The Official Beg Diamond Stone To Come To UCONN Thread

[CL82]

I never beg. They beg me.

Rihanna: "Please, please Matt. Don't make me put the lotion again."

 

[ctchamps]

IF Dimaond Stone is a 4 man then I could live with it. There is NO way Id recruit over Amida's head--no way n o how. I can accept moving Nolan to back up C--I think even Nolan would accept that. But Amida has put in 2 years of hard work here---he personally is responsible for us beating St Joseph which was the main conduit for us winning a chip. Hes doubled his freshmen output--hes EARNED the starting C spot here at Uconn for the next 2 years if he stays. I would not recruit over him not 1/1000 chance. If Stone can play 4 man then thats fine. I'm a little surprised at the lack of loyalty. Loyalty is a foundational basis of life. Id rather go down losing with Amida at C than winning by recruiting over his head.

Amida has more Hilton Units than Diamond. Not too many recruits that can be recruited over Amida's head.

 

[Yankees32123]

IF Dimaond Stone is a 4 man then I could live with it. There is NO way Id recruit over Amida's head--no way n o how. I can accept moving Nolan to back up C--I think even Nolan would accept that. But Amida has put in 2 years of hard work here---he personally is responsible for us beating St Joseph which was the main conduit for us winning a chip. Hes doubled his freshmen output--hes EARNED the starting C spot here at Uconn for the next 2 years if he stays. I would not recruit over him not 1/1000 chance. If Stone can play 4 man then thats fine. I'm a little surprised at the lack of loyalty. Loyalty is a foundational basis of life. Id rather go down losing with Amida at C than winning by recruiting over his head.

Lol

 

[mauconnfan]

IF Dimaond Stone is a 4 man then I could live with it. There is NO way Id recruit over Amida's head--no way n o how. I can accept moving Nolan to back up C--I think even Nolan would accept that. But Amida has put in 2 years of hard work here---he personally is responsible for us beating St Joseph which was the main conduit for us winning a chip. Hes doubled his freshmen output--hes EARNED the starting C spot here at Uconn for the next 2 years if he stays. I would not recruit over him not 1/1000 chance. If Stone can play 4 man then thats fine. I'm a little surprised at the lack of loyalty. Loyalty is a foundational basis of life. Id rather go down losing with Amida at C than winning by recruiting over his head.

I'm hoping this is sarcasm? It has to be no one UConn fan can be this irrational as to the potential of getting what could be a better player. Sorry I was thinking you were serious scrappy - my bad.

 

[Sonofabeach]

I know this is a couple years a way, but I think we should be working hard on recruiting Zach Brown. This kid is a "BEAST"http://espn.go.com/college-sports/basketball/recruiting/player/_/id/190953
I think we have a good chance of getting him if we start working on him now. Think of him with Tremont Waters in the same recruiting class.

 

[UCweCONN]

IF Dimaond Stone is a 4 man then I could live with it. There is NO way Id recruit over Amida's head--no way n o how. I can accept moving Nolan to back up C--I think even Nolan would accept that. But Amida has put in 2 years of hard work here---he personally is responsible for us beating St Joseph which was the main conduit for us winning a chip. Hes doubled his freshmen output--hes EARNED the starting C spot here at Uconn for the next 2 years if he stays. I would not recruit over him not 1/1000 chance. If Stone can play 4 man then thats fine. I'm a little surprised at the lack of loyalty. Loyalty is a foundational basis of life. Id rather go down losing with Amida at C than winning by recruiting over his head.

Hey, this is "The Official Beg Diamond Stone To Come To UCONN Thread", not the "I'm Happy Having No Offense From The Center Spot and Missing The NCAA Tournament We Don't Need Diamond Stone Thread."

 

[caw]

I know this is a couple years a way, but I think we should be working hard on recruiting Zach Brown. This kid is a "BEAST"http://espn.go.com/college-sports/basketball/recruiting/player/_/id/190953
I think we have a good chance of getting him if we start working on him now. Think of him with Tremont Waters in the same recruiting class.

He did pay to come to first night, so I believe the coaching staff is very aware of him:

http://blog.ctnews.com/uconnbasketb...ther-recruits-expected-at-uconns-first-night/

Of course Omari Spellman was also there and I believe he just choose Nova.

 

[August_West]

Hers the way this goes:

Wisconsin makes run to FF second year in a row on the back of Kaminsky. Week between E8 and FF Stone announces he is attending his home state school, Wisconsin. Big buzz about hometown boy being the heir apparent to frank the tank.

