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The Official Mets 2021 Thread

Deepster said:
DeGrom now shut down until September with inflammation. This team has really faced some adversity. Need Stroman and Walker to be better than they have their last month.
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We don't have anything close to an ace. The Megill kid going tonight is probably our best healthy pitcher right now. He's a great story, but just a rookie and a small sample size.
 
8893 said:
Apparently the Mets never offered Rocker any contract at all because of their doctors' concerns and the belief that the 11th pick next year was more valuable:

Here's why the NY Mets did not sign first-round pick Kumar Rocker

The Mets did not sign right-hander Kumar Rocker, their first-round pick in this year's MLB Draft. Here's why.
www.northjersey.com www.northjersey.com
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One thing I don't understand is, if Rocker is going pro with an indy team or whatever, why doesn't he become eligible for FA immediately upon doing so rather than going into the 2022 draft?

Off top of my head, I can't recall any pro player ever being selected in the draft.

An amusing tidbit from an hour ago... I was leaving my PT appointment and a guy and his wife were headed in. He was wearing gaudy matching blue Mets shorts and shirt, with Mets logo. And a Mets cap. Dude was like 45-50. In suburban Pittsburgh. And the Mets aren't in town. What adult dresses like that? Anyway, I said in passing, "Sorry about Rocker." Both he and his wife laughed but said nothing in return.
 
storrsroars said:
One thing I don't understand is, if Rocker is going pro with an indy team or whatever, why doesn't he become eligible for FA immediately upon doing so rather than going into the 2022 draft?
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Because that would give too much leverage to the players and make them less likely to agree to terms with the teams that drafted them. That's why the team that drafts them holds the exclusive right to their services in that league for the next season.
 
Baez hurt.

We can’t have nice things.

You couldn’t make this crap up.
 
Maybe it's the Mets fan in me....but I don't feel so good right now.
 
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Yeah It's been a rough last week or so. Team is playing badly, little done at the deadline, our 1st round pick went unsigned...I think I'm ready for Sandy to move on after the season. Seeing a lot of the organizational issues continue with him that were around with the Wilpons.
 
They dropped the ball at the deadline. They still have the best team in a really weak NL East so should get in the playoffs, but they needed to add more. No idea how they don't add at least 1 RP considering the guys they've been calling up, and can't fathom seeing the results of the deGrom MRI and not adding a SP
 
They better torch the lowly Marlins tonight. Feels a little like kind of a must win.
 
Deepster said:
They better torch the lowly Marlins tonight. Feels a little like kind of a must win.
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It’s irrelevant. We’re sinking like a stone and there isn’t anything close to a stopper in our rotation.

Oh, and Jake now has a sixth, separate and unrelated injury causing elbow inflammation, just from practicing?

I don’t think we’re going to see him again this season.

Philly will be in first by the weekend. We will be in third within two weeks.
 
8893 said:
It’s irrelevant. We’re sinking like a stone and there isn’t anything close to a stopper in our rotation.

Oh, and Jake now has a sixth, separate and unrelated injury causing elbow inflammation, just from practicing?

I don’t think we’re going to see him again this season.

Philly will be in first by the weekend. We will be in third within two weeks.
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Even without deGrom the Mets are the best team in the NL East. I get they're in a slide so it's easy to be negative but they're going to win the division
 
The Mets offense just always seems to be less than the sum of their parts.
 
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8893 said:
It’s irrelevant. We’re sinking like a stone and there isn’t anything close to a stopper in our rotation.

Oh, and Jake now has a sixth, separate and unrelated injury causing elbow inflammation, just from practicing?

I don’t think we’re going to see him again this season.

Philly will be in first by the weekend. We will be in third within two weeks.
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Wow.
 
navery12 said:
Even without deGrom the Mets are the best team in the NL East. I get they're in a slide so it's easy to be negative but they're going to win the division
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Deepster said:
Wow.
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I'm not gonna bet because I don't want to "win," but I feel like I've seen this movie before.

And yes, I am really bummed about Jake. I was already having a rough night and then I realized that I hadn't fully appreciated the prior night's news from Jake's presser that he believes this is yet another new injury, and he was entertaining questions about shutting it down for the rest of the season. We went from one of the best rotations in baseball to one that is below average, and that and our defense were supposed to be our strengths to carry our lack of offensive production.

Our offense has not improved and our pitching has dropped precipitously with no hope on the horizon in terms of an ace like Jake or even a decent Syndergaard. I am encouraged by Carrasco--especially the fact that he is fresh and can hopefully eat up some innings. But Stroman and Walker have definitely dropped off, and even Megill's last outing was not good. Hill was a nice addition and I look forward to seeing him again tonight.

I just don't see how this rotation keeps up in first place, even in this division. Not with our offense.
 
Well, on the bright side, that was a good outing by Hill. And even if Baez struck out five times today, he single-handedly won last night’s game for us and his fielding on that double play today was crafty. I have no issues with him.

Huge start for Stroman tomorrow with first place on the line.
 
Every team that does anything of note faces adversity and overcomes it. This team has always battled that and overcome it and I'm on board as a believer until they don't....even if I've been burned before. This group deserves it.
 
Deepster said:
Every team that does anything of note faces adversity and overcomes it. This team has always battled that and overcome it and I'm on board as a believer until they don't....even if I've been burned before. This group deserves it.
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My daughter and I saw what I believe was Jake's second-to-last start at Citi last month and the freebie was "Ya Gotta Believe" shirts, which was a nice coincidence with their late-inning heroics that game. I wore that shirt for the first two Marlins games hoping to conjure some mojo. I'm trying, but that was not a heartening experience.

I'm still watching, which means I still have some hope. I don't know that I agree anyone "deserves" it though.
 
8893 said:
I'm still watching, which means I still have some hope. I don't know that I agree anyone "deserves" it though.
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I guess I look at things like Drury, Mazeika's weird walkouts and the weird ways they've won games.
 
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Deepster said:
I guess I look at things like Drury, Mazeika's weird walkouts and the weird ways they've won games.
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Yeah they had a lot of heart and great comebacks, but since Jake and Lindor went out they've been punchless.

Jake is the one guy I think deserves it; I just hope we see him again this season.
 
I'm not giving up quite yet, but this team looks dead in the water. I don't understand how the offense is this bad
 
Lost 7 of 10, can't hit... This is getting scary.

Need to win the next 2 against Philly, NEED.
 
That Herrera HR and bat flip induced quite a bit of rage in me yesterday.
 
M.S.G. said:
That Herrera HR and bat flip induced quite a bit of rage in me yesterday.
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I'm generally not a fan of bat flips, but as bat flips go, I thought that one was pretty tasteful, and somewhat deserved because he crushed that pitch.

I tend to get more enraged by the things our guys don't do than by the things the other guys do. And our ninth inning rally pissed me off more than anything because I knew it was fool's gold. Until then, our pitcher and a rental player who has been here all of a week or so had our only two hits off a ragtag group of Phillies pitchers.

It's as inexplicable as it is inexcusable.
 
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monty python GIF
 
And I’m golfing with a huge ball buster of a Phillies fan Wednesday. I’m going to really take some lumps there. Yikes.
 
Well there is a pulse after all.

Come on, Marcus. Put your money where your mouth is and get us another one now.
 
Signs of life from the bats yesterday, hopefully we can keep the mojo going today.. Nationals stink out loud, no reason we shouldn't get both ends of this today!
 
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