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ShakyTheMohel

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I guess it’s time for a new thread.

I don’t know what to think of the new Jets regime. They hire a first time GM and first time head coach and then hire experiened assistants to help the inexperienced head coach and GM.

I guess that makes sense….but it would be nice if they had some real experience in one of those positions.

Not sure what all these changes mean for Rodgers…but it’s hard to imagine their first time OC with their first time HC and first time GM want to deal with his baggage.

www.espn.com

Former Vikings GM Rick Spielman joining Jets' front office

Former Vikings general manager Rick Spielman, who assisted the Jets in their searches for a GM and head coach, is joining the franchise as a senior adviser.
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Jay Glazer reporting the Jets have told Rodgers they plan to move on from him.

I hope it’s just quick and cut and dry. Let’s do it and look forward.
 
Cimini reporting the same.

I agree…new staff…time fo move on. Obviously, the big question is what next for the qb position? I am ok with Taylor for one year if they want to draft a qb in the second or third round.

www.espn.com

Sources: Aaron Rodgers unlikely to return to Jets in 2025

The Jets-Aaron Rodgers marriage is not expected to continue after two disappointing seasons, sources told ESPN's Adam Schefter.
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ShakyTheMohel said:
Cimini reporting the same.

I agree…new staff…time fo move on. Obviously, the big question is what next for the qb position? I am ok with Taylor for one year if they want to draft a qb in the second or third round.

www.espn.com

Sources: Aaron Rodgers unlikely to return to Jets in 2025

The Jets-Aaron Rodgers marriage is not expected to continue after two disappointing seasons, sources told ESPN's Adam Schefter.
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So I'm curious what Jets fans want to happen.
  • Darnold 2.0?
  • Fields?
  • Draft Jaxson Dart? (probably Rd 1) or Milroe? (Rd 2)
  • Try to move up for Sanders or Ward?
  • Dalton? Flacco and a rookie who won't play?
 
HuskyHawk said:
So I'm curious what Jets fans want to happen.
  • Darnold 2.0?
  • Fields?
  • Draft Jaxson Dart? (probably Rd 1) or Milroe? (Rd 2)
  • Try to move up for Sanders or Ward?
  • Dalton? Flacco and a rookie who won't play?
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  • no on Darnold…plus I can’t see him wanting to come back to NY
  • Fields…maybe
  • Draft a qb in round 2 or 3..yes. Not sure who yet.
  • No on move up. They aren’t good enough to give up picks
  • No on Dalton or Flacco.

I think they might be interested in Cousins, Carr or Fields…plus draft a QB.

So…sign experienced qb..Taylor as backup….Travis or drafted qb.

But..this can all change as we approach FA and the draft.
 
  • Darnold 2.0? -- No way. Let the poor guy move on. Remember, he saw "ghosts" as a Jet.
  • Fields? -- The most intriguing option for me. I don't feel like he's much different from some of the other Caleb Williams or Bryce Young type prospects. Could he have a Mayfield type later bloom?
  • Draft Jaxson Dart? (probably Rd 1) or Milroe? (Rd 2) - Try to move up for Sanders or Ward? -- There is no one I want from this year's draft.
  • Dalton? Flacco and a rookie who won't play? -- I haven't heard either of those names. I have heard Carr or recently Cousins. Ugh. Hard to get excited about either of those. I've also heard Russ Wilson here or there. I could live with him.
I'd try Fields out.
I'd live with Carr, Cousins or Wilson for a year.

The truth is, they're not sniffing the playoffs for at least 2 more years. That's the worst thing about being a Jets fan. This whole lather-rinse-repeat process.
 
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ShakyTheMohel said:
I think they might be interested in Cousins, Carr or Fields…plus draft a QB.

So…sign experienced qb..Taylor as backup….Travis or drafted qb.

But..this can all change as we approach FA and the draft.
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Deepster said:
I'd try Fields out.
I'd live with Carr, Cousins or Wilson for a year.

The truth is, they're not sniffing the playoffs for at least 2 more years. That's the worst thing about being a Jets fan. This whole lather-rinse-repeat process.
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Have to trade for Cousins or Carr, and the case of Cousins, take a pretty big cap hit.

Fields is the upside move. Not sure who Pittsburgh will try to re-sign between him and Wilson, I assume Wilson.
 
Tanner Engstrand has not called plays in the NFL, so a veteran could be a good call. OTOH, both Carr and Cousins (particularly) are paycheck players. They put up the stats, but won't consistently win games on their own. Plus, with what they will command, coupled with Rodgers' dead money, the Jets will also presumably be devoting about 1/3 of their cap to the QB room and for what? A few more wins on paper, but no real improvement?

Depending on what the Giants do at #3, they may have to jump back into the 1st round to get Jaxson Dart.
 