I really don't see it going any other way.

 

[8893]

Hers the way this goes:

Wisconsin makes run to FF second year in a row on the back of Kaminsky. Week between E8 and FF Stone announces he is attending his home state school, Wisconsin. Big buzz about hometown boy being the heir apparent to frank the tank.

I really don't see it going any other way.

Not that I care about Wisconsin getting screwed over, but wouldn't Stone be doing precisely that if he decides to go elsewhere, especially an in-conference competitor like Maryland? Does Wisconsin have a plan B for replacing Kaminsky? Hearing about Mr. Stone's 40+ year relationship with Bo Ryan and Diamond's frequent visits to and connections on campus, I also have a hard time seeing this play out any other way than him going to Wisconsin at this point. He'd be public enemy No. 1 back home if he shafts them for Maryland.

 

[businesslawyer]

I feel like I read the dumbest thing I've ever read twice daily on this board.

He wasn't making a point about Drummond not being good. He was making the point that without chemistry raw talent is meaningless.

The 2011-12 team returned FOUR starters from a national championship team that was in the top 20 of the computers all year. Yes, it lost the national player of the year, but it added Drummond, Ryan Boatright and Deandre Daniels to the roster. On paper, the 2011-12 team was light years better than the 2010-11 team. And look what happened.

Boat is an outstanding basketball player, and the guts he showed trying to carry the team on his shoulders was outstanding. But he is not a true, lead one that should be playing point where his running mate doesn't have point skills. If a player like Shefer or Ricky Moore was his SG, the team would have been better off than pairing him with a Purvis. And then sometimes the on court chemistry works and some times it doesn't. In 11-12, it didn't. This year, it didn't.

And the more success he has in the NBA the more I will be laughed at for this, but I will go to my grave believing we would have won more games in 2011-12 if Drummond never showed up on campus and everyone else filled in accordingly. AO wouldn't have been convinced by his family that he was being disrespected, wouldn't have been benched once or twice and wouldn't have had to mold his game as much to Drummond's. Roscoe would have kept getting 20 minutes a game defending the 4 like a maniac, instead of playing himself out of the rotation trying to play a 3. Giffey wouldn't have lost minutes. Daniels might have gotten a shot to contribute. And Bazz and Boat would have had less problems fighting over the ball without adding Drummond to the mix who had to get his touches. don't see why I can't think that without it being an insult to Drummond. Sometimes a team's chemistry just doesn't work.

 

[Hans Sprungfeld]

Scrappy is the dumbest human being in this entire planet

No, Scrappy kicked off the Year of Ignoring and thereby did me a solid.

 

[Hans Sprungfeld]

He wasn't making a point about Drummond not being good. He was making the point that without chemistry raw talent is meaningless.

The 2011-12 team returned FOUR starters from a national championship team that was in the top 20 of the computers all year. Yes, it lost the national player of the year, but it added Drummond, Ryan Boatright and Deandre Daniels to the roster. On paper, the 2011-12 team was light years better than the 2010-11 team. And look what happened.

Boat is an outstanding basketball player, and the guts he showed trying to carry the team on his shoulders was outstanding. But he is not a true, lead one that should be playing point where his running mate doesn't have point skills. If a player like Shefer or Ricky Moore was his SG, the team would have been better off than pairing him with a Purvis. And then sometimes the on court chemistry works and some times it doesn't. In 11-12, it didn't. This year, it didn't.

And the more success he has in the NBA the more I will be laughed at for this, but I will go to my grave believing we would have won more games in 2011-12 if Drummond never showed up on campus and everyone else filled in accordingly. AO wouldn't have been convinced by his family that he was being disrespected, wouldn't have been benched once or twice and wouldn't have had to mold his game as much to Drummond's. Roscoe would have kept getting 20 minutes a game defending the 4 like a maniac, instead of playing himself out of the rotation trying to play a 3. Giffey wouldn't have lost minutes. Daniels might have gotten a shot to contribute. And Bazz and Boat would have had less problems fighting over the ball without adding Drummond to the mix who had to get his touches. don't see why I can't think that without it being an insult to Drummond. Sometimes a team's chemistry just doesn't work.

Not laughable to me, though we'll never now.
My pet "if only . . . " has Adrien single-handedly crushing George Mason in the second half. They had no answer for him.

 

[MattMang23]

He wasn't making a point about Drummond not being good. He was making the point that without chemistry raw talent is meaningless.

