3rd best.

I would guess 4 of their top 10 games have been blowout losses.

 

[Orangutan]

Thankfully they didn't break a record to see that beatdown. Only 3rd best.

I would guess 4 of their top 10 games have been blowout losses.

Apparently Syracuse is getting snow and high winds today. Anyone who stayed home is surely glad they didn't drive through a near-blizzard to see that

 

[Ozimoto]

Notre Dame's season is beginning to feel like this time last year.

 

[Vowelguy]

Apparently Syracuse is getting snow and high winds today. Anyone who stayed home is surely glad they didn't drive through a near-blizzard to see that

Yes high winds on the east coast yday.
But snow? That's just Monday in SYRA.

 

[Orangutan]

Yes high winds on the east coast yday.
But snow? That's just Monday in SYRA.

Sure, the snow is nothing out of the ordinary. It's the wind gusts of 50-65 mph blowing the snow around that makes driving difficult.

 

[Vowelguy]

Sure, the snow is nothing out of the ordinary. It's the wind gusts of 50-65 mph blowing the snow around that makes driving difficult.

Amateur.

 

[Vowelguy]

IowaSt squeaks one out over TTU. A loss would've definitely killed their shot at hosting.
Still in perilous territory, but a loss would've been deadly.