Husky25 said:
Tanner Engstrand has not called plays in the NFL, so a veteran could be a good call. OTOH, both Carr and Cousins (particularly) are paycheck players. They put up the stats, but won't consistently win games on their own. Plus, with what they will command, coupled with Rodgers' dead money, the Jets will also presumably be devoting about 1/3 of their cap to the QB room and for what? A few more wins on paper, but no real improvement?

Depending on what the Giants do at #3, they may have to jump back into the 1st round to get Jaxson Dart.
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Jaxson Dart? God help me.
 
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Husky25 said:
Tanner Engstrand has not called plays in the NFL, so a veteran could be a good call. OTOH, both Carr and Cousins (particularly) are paycheck players. They put up the stats, but won't consistently win games on their own. Plus, with what they will command, coupled with Rodgers' dead money, the Jets will also presumably be devoting about 1/3 of their cap to the QB room and for what? A few more wins on paper, but no real improvement?

Depending on what the Giants do at #3, they may have to jump back into the 1st round to get Jaxson Dart.
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I think they do both….draft a qb…and sign a vet. But…I doubt they trade up for anyone…the QBs just aren’t that good this year.
 
ShakyTheMohel said:
I think they do both….draft a qb…and sign a vet. But…I doubt they trade up for anyone…the QBs just aren’t that good this year.
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You know who might be good for them is Marcus Mariota.

I would hate to see him leave Washington because of the mentoring influence he has with Daniels, and the way Daniels plays they need a competent back up. He likes Kingsbury's offense and has expressed interest in staying. Washington wants to keep him too so we'll where the money shakes out.

He was only signed for a year, making $6M and is an unrestricted free agent.
 
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Not a bad idea, if Washington is willing to let him go. If I were them, with Daniels under a rookie deal, I'd keep him around as insurance.

However, when he came out of college, the Jets had the #6 pick and there was a TON of talk about them moving up to take him. He also said, at the time, he would love to play in NY.
 
I like the idea of another vet to compete with Taylor while they develop a rookie. Everyone says someone like MIlroe needs at least a year on the bench. And we know Taylor needs an experienced backup due to his injury history.

Reports are that Garrett Wilson likes Taylor…and right now..keeping Wilson happy is a good thing.

Mariota…Cousins…Carr…or even Winston aren’t awful options.

It will be interesting to see what happens with Travis. It sounds like he suffered a setback with his rehab and now you have to wonder it he will get a chance with the Jets. Especially considering this regime didn’t draft him.
 
And 13 seconds after Rodgers is gone, they toss Nate Hackett into the dumpster out back.
 
HuskyHawk said:
I don't like your team and I'm more positive than you.
  • Got, at worst, the 3rd best HC on the market. Solid guy who should restore the defense
  • Two really good RBs
  • Wilson and Adams who you can probably trade for something.
  • Fashanu probably makes a leap at LT
  • Rogers being out of the room improves the attitudes and you can get rid of his guys like Lazard.
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No offense, but a) you're not that realistic sometimes and b) you're not a Jets fan.

Put yourself in my shoes. Since 2000....

2000 – New Coach in Al Groh. 1 season. 9-7. Testeverde at QB.
2001-2005 – New Coach in Herm Edwards. 39-41. 2 years of Vinny, 3 years of Pennington and 1 year of Brooks Bollinger.
2006-2008 – New Coach in Eric Mangini. 23-25. 2 years Pennington, 1 year of Favre.
2009-2014 – New Coach in Rex Ryan. 46-50. 4 years of Sanchez, 2 years of Geno Smith.
2015-2018 – New Coach in Todd Bowles. 24-40. A mix of Fitzgerald, McCown and rookie Darnold.
2019-2020 – New Coach in Adam Gase. 23-25. He ruined poor Sam Darnold.
2021-2024 – New Coach in Robert Saleh. 20-36. Zach Wilson and one year+3 snaps of Rodgers.

24 seasons for a combined 184/224 (.451). Every coach is a former DC other than Gase. A litany of has been QB's, backups or high draft pick failures. 14 seasons without a playoff appearance.

Why should I be excited about Glenn, no QB, no good QB's in the Draft or FA and a genius owner?
 
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Deepster said:
No offense, but a) you're not that realistic sometimes and b) you're not a Jets fan.

Put yourself in my shoes. Since 2000....

2000 – New Coach in Al Groh. 1 season. 9-7. Testeverde at QB.
2001-2005 – New Coach in Herm Edwards. 39-41. 2 years of Vinny, 3 years of Pennington and 1 year of Brooks Bollinger.
2006-2008 – New Coach in Eric Mangini. 23-25. 2 years Pennington, 1 year of Favre.
2009-2014 – New Coach in Rex Ryan. 46-50. 4 years of Sanchez, 2 years of Geno Smith.
2015-2018 – New Coach in Todd Bowles. 24-40. A mix of Fitzgerald, McCown and rookie Darnold.
2019-2020 – New Coach in Adam Gase. 23-25. He ruined poor Sam Darnold.
2021-2024 – New Coach in Robert Saleh. 20-36. Zach Wilson and one year+3 snaps of Rodgers.