The 2011-12 team returned FOUR starters from a national championship team that was in the top 20 of the computers all year. Yes, it lost the national player of the year, but it added Drummond, Ryan Boatright and Deandre Daniels to the roster. On paper, the 2011-12 team was light years better than the 2010-11 team. And look what happened.

Boat is an outstanding basketball player, and the guts he showed trying to carry the team on his shoulders was outstanding. But he is not a true, lead one that should be playing point where his running mate doesn't have point skills. If a player like Shefer or Ricky Moore was his SG, the team would have been better off than pairing him with a Purvis. And then sometimes the on court chemistry works and some times it doesn't. In 11-12, it didn't. This year, it didn't.

And the more success he has in the NBA the more I will be laughed at for this, but I will go to my grave believing we would have won more games in 2011-12 if Drummond never showed up on campus and everyone else filled in accordingly. AO wouldn't have been convinced by his family that he was being disrespected, wouldn't have been benched once or twice and wouldn't have had to mold his game as much to Drummond's. Roscoe would have kept getting 20 minutes a game defending the 4 like a maniac, instead of playing himself out of the rotation trying to play a 3. Giffey wouldn't have lost minutes. Daniels might have gotten a shot to contribute. And Bazz and Boat would have had less problems fighting over the ball without adding Drummond to the mix who had to get his touches. don't see why I can't think that without it being an insult to Drummond. Sometimes a team's chemistry just doesn't work.

I read the first sentence and said "no they lost Kemba and Lamb." Completely forgot Jeremy returned for his soph year! Duh.

 

[Kitaman]

Scrappy is the dumbest human being in this entire planet

That's cold. Scrappy is the most optimistic poster in fantasy land. He is the only poster that brings levity after a loss, and if you happen to indulge in his thinking for a minute, gives you hope for the next game/season and all of our players.

He's not dumb, just a the polar opposite of the complaining batch of posters we have, particularly during a bad season.

Trust me we needed him this year, or at least I did.

Post On Scrappy! My Man!

 

[CallMeBruce]

He wasn't making a point about Drummond not being good. He was making the point that without chemistry raw talent is meaningless.

The 2011-12 team returned FOUR starters from a national championship team that was in the top 20 of the computers all year. Yes, it lost the national player of the year, but it added Drummond, Ryan Boatright and Deandre Daniels to the roster. On paper, the 2011-12 team was light years better than the 2010-11 team. And look what happened.

Boat is an outstanding basketball player, and the guts he showed trying to carry the team on his shoulders was outstanding. But he is not a true, lead one that should be playing point where his running mate doesn't have point skills. If a player like Shefer or Ricky Moore was his SG, the team would have been better off than pairing him with a Purvis. And then sometimes the on court chemistry works and some times it doesn't. In 11-12, it didn't. This year, it didn't.

And the more success he has in the NBA the more I will be laughed at for this, but I will go to my grave believing we would have won more games in 2011-12 if Drummond never showed up on campus and everyone else filled in accordingly. AO wouldn't have been convinced by his family that he was being disrespected, wouldn't have been benched once or twice and wouldn't have had to mold his game as much to Drummond's. Roscoe would have kept getting 20 minutes a game defending the 4 like a maniac, instead of playing himself out of the rotation trying to play a 3. Giffey wouldn't have lost minutes. Daniels might have gotten a shot to contribute. And Bazz and Boat would have had less problems fighting over the ball without adding Drummond to the mix who had to get his touches. don't see why I can't think that without it being an insult to Drummond. Sometimes a team's chemistry just doesn't work.

He said a lot of things. Most of them were terrible and stupid.

Also, I have no problem with people saying Drummond was a disappointment. He was a 103/96 player overall, which is solid, but he was 98/98 in league play which is exactly average. He didn't "almost average a double-double," he put up 10.5 and 8.6. He was a huge liability at the line, and was overall a less effective player than Brimah was this year, statistically.

 

[CardiacAndre7]

He said a lot of things. Most of them were terrible and stupid.

Also, I have no problem with people saying Drummond was a disappointment. He was a 103/96 player overall, which is solid, but he was 98/98 in league play which is exactly average. He didn't "almost average a double-double," he put up 10.5 and 8.6. He was a huge liability at the line, and was overall a less effective player than Brimah was this year, statistically.

That is almost a double-double, and IIRC he didn't even average 3o mins a game. Also, that was so much less of a "Team" than any others following it. With all the talent on that roster, we should've been one of, if not the, best teams that year.

 

[CallMeBruce]

That is almost a double-double, and IIRC he didn't even average 3o mins a game. Also, that was so much less of a "Team" than any others following it. With all the talent on that roster, we should've been one of, if not the, best teams that year.

