The Official 2026 New York Jets Thread

[HuskyHawk]

Or maybe run-first quarterbacks actually stink?

Look at the final 4 this year - Stafford, Maye, Darnold and Nix. Peyton and Eli, Brady, Brees, Matt Ryan, Goff, Stafford, Rivers, Rodgers, etc, etc. I hate the run-first QB. They simply don't allow the play to progress. That's why, I'm convinced, Lamar Jackson will never win a Super Bowl. To some extent, Josh Allen kind of falls in that bucket too, though not nearly as guilty of it all the time, but they rely too much on his legs in the end.

I agree with you on guys who tend to run prematurely. Lamar is a key example. They built an offense for him, but it is limited. Drake Maye is faster than Josh Allen by the way and ran a lot in college and as a rookie. But they have been coaching him to extend plays. Remains to be see whether Daniels can learn to move to throw rather than taking off. Nix has wheels too, so running is good, if you can learn when to do it. Rodgers and Mahomes are good examples, they do run, but try to just extend plays most of the time.

For that particular class something more was going on. Even Lawrence hasn't been what was expected.

 

[ShakyTheMohel]

Or maybe run-first quarterbacks actually stink?

Look at the final 4 this year - Stafford, Maye, Darnold and Nix. Peyton and Eli, Brady, Brees, Matt Ryan, Goff, Stafford, Rivers, Rodgers, etc, etc. I hate the run-first QB. They simply don't allow the play to progress. That's why, I'm convinced, Lamar Jackson will never win a Super Bowl. To some extent, Josh Allen kind of falls in that bucket too, though not nearly as guilty of it all the time, but they rely too much on his legs in the end.

I agree with this and I will add injury is a big issue also with running QBs.

The Zach Wilson QB class should be studied. I do think like Hawk said, Covid was a big part of it. I think with Zach specifically was the product of playing poor competition and having a very good (and old) offensive line. Plus…there was a reason the guy wasn’t originally elected captain by his team. There was something missing mentally.

Lance was always a bit of a reach. Lawrence had one knock against him..people questioned his commitment to football. I think Lawrence is close to reaching what people thought he would be but early coaching like Meyer stunted his growth. he will never be Andrew Luck like he was originally compared to.

 

[Husky25]

Fields has flopped at 3 different stops and, I know the KC staff is a far better judge of talent than The Deepster is, but man I don't know what they see in him. If he actually turns out to be a productive NFL QB there, I'll really question the Jets ability to develop anyone.

The thinking is probably that Fields is a similar style QB to Mahommes. The coaching staff does not have to appreciably change the offense if their golden boy goes down.

 

[Deepster]

The thinking is probably that Fields is a similar style QB to Mahommes. The coaching staff does not have to appreciably change the offense if their golden boy goes down.

LOL. You may be the first person to compare Fields to Mahomes.