24 seasons for a combined 184/224 (.451). Every coach is a former DC other than Gase. A litany of has been QB's, backups or high draft pick failures. 14 seasons without a playoff appearance.

Why should I be excited about Glenn, no QB, no good QB's in the Draft or FA and a genius owner?
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Clean slate, but you are not incorrect. The "genius owner" is a biggest negative going against the franchise.
 
Deepster said:
No offense, but a) you're not that realistic sometimes and b) you're not a Jets fan.

Put yourself in my shoes. Since 2000....

2000 – New Coach in Al Groh. 1 season. 9-7. Testeverde at QB.
2001-2005 – New Coach in Herm Edwards. 39-41. 2 years of Vinny, 3 years of Pennington and 1 year of Brooks Bollinger.
2006-2008 – New Coach in Eric Mangini. 23-25. 2 years Pennington, 1 year of Favre.
2009-2014 – New Coach in Rex Ryan. 46-50. 4 years of Sanchez, 2 years of Geno Smith.
2015-2018 – New Coach in Todd Bowles. 24-40. A mix of Fitzgerald, McCown and rookie Darnold.
2019-2020 – New Coach in Adam Gase. 23-25. He ruined poor Sam Darnold.
2021-2024 – New Coach in Robert Saleh. 20-36. Zach Wilson and one year+3 snaps of Rodgers.

24 seasons for a combined 184/224 (.451). Every coach is a former DC other than Gase. A litany of has been QB's, backups or high draft pick failures. 14 seasons without a playoff appearance.

Why should I be excited about Glenn, no QB, no good QB's in the Draft or FA and a genius owner?
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I feel your pain. Sadly…looking back, I was generally optimistic entering each of those eras. Only to be disappointed.

I guess that’s part of being a fan…ignoring history and remaining optimistic.
 
Husky25 said:
Clean slate, but you are not incorrect. The "genius owner" is a biggest negative going against the franchise.
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See, you don't get it.

It's not a clean slate. It's the same slate it's been every 3-5 years for a quarter century. Nothing's different.
 
ShakyTheMohel said:
I feel your pain. Sadly…looking back, I was generally optimistic entering each of those eras. Only to be disappointed.

I guess that’s part of being a fan…ignoring history and remaining optimistic.
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It could be worse. I have been a Jet fan since attending opening night at Shea against Denver in 1964.
 
The latest Kiper mock has Sanders dropping down to the Jets. I find that hard to believe. Every year as we get closer to the draft, QBs move higher and higher up the draft board. I think he will be gone…but to be honest, I am not sure he is the answer anyway.

Maybe it’s because I have PTSD from Rodgers, but I just don’t want a celebrity QB. I know that Glenn is a Parcells disciple and Parcells also was not a fan of QBs who were bigger than the team.

This may be an unfair judgement on Sanders…but because of his father, there will be additional pressure and attention on his development. But on the other hand..beggars can’t be choosers.
 
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Rodgers thinks he is still the MVP version of himself from 3 years ago and thinks he can set conditions for a team to have the honor of him playing for them.

Good on the Jets for cutting him loose.
 
ShakyTheMohel said:
The latest Kiper mock has Sanders dropping down to the Jets. I find that hard to believe. Every year as we get closer to the draft, QBs move higher and higher up the draft board. I think he will be gone…but to be honest, I am not sure he is the answer anyway.

Maybe it’s because I have PTSD from Rodgers, but I just don’t want a celebrity QB. I know that Glenn is a Parcells disciple and Parcells also was not a fan of QBs who were bigger than the team.

This may be an unfair judgement on Sanders…but because of his father, there will be additional pressure and attention on his development. But on the other hand..beggars can’t be choosers.
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I am not sure I could watch Sanders as our qb. That might be the end of me. He’s the epitome of a guy who is down 24-0, throws a td and struts around like a peacock at his own personal greatness. Cam Newton Lite.
 
Deepster said:
I am not sure I could watch Sanders as our qb. That might be the end of me. He’s the epitome of a guy who is down 24-0, throws a td and struts around like a peacock at his own personal greatness. Cam Newton Lite.
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I have a feeling he will be suiting up in MetLife. Just not in green. Count your blessings. Dart will probably be better.
 
HuskyHawk said:
I have a feeling he will be suiting up in MetLife. Just not in green. Count your blessings. Dart will probably be better.
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I agree…i don’t see how he drops to 7.

The knock on Dart is that he might be a system qb who benefitted from playing for Kiffin. But I like his personality and aggressiveness.
 
HuskyHawk said:
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This was expected. The only way he could stay would be if he agreed to a restructured contract. Hopefully Lazard is next.

I liked Adams but I think the Jets are trying to change their culture and Wilson is their future.

But…this is a mostly financial decision.
 
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