That's a pretty generous "almost," but whatever. He was a 3 win player at .126/40. There was a ton of hype surrounding him, and what we got was a below-average offensive player and an above-average defensive player. I expected more, and given how quickly he became a star in the NBA, I wasn't wrong to expect more.

 

[Inyatkin]

That's cold. Scrappy is the most optimistic poster in fantasy land. He is the only poster that brings levity after a loss, and if you happen to indulge in his thinking for a minute, gives you hope for the next game/season and all of our players.

He's not dumb, just a the polar opposite of the complaining batch of posters we have, particularly during a bad season.

Trust me we needed him this year, or at least I did.

Post On Scrappy! My Man!

Is he the one who was convinced we could win six straight in March after we beat Dayton? That guy is awesome.

 

[Stainmaster]

Hey, this is "The Official Beg Diamond Stone To Come To UCONN Thread", not the "I'm Happy Having No Offense From The Center Spot and Missing The NCAA Tournament We Don't Need Diamond Stone Thread."

You still haven't explained why you think not getting Stone means we won't make the tournament. I'm really curious to hear your reasoning.

 

[jibsey]

He would be a star here, no doubt. He would make Brimah's weaknesses much less obvious! They'd be GREAT together

Correct, but we don't even need someone of Stone's physical gifts to make Brimah more effective, someone with strength and blue collar skills.

 

[HooperScooper]

Article posted on ESPN.com this morning. Insider's article. Nothing really new anyway.

A closer look at Diamond Stone

Team that needs him most: UConn

During the Jim Calhoun era, the Huskies were built on having a stable of quality big men who could score around the rim, rebound -- and of course, block shots. That hasn’t been the case lately though, as UConn has been carried by the Kemba Walkers and Shabazz Napiers of the world, while using more of a stretch-4 mismatch as opposed to two classic bigs. While that might be a byproduct of the direction of the game, the Huskies getting Stone for next season would enable Kevin Ollie to put two contrasting yet effective bigs on the court at the same time. Amida Brimah is one of the best defensive players in the country, while Stone’s offensive skill set would complement Brimah's perfectly. Stone can score around the basket, but is also capable of stepping out and knocking down 14-17 footers or passing out of the high post. Moreover, with Ryan Boatright leaving after this season, UConn’s run of dominant and dynamic point guards might be coming to a close. Getting Stone would mean the Huskies could go inside-out in 2015-16.

Best fit: Wisconsin

Bo Ryan might not run the swing offense as often as he used to, but the Wisconsin offense still involves putting five players on the court who can knock down shots and space the floor. Moreover, the Badgers still invert their big men -- as evidenced by Frank Kaminsky’s play over the last two seasons. With Kaminsky leaving after this season, Wisconsin has a major hole at the center position. Nigel Hayes should really come into his own next season, but playing next to a capable player like Stone would create a formidable duo. Stone would slot into Ryan’s offense very effectively given his ability to make shots from the perimeter or the mid-range. He’s likely not a 40-plus percent 3-point shooter like Kaminsky, but he’s capable -- and he’s also a very good passer, which would open things up for the rest of Wisconsin’s weapons. Additionally, Ryan has done well when it comes to developing quality big men, from Kaminsky and Jared Berggren to Jon Leuer and Brian Butch. While he possesses more of a back-to-the-basket game, Stone could be the next in line.

Goes on to talk about potential logjams (says he'd start at all 4 of his finalists anyway), dominoes to fall (nothing impacting Stone) and the Under Armour and Maryland talk. I'd be shocked if he ends up at UConn.

 

[AZHuskiePop]

IF Dimaond Stone is a 4 man then I could live with it. There is NO way Id recruit over Amida's head--no way n o how. I can accept moving Nolan to back up C--I think even Nolan would accept that. But Amida has put in 2 years of hard work here---he personally is responsible for us beating St Joseph which was the main conduit for us winning a chip. Hes doubled his freshmen output--hes EARNED the starting C spot here at Uconn for the next 2 years if he stays. I would not recruit over him not 1/1000 chance. If Stone can play 4 man then thats fine. I'm a little surprised at the lack of loyalty. Loyalty is a foundational basis of life. Id rather go down losing with Amida at C than winning by recruiting over his head.

That's two in a week
Another AZHuskiePop literary award
This time for the best covert use of sarcasm in a post.
Congratulations lucky poster
PS if this post was not meant as sarcasm , please advise us of the what it is exactly you are ingesting. we all could use some.

 

[jibsey]

IF Dimaond Stone is a 4 man then I could live with it. There is NO way Id recruit over Amida's head--no way n o how. I can accept moving Nolan to back up C--I think even Nolan would accept that. But Amida has put in 2 years of hard work here---he personally is responsible for us beating St Joseph which was the main conduit for us winning a chip. Hes doubled his freshmen output--hes EARNED the starting C spot here at Uconn for the next 2 years if he stays. I would not recruit over him not 1/1000 chance. If Stone can play 4 man then thats fine. I'm a little surprised at the lack of loyalty. Loyalty is a foundational basis of life. Id rather go down losing with Amida at C than winning by recruiting over his head.

Alright Mr. Loyal, Terrence Samuel is also responsible for our magical run last year and he earned the first guard off the bench so we shouldn't recruit a shooting guard with a good handle to get in front of him? If someone plays better than you then as a player you help the team in whatever capacity it needs fill in, starter, whatever. Not recruiting over anyone, but get the best players you can and let the chips fall. I like that KO is loyal but hope it's not to a fault.

 

[8893]

This is all irrelevant because Stone ain't coming, but the notion that we don't recruit over players is nonsense. Go back to KEA at least. Ricky said JC sat him down and told him that Khalid was coming in and was going to start, which meant either Ricky or Rash would be relegated to the bench. Ricky's response: "Sorry, Rash." And Rash was a great role player for that team.

Look at the Born to Lead special on JC and watch Ben Gordon's comments. He laughed with a steely look in his eye while describing the dynamic whereby JC would bring in a guy for your exact position the following season, sending the clear message that you needed to earn the spot every year or risk someone coming and taking it from you.

Hell, how many times did he do that KO? Taliek? And they became better players for it.

 

[johnhuskies95]

I'm pretty sure I read somewhere that the Oklahoma State coaches visited him recently. Maybe they've moved to third in line ahead of UConn or maybe there's a ways to go in this one.

 

[Silk31]

Article posted on ESPN.com this morning. Insider's article. Nothing really new anyway.

A closer look at Diamond Stone

Team that needs him most: UConn

During the Jim Calhoun era, the Huskies were built on having a stable of quality big men who could score around the rim, rebound -- and of course, block shots. That hasn’t been the case lately though, as UConn has been carried by the Kemba Walkers and Shabazz Napiers of the world, while using more of a stretch-4 mismatch as opposed to two classic bigs. While that might be a byproduct of the direction of the game, the Huskies getting Stone for next season would enable Kevin Ollie to put two contrasting yet effective bigs on the court at the same time. Amida Brimah is one of the best defensive players in the country, while Stone’s offensive skill set would complement Brimah's perfectly. Stone can score around the basket, but is also capable of stepping out and knocking down 14-17 footers or passing out of the high post. Moreover, with Ryan Boatright leaving after this season, UConn’s run of dominant and dynamic point guards might be coming to a close. Getting Stone would mean the Huskies could go inside-out in 2015-16.

How many true back to basket big man have we had?...how many real offensive threats outside of Okafor?...our last two titles came with a frontcourt of Oriakhi, Okwandu, Roscoe Smith and Brimah, Nolan...so not sure what this means. Brimah lead the nation in FG percentage and certainly can score around the rim, that's about all he can do on offense. He was 3rd in the nation in blocks but his rebounding leaves much to be desired (an extreme understatement)....any offense we get from our bigs is a plus - we have always generated most of our offense from the back court on a consistent basis.

Don't get me wrong, Stone would be a welcomed addition but it's not happening at this rate and our tournament hopes do not hinge on whether he comes here or not. They would certainly improve our chances but it's not the be all end all. Adams, Purvis and Hamilton hold the keys to how good we will be next year. If Brimah chooses to progress in an off season where he isn't nursing a shoulder injury then we will be even better off

 

[1999.2004.2011]

Does anybody know when signing day is for this class? Honest question - don't really follow recruiting all that much

 

[pnow15]

To go away?

I never beg. They beg me.

 

[boog204]

That's cold. Scrappy is the most optimistic poster in fantasy land. He is the only poster that brings levity after a loss, and if you happen to indulge in his thinking for a minute, gives you hope for the next game/season and all of our players.

He's not dumb, just a the polar opposite of the complaining batch of posters we have, particularly during a bad season.

Trust me we needed him this year, or at least I did.

Post On Scrappy! My Man!

And just like that, you are now a lottery pick in his mock draft. Well done, sir!

 

[MattMang23]

To go away?

Can't win em all